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DENNIS
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Quote: | Originally posted by David K
In 1907, when the first map was published using the name 'Willard' for the point or bay, Papa was 10 years old. |
Yeah....it was almost impossible to trust those old maps for their inaccuracies. That's why there are so many "Lost Mines" and "Lost This And Thats"
in Baja. You just couldn't rely on them.
Now...a miner, who has been to the heart and soul of the earth, knows the real truth.
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David K
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I bet the duck was named after the point???
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DENNIS
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Quote: | Originally posted by David K
I bet the duck was named after the point??? |
NoNoNo.............Don't believe that.
I've offered a solution to a mystery and DK is offering a mystery to a solution. How can we move forward with these contradictions?
"What came first? The Point or the Egg?"
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Skipjack Joe
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I like your story, Dennis, but expected a different ending.
Papa never found Bedo because, in desperation, Bedo had eaten Willard and was afraid to show his face again at the ranch.
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Beto ate Willard???
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Nobody has this quite right yet, although DENNIS has parts of it. I have researched this at great length and have the historically correct answer.
Cortez, when preparing for his great expedition, took on a young British adventurer named Willard Hamlin as a conscript. He served on the lead ship
in various capacities, painter, laborer, carpenter, cook, a young English jack of all trades as the Cortez fleet crossed the oceans and started the
exploration of that great narrow body of water which was later to bear his name. As the ships progressed farther north along the western body of land
forming the narrow sea, they hauled anchor at a point which formed the northern boundary of what was to become, variously, the Bahia de Gonzaga. They
needed water and supplies. Setting up camp on land, the Cortez crew met and traded with the indigenous people, the Cochimi, and other peaceful
tribes. The Englishman Willard took a skiff one day to Isla San Luis and there, found a large population of white ducks (patos blancos). Recognizing
a significant food source, he boxed up a breeding supply of ducks and brought them to the main camp on the mainland point. The ducks thrived, and
provided a source of companionship, friendship, and food for the Cortez crew. After a year or so the expedition left Gonzaga, and in gratitude,
Cortez himself named the northern point of the bay "Willard" in honor of his young British crewman.
Epilogue: Willard never got over his unnatural attraction for ducks. He died in disrepute and dishonor in Wales at the young age of 40.
carpe diem!
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David K
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Wow... you guys are pretty funny tonight!
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DENNIS
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Thank you, Ken. I doubt I want to know what Willard was doing to those ducks. It sounds disrespectful, for sure. It sets me off all the more to hear
he had a perverse attraction to Wales as well. Poor endangered creatures have enough problems without this guy going around poking things at 'em.
Anyway, we're adding important pieces to the story in hopes they will all fit together.
I had my doubts about Igor's report that Beto ate Willard because, as everybody knows, Beto was a Vegan and only ate rocks and twigs....a commodity
which Baja has in abundance.
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Maybe ?
I heard that a gringo explorer named Willard picked up a Bar Girl in Mexicali and took her south, settling for a while in Gonzaga.
As a tribute to her talents on lonely nights, he named the area "Puta de Willard".
The name stuck, but was altered a bit.
Could be.
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Ken Bondy
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Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Thank you, Ken. I doubt I want to know what Willard was doing to those ducks. It sounds disrespectful, for sure. It sets me off all the more to hear
he had a perverse attraction to Wales as well. Poor endangered creatures have enough problems without this guy going around poking things at 'em.
Anyway, we're adding important pieces to the story in hopes they will all fit together.
I had my doubts about Igor's report that Beto ate Willard because, as everybody knows, Beto was a Vegan and only ate rocks and twigs....a commodity
which Baja has in abundance. |
Love it DENNIS! Finally got the part about "Wales". The pieces are coming together.
carpe diem!
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DENNIS
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Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
Could be. |
Absolutly could be.
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David K
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In some recent research, the name may have come from the highly respected U.S. consul in Guaymas, Alexander Willard (1868-1891)... Still looking, but
that is the best answer I have so far, duck or no duck!
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It has just come to my attention that the suplemental insurance company AFLAC was founded in 1955. This dovetails nicely with the
recorded historic events centered around Papa Fernandez and the duck at this very same time. It's clear, therefore, that Willard did not just go
missing, but flew north after his near demise and founded an institution that forever after gave ducks a reasonable sense of security.
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My middle name is Willard (really) but I dont remember naming that punta...Of course my memory isnt as good as it used to be.....
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Quote: | Originally posted by Steve in Oro Valley
Hi everybody:
Willard, If I am not mistaken, was a surveyor, plant explorer with the Mexican boundary survey in about 1855?
His name is part of the scientific name for the Sonoran palo blanco tree which is commonly seen on the slopes of Tetas de Cabra hill near San Carlos
Bay in Sonora. That name would be Acacia willardiana (Willard's Acacia). Other plants from Sonora may contain reference to his name....
The Sonoran palo blanco is not to be confused with the palo blanco of Baja California Sur which is Lysiloma candida....
Willard's name may show on American made maps of long ago but newer Mexican maps use their own local and often Mexican names for place names...
Steve in Oro valley |
This seems to be the most logical explanation so far.
Allen R
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I'm goin with Mr Bill.
I yam what I yam and that\'s all what I yam.
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You all know that a duck's quack has no echo don't you?
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David K
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Quote: | Originally posted by bufeo
Quote: | Originally posted by Steve in Oro Valley
Hi everybody:
Willard, If I am not mistaken, was a surveyor, plant explorer with the Mexican boundary survey in about 1855?
His name is part of the scientific name for the Sonoran palo blanco tree which is commonly seen on the slopes of Tetas de Cabra hill near San Carlos
Bay in Sonora. That name would be Acacia willardiana (Willard's Acacia). Other plants from Sonora may contain reference to his name....
The Sonoran palo blanco is not to be confused with the palo blanco of Baja California Sur which is Lysiloma candida....
Willard's name may show on American made maps of long ago but newer Mexican maps use their own local and often Mexican names for place names...
Steve in Oro valley |
This seems to be the most logical explanation so far.
Allen R |
If anyone has a first name for this Willard the plant guy, please let us know. Because of the year and location, it may be the same guy who became the
U.S. consul?
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Dennis, you are so amazing. Just mind blowing how you come up with this stuff.... And the verification/supplementation that Igor and Ken come up
with is beyond comprehension. You should write a book!
I'll turn a Tecate upside down for you guys as I pass by there tomorrow. And, lest I forget, I'll be sure to mark it on the GPS for posting at a
later time!
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mtgoat666
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c. 1890 plant named by palmer for alexander willard, us consul at guayamas
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