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JESSE
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Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
a few RECENT examples for the newbie and Jessy, seasoned nomad:::
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LA Times, July 23, 2010
Federal authorities announced a wide-ranging criminal complaint Friday against top leaders of a Tijuana-based drug cartel that ran much of its
operations from the San Diego area, allegedly ordering murders, kidnappings and the torture of rival traffickers in Mexico.
The racketeering conspiracy case charges 43 people, among them high-ranking lieutenants, Mexican police officers and a top official in the Baja
California attorney general's office who allegedly passed along information obtained from U.S. law enforcement sources to cartel operatives.
The organized crime group, an offshoot of the Arellano Felix drug cartel, moved some operations to San Diego in recent years, seeking a safe haven
from gang wars and law enforcement crackdowns south of the border, said Laura Duffy, the U.S. attorney in San Diego.
Through the use of undercover agents and surveillance, authorities prevented most of the violence in San Diego County, including six attempted murders
and an attempted kidnapping, Duffy said. In Mexico, cartel members kidnapped and killed several people, and tried to shift responsibility to rival
gangs through corrupt Mexican law enforcement.
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Mexico arrests dozens of current, former cops
56 state, municipal officers charged with collaborating with organized crime
UNION-TRIBUNE
July 29, 2010
TIJUANA — Baja California’s largest law-enforcement shake-up in recent years was carried out Thursday, when Mexican soldiers detained 62 current and
former state and municipal police officers suspected of collaborating with drug traffickers.
The arrests, ordered by a federal judge, came on the heels of investigations that lasted two years, said the state’s attorney general, Rommel Moreno
Manjarrez. The detained officers will face charges of drug trafficking and organized crime; Moreno didn’t detail their activities or name any
drug-smuggling group.
He announced the arrests at a military air base in Tijuana where many of the suspects had been taken after being summoned to a training course at the
Baja California police academy in nearby Tecate.
The suspects were 52 active-duty officers — 36 Tijuana municipal police and 16 state ministerial agents — as well as 10 former municipal officers.
Some in the group wore their uniforms, but most were in plainclothes.
[Edited on 8-1-2010 by mtgoat666] |
And? this has happened many times in the past decade, its not an indicator for anything.
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Gypsy Jan
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Sliding This In
The Mexican "Black Ops" (my words, not theirs) took out fifteen targets during MexiCali Days in Rosarito.
I am told that the Baja Times mentioned five.
[Edited on 8-2-2010 by Gypsy Jan]
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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SWMSMB
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Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
a few RECENT examples for the newbie and Jessy, seasoned nomad:::
[Edited on 8-1-2010 by mtgoat666] |
Who are you calling 'newbie'? Somebody (amongst the others on this thread) that just thoroughly dispatched of you? Doesn't make you look better,
does it?
This newbie just logged 4000+ miles twice down Baja over the past two months.
As for your articles, they are again vague generalities and one of them is actually about the 'narco war' spilling over to the US. By your logic,
then, we should be cowering over here? More rhetoric, no substance.
Goat is unwittingly touching on perhaps a more profound issue: Where did we go in this country where some pseudo facts could pass muster? It's all
so circular. You have nothing, thus you have no credibility. What are you without credibility?
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mtgoat666
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Quote: | Originally posted by SWMSMB
Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
a few RECENT examples for the newbie and Jessy, seasoned nomad:::
[Edited on 8-1-2010 by mtgoat666] |
Who are you calling 'newbie'? Somebody (amongst the others on this thread) that just thoroughly dispatched of you? Doesn't make you look better,
does it?
This newbie just logged 4000+ miles twice down Baja over the past two months.
As for your articles, they are again vague generalities and one of them is actually about the 'narco war' spilling over to the US. By your logic,
then, we should be cowering over here? More rhetoric, no substance.
Goat is unwittingly touching on perhaps a more profound issue: Where did we go in this country where some pseudo facts could pass muster? It's all
so circular. You have nothing, thus you have no credibility. What are you without credibility? |
"swmsmb?" i understand the single white male bisexual parts or acronym, but what is need for send "s" and second "m?"
for a newbie you are quite thin skinned, but stick around and your hide will toughen up!
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DENNIS
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Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
but stick around and your hide will toughen up! |
OH, yeah. Have to agree wicha, Goat. It's not as simple as it seems from the early glance.
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DENNIS
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Quote: | Originally posted by SWMSMB
Goat is unwittingly touching on perhaps a more profound issue: Where did we go in this country where some pseudo facts could pass muster? It's all
so circular. You have nothing, thus you have no credibility. What are you without credibility? |
Too vague, convoluted and WTF are you talking about? You need clear points with which to mount an attack.
Try again.
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DENNIS
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Quote: | Originally posted by SWMSMB
Who are you calling 'newbie'? Somebody (amongst the others on this thread) that just thoroughly dispatched of you? Doesn't make you look better,
does it?
This newbie just logged 4000+ miles twice down Baja over the past two months.
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Maybe you should take a little time to unpack and do your laundry before you come on here throwing your uppity crap at long-time Nomads, Noob.
Shut the EF up and respect your elders here if you hope to have a future with us. We don't care when or where you've been if you can't tell us
nicely.
[Edited on 8-2-2010 by DENNIS]
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Barry A.
