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what time is a good time?
Headed south Saturday AM early. Need fmt's. Was going to Otay
but Tijuana open 24hrs ? .... But How early is to early?
Driving to Loreto so the soon I cross the sooner we get home.
Would like to cross 5:00'ish AM... still a little dark..
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I would hit the San Ysidro crossing to get your FMT at sunrise.
The riskiest portion of the trip is the first 70 miles, we drive it in daylight these days.
(the old days we timed sunrise at the turnoff to Punta Banda)
Have a great drive.
Ken
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Narco conventions? Maybe that's what it can be used for.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MsTerieus
When are you going, Nan? FYI, I will be going, all by my lonesome, next Saturday. I made such a trip in August, without incident. I stopped in TJ
just long enough to pick up a rental car, and then I got the Heck outta there, driving straight to Punta Banda.  I had a very good time! 
I'm more concerned about this trip, as I must be in TJ, at the end of my trip, for 36 hours or so. 
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we're leaving wednesday am and probably coming back sat or sun. you're brave to travel alone. enjoy your trip.
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I've been thinking about this thread in conjunction posters such as Dennis' somewhat pessimistic view, I have some optimistic thoughts and testimonial
which I would like to posit. If you are interested in a longer view to the Baja Crime discussion and circumstances from a personal and historical
perspective, please read this and consider what actions you can take.
First, I just completed a trip from Northern California through the central part of the State following a adaption of Skeet's suggested route, I
traveled out the 46 to Oildale to the 385, to meet the 15 and across at Otay Mesa to continue South through Baja to the tip. I found that crime, gangs
and drug use and corruption was obviously prevalent in California along with massive police presence along with many daily reported failures to catch
criminals. In Northern California, a proliferation of police shakedowns were observed for crimes such as speeding one mile over the speed limit or
parking one minute over a limit. In Baja traffic, conversely, I have yet to witness serious crime or drugs in Baja or Baja Sur, nor a marketed Police
presence. In La Paz, I found a tranquil city with strong cross functional policing presence and many of the well known problematic half wit criminals
were in rehabilitation, in jail or out and at work. While Police presence was visible in BCS, there was a distinct lack of shakedowns observed a
general cooperative effort was observed with drivers clearly signaling to others to proceed ahead at cuatro altos, in order to allow fast
intersections. Police were visibly tolerant of safe rolling stops, cars with no plates, or of cars lacking proper lights such as race cars or sport
project cars. Not once yet over the last month have I witnessed a police shakedown where previously this was observed multiple times daily, even with
many passes through cities such as Mexicali, Constitucion, La Paz etc... and the people en route have been the most sincere and respectful people I
can recall meeting worldwide, not to mention thoughtful, open minded, critical of societal failures yet able to discuss and philospohize society and
politics calmly More so, there are reports of casual criminals being caught every night by attentive people calling out and identifying the criminals.
From the top to the bottom criminals and corruptos are being identified, denounced and pursued by the public at large through public declarations, in
newspapers, radio and tv every day.
Taking a long view at crime in Baja, comparative analysis of crime reports between regions or countries has some limited benefits, because crime
statistics may be under or over reported. But a closer look can benefit readers from relevant relational data, for example, for a specific region did
the crime increase and of what sort or type? For example, the USA has more people in jail than China whose population is far greater, exceeding
billions, yet the common perception within the USA is that China fails to respect humans rights and that the US does, or that China is corrupt and the
USA is not. While, the USA, with it's massive incarceration, evidence of human rights abuses, torture, absurd immigration double-standards and drone
plane assassinations not to mention CIA assassination teams, would clearly meet the qualifications of a totalitarian human rights abuser far more so
than China and even more so than Mexico whose incarceration rate and abuses is fractionally lower than China. What is going on here? The perception
versus the reality does not make sense. Is there a case of false perception or marketing or is Mexico lawless and the USA lawful?
More generally one might ask is lawless increasing in Mexico, where, how and why?
In regard to the news reports of murders and beheadings in Baja and reported statistics we should ask basic questions first:
What is happening and can I affect change on the situation?
At a glance, certainly the reported Mexico beheadings and murders appear quite similar to actions that are reportedly occurring within USA's
aggressions abroad by mercenary contractors employed by the DOD from within the Pentagon under multi-national companies known as Blackwater or Xe in
affiliation with military contracting companies Haliburton, Dyncorp etc... Are mercenaries are working in a similar capacity, creating insurgent
actions of terrorism as part of a global strategy in Mexico under Merida Initiative funding?
The first question, What is happening? requires a longer comparative view, apparently simultaneously crime has increased in both California and Baja.
