Originally posted by Dave
Absent from this discussion is appreciation for the U.S. in doing the job for which Mexico is either unwilling or incapable.
I'm sure it was just an oversight.
This crap was confiscated in Arizona. Sure, it speaks well of our guys. But, that's exactly what they should be doing. Your post seems to imply that
the Mexicans should be in Arizona doing the work.
As for all those posting about gun control, the NRA has done a fine job in getting its absolutists message out there. Gun control is wide and deep. In
a modern society there must be certain sensible restrictions. That in no way equals banning gun ownership. It just means that a drunk carrying an AK
while shopping at Costco, is not such a good idea.
This is not about blaming anyone, i am not against citizens of the U.S. exercising their rights to bear arms. But .50 cal Barrets? Ak-47s? no ID? no
backround checks?
Just sounds ridiculous to me, and just as ridiculous, are those that want to create confusion as to the suppliers of weapons for the drug cartels.
Claiming the guns come from central america, asia, or where ever. The videos posted show how easy (and cheap) it is to buy high powered weapons of war
in the US.
I think any responsible and sensible person, shouldn't be concerned at all if the goverment creates laws simply controlling gun sales, so that joe x
or juan x can't go into one of these shows and buy guns for a private little war.
Yes, and the other problem is the straw man sales where citizens with clean records are paid to buy guns for criminals and smugglers. The current gun
control laws are ineffective.
The ATF - A federal police agency set-up to control alcohol, tobacco, and firearms. Which of the three have the least controls?
Originally posted by Bajahowodd
This crap was confiscated in Arizona. Sure, it speaks well of our guys. But, that's exactly what they should be doing. Your post seems to imply
that the Mexicans should be in Arizona doing the work.
The Mexicans should be doing their work at their border.
Had the U.S. authorities not intercepted these shipments I'm confident they would have found their way to the intended destination.
Here's a thought:
Since Mexico seems incapable of policing its borders why don't they simply buy up all these weapons? They could melt them down and make comals.
Originally posted by Bajahowodd
This crap was confiscated in Arizona. Sure, it speaks well of our guys. But, that's exactly what they should be doing. Your post seems to imply
that the Mexicans should be in Arizona doing the work.
The Mexicans should be doing their work at their border.
Had the U.S. authorities not intercepted these shipments I'm confident they would have found their way to the intended destination.
Here's a thought:
Since Mexico seems incapable of policing its borders why don't they simply buy up all these weapons? They could melt them down and make comals.
What makes you think Mexicans can stop guns, if the U.S. with far more resources, can't stop drugs?
Mexico isn't the USA, there the first amendment has no meaning, no significance, and I am not concerned with the corrupt politicos and cops. It's the
poor people that don't deserve the misery that it bought and paid for and then shipped to Mexico. People who pay money for drugs knowing that the
money is going to Mexico are precisely and exactly as -------- as religous zealots who send money to the Taliban. There is, no, difference. None.
Zero.
Legal marijuana sixty bucks and ounce, narco marijuana thirty bucks an ounce, now which would you suppose pot users in the USA are going to choose?
The USA as a while is pimping the drug cartels (Oh yes of course our financial institutions have safeguards that would pro-hibit drug dollars from
being rat-holed in the USA).
"Legal marijuana sixty bucks and ounce, narco marijuana thirty bucks an ounce, now which would you suppose pot users in the USA are going to choose?"
In which alternate universe is legal marijuana sixty bucks an ounce?
Or better yet, narco (crap) marijuana thirty bucks an ounce?
I live in the state that produces more and better marijuana than anywhere, and it still costs $10.00 dollars a gram. Period. And everybody is growing
it now. ??
"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
-Nikola Tesla
Originally posted by DavidE
Legal marijuana sixty bucks and ounce, narco marijuana thirty bucks an ounce, now which would you suppose pot users in the USA are going to choose?
you stomped any credibility with such a delusional statement.
it costs to produce da kind. even for the cartels.
next
Well I guess this puts to rest the NRA and gun nut counter claim that the US state department and ATF is wrong or simply lying when they say about 90
percent of guns originate in the US.
They claim that eTrace the only real method out there to trace guns only can trace a fraction of the guns using the serial number and so therefore it
means the weapons must be coming from other countries like China, North Korea, countries in South America and other places. ( no it doesn't they
haven't proved mass quantity of weapons are coming from those other countries)
The USA is so close, and it's so easy to buy guns and drive them down to Mexico.
The question becomes, "Why buy weapon from anywhere else then the US?"
Of course weapons also come from the Mexican military and a few other places that you can't buy in the US, but the vast majority of victims are killed
by bullets coming from assault weapons the same or similar to what you could buy in the US.
Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
Of course weapons also come from the Mexican military
This is another one of those misinformation "facts" planted by those that won't accept responsability. The Mexican military basically carries one type
of gun, the HK G3, not your average gun, not your average ammunition, it is long, heavy, expensive, and difficult to get ammunition. I have yet to see
a single drug shooting where the bad guys used a G3. Some claim the cartels buy some of the guns from the military, what guns? the military doesn't
carry Ak's, R-15's, or any of the tipical guns that cartels use. The Mexican military might lack many things, but they have very strict controls over
their weapons. This is something aknowledged in most serious military circles.
iN TODAYS Amarillo Globe Newspaper it was reported that there has been a 61,7 % increase in Concealed Weapon Permits in the State of Texas since Last
Year.
What does that say to you??
As long as there are Drugs coming into the States there will be Guns going into Mexico. It cannot be stopped unless the DOPERS stop using DOPE.
In Texas the increase in Concealed Permits are for a different reason. We seriousley beleive that one of these days there could be some "Shootin' and
we want to be prepared.
If you will go into Baja or the Mainland and find out some of the Cultural differences about "Cops getting Money form Speeder", come back and report
your findinds, I will anser your question.
But to start an answer the Shootin will not be with the Mexicans but very well be with some of our own Folks who have been mislead by the Middle East
Factions.
If you will go into Baja or the Mainland and find out some of the Cultural differences about "Cops getting Money form Speeder", come back and report
your findinds, I will anser your question.
But to start an answer the Shootin will not be with the Mexicans but very well be with some of our own Folks who have been mislead by the Middle East
Factions.
Why don't you lay back down in your casket. Don't you know this is daytime? You're only supposed to show yourself at night, or early morning.
Really now, what is more heartwarming than a cuddly puppy? A 61.7% increase in concealed weapons permits. Fact is that although I suppose open carry
is better than concealed, I just can't grasp why so many folks feel threatened and by what. The wild, wild West is long gone. And even then, didn't
the sheriff make the gunslingers check their weapons when they entered town?
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