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I'll second that, Dennis.
Barry
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SWMSMB
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Folks,
At the risk of cluttering the thread more than I already have, I would like to apologize. I am a longtime lurker and am passionate about the subject
but I am still a newbie and overstepped myself and I lost sight of that. I realize that and love what everyone before has built here and I have
benefited from. Sorry to be uppity, I was dead wrong and I had no right to be disrespectful to anyone. My hat is in hand.
Respectfully and all the best-
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Barry A.
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Quote: | Originally posted by SWMSMB
Folks,
At the risk of cluttering the thread more than I already have, I would like to apologize. I am a longtime lurker and am passionate about the subject
but I am still a newbie and overstepped myself and I lost sight of that. I realize that and love what everyone before has built here and I have
benefited from. Sorry to be uppity, I was dead wrong and I had no right to be disrespectful to anyone. My hat is in hand.
Respectfully and all the best- |
Well, for me, that is a great second 'start'. You can put your head back on your shoulders now, and when ready to tell us about your southern
adventures I am sure there will be many on this board that will listen and ask questions. Most of us are looking for info & comradre, not
fights.
Barry
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Cochi
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How's the fishing?
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Woooosh
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Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
a few RECENT examples for the newbie and Jessy, seasoned nomad:::
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LA Times, July 23, 2010
Federal authorities announced a wide-ranging criminal complaint Friday against top leaders of a Tijuana-based drug cartel that ran much of its
operations from the San Diego area, allegedly ordering murders, kidnappings and the torture of rival traffickers in Mexico.
The racketeering conspiracy case charges 43 people, among them high-ranking lieutenants, Mexican police officers and a top official in the Baja
California attorney general's office who allegedly passed along information obtained from U.S. law enforcement sources to cartel operatives.
The organized crime group, an offshoot of the Arellano Felix drug cartel, moved some operations to San Diego in recent years, seeking a safe haven
from gang wars and law enforcement crackdowns south of the border, said Laura Duffy, the U.S. attorney in San Diego.
Through the use of undercover agents and surveillance, authorities prevented most of the violence in San Diego County, including six attempted murders
and an attempted kidnapping, Duffy said. In Mexico, cartel members kidnapped and killed several people, and tried to shift responsibility to rival
gangs through corrupt Mexican law enforcement.
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Mexico arrests dozens of current, former cops
56 state, municipal officers charged with collaborating with organized crime
UNION-TRIBUNE
July 29, 2010
TIJUANA — Baja California’s largest law-enforcement shake-up in recent years was carried out Thursday, when Mexican soldiers detained 62 current and
former state and municipal police officers suspected of collaborating with drug traffickers.
The arrests, ordered by a federal judge, came on the heels of investigations that lasted two years, said the state’s attorney general, Rommel Moreno
Manjarrez. The detained officers will face charges of drug trafficking and organized crime; Moreno didn’t detail their activities or name any
drug-smuggling group.
He announced the arrests at a military air base in Tijuana where many of the suspects had been taken after being summoned to a training course at the
Baja California police academy in nearby Tecate.
The suspects were 52 active-duty officers — 36 Tijuana municipal police and 16 state ministerial agents — as well as 10 former municipal officers.
Some in the group wore their uniforms, but most were in plainclothes.
[Edited on 8-1-2010 by mtgoat666] |
And? this has happened many times in the past decade, its not an indicator for anything. |
All these guys were caught because "The Crutches" is singing like a bird since his capture. I don't like the source, but I don't doubt the
information. The families of the accused can protest and cry- but it's going to take a while to clear their name once it has been in the crutches
phone directory...
http://www.afntijuana.info/afn/?p=9455
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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mtgoat666
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Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
a few RECENT examples for the newbie and Jessy, seasoned nomad:::
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LA Times, July 23, 2010
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Mexico arrests dozens of current, former cops
56 state, municipal officers charged with collaborating with organized crime
UNION-TRIBUNE
July 29, 2010
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And? this has happened many times in the past decade, its not an indicator for anything. |
"has happened many times in past decade"
"it's not an indicator of anything"
no problems in TJ! just business as usual!
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castaway$
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FISHING guys!!!!! This is the fishing page
Live Indubiously!
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DENNIS
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Quote: | Originally posted by castaway$
FISHING guys!!!!! This is the fishing page |
Oh yeah....so it is. How did this happen?
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toneart
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Trolling
Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote: | Originally posted by castaway$
FISHING guys!!!!! This is the fishing page |
Oh yeah....so it is. How did this happen? |
is a valid form of fishing
Oh well...the guy has apologized and should be given a clean lure box.
Edited to absolve blame:
The newby was actually lured into the mode of rudeness that so often prevails here. While he (or anyone) has the option of taking the higher road, he
fought back and probably expected support, given who the flamer is and his usual modus operandi.
I think he has entered with intelligence. While I don't necessarily agree with his opinion on journalism in general, he presented that opinion with
confidence. I think he will prove to be a welcome addition to our Nomad community.
Interesting how the pecking order is assumed here, as it is in most companies, neighborhoods and schoolyards.
[Edited on 8-2-2010 by toneart]
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Woooosh
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I clicked on the "pecking order" link above and nothing happened. Are you on that list somewhere ?
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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