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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jeans
...can't be too cautious in noticing your surroundings. While driving in Tijuana recently on my way to the dentist, I found myself in traffic next to
a black Explorer with blacked out windows.  We were heading in the same
direction. I peeled off and doubled back around the block. 
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Jeans.....probably just a large family outing with someone that has to keep out of the sun.......
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rts551
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about that many work the large tire shop in GN,,, and they close for a week sometimes (Christmas, Semana Santa)
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JESSE
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1.-22 men take a vacation and don't have a reservation or a place to stay?
2.-Why all men? where the family? children?
3.-Nobody has filed a missing person report for any of the men.
4.-Another group of 7 people from Michoacan is missing in Colima state.
It just doesn't add up.
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DENNIS
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There's just too many unknowns here to allow speculation. Weird things do happen. Remember the Cardinal that got blown away in Guadalajara by the San
Diego gang working for the cartel?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
2.-Why all men? where the family? children?
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It was probably one of those gay tire shops.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by desertcpl
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
22 men, from a tire alignment shop in Morelia are tourists???
I find it hard to believe that any business would let 22 of it's employees take a "vacation" at the same time....and it must be a somewhat large tire
alignment shop to have 22 employees.........but, hey, it is Mexico |
I was thinking the same thing also, |
From a management perspective- I know many service businesses that just close for two weeks and give everyone the time off rather than try to juggle
everyones vacation schedules. Why weren't they armed in enemy territory if what you insinuate is true?
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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k-rico
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22 men (all mechanics, young to old) taking a vacation together in 4 cars?????
hahahaha
yeah, sure.
but maybe, I guess.
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BajaGringo
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I agree that it probably wasn't just a random kidnapping of tourists but the rival narco angle doesn't add up either. The real story is probably
somewhere in between and until more of the story is known we are all just guessing...
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bajaguy
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OK, let's see if I get this............
22 single men, employes by a tire alignment shop (ages 17 to 47, without families) traveling together, supposedly tourists (22 single men as
tourists????) from Morelia, in Acapulco looking for a place to stay (apparently the tour guide or travel agency in Morelia failed to make hotel/motel
reservations in Acapulco), were kidnapped by an armed gang ....kidnapped from an unknown location (city park, local Wal-Mart, possibly
Applebees's).....driven off in the "victims" three vehicles......and this is reported by a 22 year old who went to the store with another
guy?????.............uh, something isn't right about the story or what is being reported........
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sanquintinsince73
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
2.-Why all men? where the family? children?
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It was probably one of those gay tire shops. |
Gay Caballeros???
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oxxo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
Gay Caballeros??? |
It's a new movie starring Chevy Chase - The 22 Amigos
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sanquintinsince73
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| Quote: | Originally posted by oxxo
| Quote: | Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
Gay Caballeros??? |
It's a new movie starring Chevy Chase - The 22 Amigos |
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Lobsterman
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Exerpt from another website.
"The police have investigated the men. They are mechanics, tinsmiths, metal salesmen and construction workers. They are known to not be involved in
any criminal enterprises. Five were brothers from one family and three were brothers from another family.
On September 25, seven other Michoacános disappeared and are presumed kidnapped. They were in a van en route to Manzanillo for a vacation. Among them
is an American citizen named, Bryan Hernández Arredondo. The men are all young professionals: administrators, a doctor, an engineer, and a student.
Their van was found abandoned last Saturday."
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wessongroup
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kill in mexico
Thanks Lobsterman.... it does just seem to happen .... down in Mexico..
We have not thus far seen anything quite this bad in Baja ... but, we have had a few hanging bodies off bridges in TJ, ex AG's killed in their
offices.. and a few other small things happening ...
Yeah, to us from the United States.. seems a bit surreal... but, did not just a short time back 70+ people crossing over to the USA from Central &
South America were kidnapped & shot to death......... that too is a bit hard to get your "arms" around... but, it did in fact happen... as have
many other really extreme examples of seemingly mindless killings.... welcome to our world ..
Will say, thanks to our LE and Armed Forces which allow us to live a safe as we do ... as we do not have it as bad as these poor folks do down here in
Mexico... at this time....
Found this interesting "Over 200 Americans killed in Mexico since '04" believe this was a question sometime ago...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29095730/
[Edited on 10-4-2010 by wessongroup]
[Edited on 10-4-2010 by wessongroup]
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durrelllrobert
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
It was probably one of those gay tire shops. |
the one where you take a tire that keeps going down on you
Bob Durrell
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by durrelllrobert
the one where you take a tire that keeps going down on you |
Very very very sick. Thanks for the laugh.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Lobsterman
Exerpt from another website.
"The police have investigated the men. They are mechanics, tinsmiths, metal salesmen and construction workers. They are known to not be involved in
any criminal enterprises. Five were brothers from one family and three were brothers from another family.
On September 25, seven other Michoacános disappeared and are presumed kidnapped. They were in a van en route to Manzanillo for a vacation. Among them
is an American citizen named, Bryan Hernández Arredondo. The men are all young professionals: administrators, a doctor, an engineer, and a student.
Their van was found abandoned last Saturday." |
Thanks Lobsterman. If you could post a link- that would be great. It's really a shame the first thing many people do these days (including many
nomads) is to vilify the victims and then taunt them from the safety of their keyboards as being gay and somehow sub-human and deserving of their
fate. If something happened to one of us nomads- what would our fellows nomads say about us?
[Edited on 10-4-2010 by Woooosh]
Never mind Lobsterman- I just found the source and you likely will not be able to link it here. Thanks for being a step ahead of me.
[Edited on 10-4-2010 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
from the safety of their keyboards as being gay
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Well....it's reported they worked in a gay Llantera, LA LLANTA SOPLADA.
Whadoo I know? I don't write this stuff. 
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
from the safety of their keyboards as being gay
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Well....it's reported they worked in a gay Llantera, LA LLANTA SOPLADA.
Whadoo I know? I don't write this stuff. |
There are gay tire shops? Really? I think "The Blown Tire" simply means "blown tire", not The Blow Job... unless it was in Monterrey. 
The reports today say the men were not "intercepted". They had bought beers and were drinking them in public next their cars. They must have thought
it was the local police taking them away for that infraction. One family said the men were leery of going to Acapulco, but two of them had never seen
the ocean. Now that's a sad story- to be that close to the ocean and then die before you get to see it.
[Edited on 10-4-2010 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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BajaGringo
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Reading the news out of Morelia where the families have been interviewed these guys all sound like regular joe's / working stiffs. I haven't seen one
report to date linking any of them to organized crime - in fact just the opposite. The guys were all caravaning in older model family type vehicles
that you would see moms taking their kids in to soccer practice. No late model SUV's. I agree that this doesn't sound like a random tourist kidnapping
- too big a group to pull off anything like that but to just label them as narco's because it was a large group of men with no hotel reservation makes
little sense either. I am just going to wait and see as there is obviously much more to this story.
I just pray that they all live to tell it...
[Edited on 10-4-2010 by BajaGringo]
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