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Iflyfish
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The FBI is a good option. Vin and Lic number are easily accessable and there is a data base for that. If this is an Oregon car then one can presume
American citizens were driving it and the FBI would be interested in that.
If one knows where the vehicle is parked it would not be difficult to grab a quick look at the plates.
I don't think you can bring an Oregon rental into Mexico?? This does not sound good. I think this is important to look further into. Kidnapping comes
to mind.
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Bajahowodd
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To amplify on that, very few rental companies will rent to folks heading into Mexico. my understanding is that those outlets are mainly in the San
Diego border area. While it is not inconceivable that a car owned by a major concern could have ended up in San Diego, it is quite unlikely. As
someone earlier posited, the McStays certainly make for a great story for an aspiring novelist.
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AASelf
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It's a stretch, but there is a 7 year old boy missing from Oregon for several days now, maybe a week. Worth mentioning this car to the Oregon police
looking for him maybe. You never know...
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AASelf
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This is the tip line #: Multnomah County Sheriff
Tip-line
503-261-2847. Shari or anyone with info may want to call it. You never know. Here's the article. Long shot, but hey. Here's a link to the article.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37547980/
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BajaBlanca
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no good news ? nada ????
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BajaNomad
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| Quote: | Originally posted by AASelf
It's a stretch, but there is a 7 year old boy missing from Oregon for several days now, maybe a week. Worth mentioning this car to the Oregon police
looking for him maybe. You never know... |
He's been missing since Friday morning I believe. Received an
email on this today - apparently the boy is classmates with a business associate's son at Skyline School.
Attaching the flyer from the email I received.
Shari indicated the car was found a few days ago - looking like it'd been abandoned for a couple of weeks.
Timing doesn't look right - but you never know.
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Bob H
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
With the placa and VIN, the vehicle can be traced to origen in seconds. If the police don't feel inclined to use that rudamentary investigation
procedure, it may be because they want the car. |
Shari, I think Dennis is 'right on' here. This vehicle can be traced.
[Edited on 6-9-2010 by BajaNomad]
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wilderone
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The local policia are grossly negligent in not following up on a proper investigation, given the circumstances and evidence. If this car ends up in
the jefe's garage, I'm telling.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
With the placa and VIN, the vehicle can be traced to origen in seconds. If the police don't feel inclined to use that rudamentary investigation
procedure, it may be because they want the car. |
| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
I didnt want to mention that....but...ummm.....well....you know...which is why I thought it might be a good idea to check in here.
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You think that might be the case??
John and I sure hope the missing people are found alive and well.
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BajaBruno
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Here's my theory. Mom and children rented a car and went to visit relatives in San Diego. A Mexican national stole the car in San Diego just after
mom bought the chicken. The thief (thieves) drove the car towards home in Baja until it ran out of gas or had some other mechanical problem and then
abandoned it. That seems realistic and avoids all the nefarious options.
Now, as for the police investigation, I think it is highly unlikley that the rural police in Baja have the hotline number to the FBI, which wouldn't
be the appropriate agency to call anyway. They may try to call San Diego PD as the closest US police agency that could run a registration check, but
it is a misdemeanor to give out registration information without a legitimate police purpose.
How would that dispatcher at SD PD know she was talking to a real police officer in Mexico who had a legimate police purpose for asking for that
infomation? She wouldn't, so it's likely she would refuse to give the Mexican officer the information.
This is all just not as easy as we would like to think it is, under the circumstances of international borders and mistrust between agencies. No
doubt they will figure it out eventually, but it will take time and coordination between the right people who have established a relationship with
others across the border.
Christopher Bruno, Elk Grove, CA.
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shari
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the car was way off any main road and was hidden in an arroyo.
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaBruno
Now, as for the police investigation, I think it is highly unlikley that the rural police in Baja have the hotline number to the FBI, which wouldn't
be the appropriate agency to call anyway. They may try to call San Diego PD as the closest US police agency that could run a registration check, but
it is a misdemeanor to give out registration information without a legitimate police purpose.
How would that dispatcher at SD PD know she was talking to a real police officer in Mexico who had a legimate police purpose for asking for that
infomation? She wouldn't, so it's likely she would refuse to give the Mexican officer the information.
This is all just not as easy as we would like to think it is, under the circumstances of international borders and mistrust between agencies. No
doubt they will figure it out eventually, but it will take time and coordination between the right people who have established a relationship with
others across the border. |
The Mexican Federal Police and the Baja State Police have access to US DMV info through liaison agreements that are already in place. In addition, the
San Diego Police have an International Liaison Unit (619) 531-2518 that works with their Mexican counterparts on a daily basis
There are several scenarios that could be in play here, and without additional information it would be foolish to speculate.
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dtbushpilot
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I would go along with bajabruno's theory but the ending would be that the thief was near home (or his ultimate destination), ditched the car and
caught a ride the rest of the way to his destination......dt
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaBruno
Now, as for the police investigation, I think it is highly unlikley that the rural police in Baja have the hotline number to the FBI, which wouldn't
be the appropriate agency to call anyway. They may try to call San Diego PD as the closest US police agency that could run a registration check, but
it is a misdemeanor to give out registration information without a legitimate police purpose.
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Local police don't handle robbery or missing persons. They hand it over to the State Police. They have access to everything.
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wessongroup
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without "speculation" where would we be ..... should have been some kind of award .. for the information provided on KFC .. 
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
without "speculation" where would we be ..... should have been some kind of award .. for the information provided on KFC ..
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And other than speculation and innuendos, I wonder if anyone really knows what the local police have done about this car???
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wessongroup
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Perhaps Shari could help with your question...
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
And other than speculation and innuendos, I wonder if anyone really knows what the local police have done about this car??? |
I'll bet they've put it in a safe place and had it washed of all those greasy fingerprints.
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wessongroup
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
And other than speculation and innuendos, I wonder if anyone really knows what the local police have done about this car??? |
I'll bet they've put it in a safe place and had it washed of all those greasy fingerprints. |
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comitan
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bajabruno's Theory won't hold water, Coming through the border with a rental car and being Mexican he would be sent to secondary where they would
check the registration of the vehicle, also they check passports. Just went through the process.
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