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irenemm
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John M
thanks to TW for the directions I have never been there only up to the Observatory.
I just know from here Vicente Guerrero it is at least a 3 hour drive.
beautiful area
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Well that thing won't have any problems getting out of Mikes or anywhere else. Pole Line Road here he comes.
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Baja Lies...
| Quote: | Originally posted by TW
Well that thing won't have any problems getting out of Mikes or anywhere else. Pole Line Road here he comes. |
I'm just joking here. No, I didn't sell the Rubicon - it's a classic that I wouldn't part ways with. Just telling some "Baja Lies" to raise a few
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Hi John and all,
Sorry did'nt see the thread until this am. Well we just had a 4X4 club from TJ pass through yesterday on their way on up to the observatorio. They
came from Mikes with jeeps and landcruisers. They said there was only one sorta scary part where the road does a steep dip and turn where you are on
quite a lateral angle (like the passenger can easily touch the ground!) but nobody has rolled yet and at least 3 bigger cars tours have been through
this summer! Closer to our ranch the "road" more resembles a streambed (which it will remain cause I dont own a dozer) with lots of rocks and sand.
This tour was a great bunch we joked about getting the road fixed and they exclaimed no es nuestro divsersion! As for the road to coyote I've been
told you can almost get there but the end part just before the ranch is unpassable, this may have been fixed but I've not heard it confirmed. Our road
to the main road is passable in a corvette (with offroad tires ;> Stop by and
we can give you a little tour over a brew!
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This from Bajabrother who just went thru there:
Well here is the low down.
Both roads leading into Mikes are in great shape. As you leave Mikes to the s/w (to the right looking at mikes) up the hill parralell the San Rafeal
and climb out, the road is in desent shape and passable in a 4wd high ground clearence vehicle.
As you make the top and go over towards the simpson merge there is alot of exposed rock through there. As you drop down th False Corral turn off there
is a new right hand turn to enter false corral. Just past or s/o the old one. Open the gate go through and it is doable in a 4wd/prerunner. The old
turn to False Corral is well marked and blocked, do not enter with an arrow pointing to the new garita.
DO NOT, DO NOT go past this gate in ANY 4 wheel vehicle, period.
We did on bikes at night and it was a challenge. Very torn up from the rains and not really burned in yet from bike travel.
Only a Dozer or motos will get through there eventually.
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David K
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What/ where is this 'false corral'?
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I don't know. I'll have to ask him.
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Here is what Bajabrother had to say about the location.
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:24 PM, <bajabrother@gmail.com> wrote:
If you are reading SCORE race notes it my be confusing to you. If you have a Baja Almanac look at page 11 (old edition)
Maybe 1/2 mile s/o the Simpson merge heading south down the hill you will come to the oak tree grove and right or west turn to El Corral Falso. that
has now been blocked and 100 yards s/o that turn is the new gate.
Point is stay out of La Concepcion drainage, no bueno for cars only moto's
Los Encinos and La Concepcion are no bueno
[Edited on 9-28-2010 by TW]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by TW
Here is what Bajabrother had to say about the location.
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:24 PM, <bajabrother@gmail.com> wrote:
If you are reading SCORE race notes it my be confusing to you. If you have a Baja Almanac look at page 11 (old edition)
Maybe 1/2 mile s/o the Simpson merge heading south down the hill you will come to the oak tree grove and right or west turn to El Corral Falso. that
has now been blocked and 100 yards s/o that turn is the new gate.
Point is stay out of La Concepcion drainage, no bueno for cars only moto's
Los Encinos and La Concepcion are no bueno
[Edited on 9-28-2010 by TW] |
The 2003 (out of print) Baja Almanac Map 11, left half:
A close up of the are of discussion:
As we can see, El Corral Falso is the name of an arroyo.
It is 3.2 miles from Mike's Sky Rancho up to the Simpson Ranch road ...
and another 1.9 miles to the fork mentioned by 'bajabrother' where a west turn goes down Arroyo El Corral Falso (and on to El Coyote Ranch via the
north/ west road).
A south turn at that fork goes down to Arroyo Los Encinos, in 2.2 miles meets the road coming from Los Encinos and Astro Baja's B & B (the old
way) La Concepcion.
It is 4.5 more miles to reach the entrance road to El Coyote and south 4.7 miles to the Observatory paved road near Meling Ranch.
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Map with mileages along the route we took in 2005. Photos at http://vivabaja.com/905
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Ken Cooke
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Looks like a new Baja Grande route.
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Could be Ken... I did get my Tacoma through... so you Jeep boys might be able to, as well!
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The Baja 500 and 1000 races that did the full Mikes loop would run south out of Mikes to Bajastros turn off (some actually took it for a loop around
Santa Cruz, Valladares, El Sauzalito and back to El Coyote off road) then to El Coyote and around thru the El Corral Falso area to Simpsons turnoff.
In the 04 or 05 500 race they ran the loop backwards and went up Simpsons hill. Big bottleneck. The other bottleneck was at the hill about half way
between the two Los Encinos on the second map. It turned to silt and cars were stuck. The second bottleneck was the worse as several cars were stuck
all night and didn't get out until the race was over.
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Could be Ken... I did get my Tacoma through... so you Jeep boys might be able to, as well! |
My Ford Ranger made it back in 2002.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Could be Ken... I did get my Tacoma through... so you Jeep boys might be able to, as well! |
My Ford Ranger made it back in 2002. |
Being towed out on a trailer doesn't count Ken... 
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Could be Ken... I did get my Tacoma through... so you Jeep boys might be able to, as well! |
My Ford Ranger made it back in 2002. |
Being towed out on a trailer doesn't count Ken... |
That was in 2001 - The transmission was low on fluid and siezed up in the Vallecitos section of the Sierra San Pedro Martir park.
In 2002, I traveled with Andrew (r.i.p.) and wife Gretchen and the Rebel 4x4 Club. We did not see any sections that were as extreme as have been
described on-line or on video, but there are always routes to explore.
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I am just having fun with you amigo... I know you got rid of that truck not long after the 2001 trip...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
I am just having fun with you amigo... I know you got rid of that truck not long after the 2001 trip... |
Would you believe me if I told you the truck is now for sale 2 blocks away from my house at the Corvette Superstore car lot? 
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astrobaja
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I beg to differ about the route through to Concepcion being "no bueno"!
We had a Mexcan tour of jeeps and toyotas through just yesterday!! Word is the road to Coyote is unpassable right as one nears their ranch.
Actually we have had 3-4 Mexican car tours through in the last 2 months.
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We have been up to Mike's place at Rancho Concepcion a couple of times in the last month or so. 4wd is nice but most 2wd vehicles should make it as
long as long as you aren't in a hurry and have enough ground clearance.
Edited to add - most of the road in fact is in pretty good condition, just a few spots where you need to be careful maneuvering around some bad spots,
which is where you will need to watch your ground clearance.
[Edited on 10-3-2010 by BajaGringo]
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