There is little accurate historical data about Baja but there is anecdotal data. It seems like Baja is more dangerous as is California. In California,
USA, up until prior to the 1980's, society experienced comparatively lower incarceration rates, a growing and productive economy as well as the
highest educational scores in the Nation. Now, California has among the lowest scores in education in the Nation, the incarceration rate is among the
highest in the world with nearly 1:100 incarcerated and our state is bankrupt while Governor Swarztneggar continues to work on the side as an actor to
make fictional movies such as "The Expendibles". Government servants working simulateously in private industry would never have been tolerated in
comparative societies. We ask why now? What is happening now that the public allow political leaders to work simultaneously in private industry
effectively a compromise of ethics?
Daily corruption in Baja is reported from top to bottom in Government and institutions. There are either of two obvious answers, 1) there are idiots
running amock in institutional politics, education and businesses or 2) there is a manufactured decline of the moral fabric of society for the benefit
of institutional benefactors-the Monarchical multi-national financial leaders have orchestrated chaos for their personal benefit. Many argue both the
conspiratorial and accidental theories are true, failure is both allowed to happen and made to happen in order or bring about societal control.
Looking back at society over hundreds of years, most society were based on a feudal system of Nation States. Monarchies have attempted to control the
majority of the population through various means from slavery to indentured work, lack of representation or the use of sheer violent intimidation.
Over time, feudal Nation States, which where/are common, have fought for power over the populace and each other, however, the families in control, the
bloodlines have largely remained the same while in some cases they changed their names, today it is accepted that most Monarchical leaders as well as
leaders of the Republic of USA and Mexican Presidents are all closely related. At times monarchies power was broken and subsequently rejoined such as
when Germany was separated following World War II or for example the reunification of Germany in 1990, the pattern of Monarchy control persists.
When political strategists such as the Fabian Socialists, Bilderbergers, (CFR) Council on Foreign Relations, or TRi Lateral Commission or N-zis for
example look at beneficial solutions for controlling the populace, many ideas, theories and strategies have been presented over hundreds of years.
One idea has been to end the tiresome individual Nation State paradigm and replace it with a global company or global regime, today, and over the
last 100 years, this is commonly refered to by the political presenters as their New World Order or Global Government by people such as the Queen of
England and George Bush, for example. The Fabian Socialists were among globalists who strategized various incremental institutional systems to
incrementally change from a feudal system of Nation States to a global regime through incremental chaos, one idea often floated is micro-poisoning the
water to reduce the intelligence and reasoning ability of the populace. Another is to affect and reduce food opportunity or reduce health care
opportunities. Today sodium flouride is commonly distributed in water systems in the USA, while it is also commonly used a rat poison. Historically
California alone could produce enough food to feed nearly the entire world, yet today farms are either paid to not farm, disbanded or water resources
have been reduced to reduce California's food output to the point where food shortage exists and costs are rising, more over health care options are
increasingly expensive and restrictive.
Significant sociological strategists in North America such as Francis Galton, Margaret Sanger, Aldous Huxley and Alice Bailey have urged the use of
institutional eugenics to curtail less than desirable strains of populations versus desirable strains, eugenics efforts were institutionalized in
American through forced sterilizations of indigenous people, outright murder, reduced fertility experiments etc... implicitly implying that their own
families, the Galtons, Sangers, and Baileys were more desirable than others who were perceived to be less intelligent or less productive. Regardless
of the evidence that interbreeding proves to be problematic causing health problems, interbreeding of powerful families and monarchies was and remains
condoned while eugenics polices or social engineering proliferate both as experiments and as policy most often with drastic results. It appears that
drug related deaths are among many forms of eugenics, where the corporate state profits from the individual while killing them, like cigarettes and
the vast medicinal market.
In any context, there is a dynamic where for every action there is a reaction, there is a constant dynamic, or politic which may be affected, by
creating an extreme, an opposite extreme proliferates, when manufactured, these extreme actions can be more easily controlled, sometimes this is
called the tallest poppy strategy, where the standouts can be recognized and cut down, or the best way to beat the enemy is be the enemy, or keep your
friends close and enemies closer. For example, a person such as JFK, MLK, Ghandi when acting in response to an increasingly powerful Monarchical
Military Complex is identified and removed.
In the context of societal control an atmosphere of corruption is advantageous, whereas the Peter Principle is derived, in this institutional ideal,
people in power are promoted up to their level of incompetence, in achieving incompetence versus intelligent-ethical and moral decision-making in
productive environments, greater control of society and institutions is possible through compromised agents in control. When agents are not able to be
controlled they may be removed and replaced based on their apparent corruption.
A simple example is if you had a high ranking military officer of good moral fiber who followed the basic ideals of SOFA or Status of Forces, or the
Geneva Rights Treaty which defines how troops should be treated, this high ranking officer would be less likely to be compromised or in fact
impossible to compromise-- torture, murder, etc... would not be tolerated. Whereas a compromised high ranking officer is easily corrupted to allow any
sort of compromise to due process, ethics or morals, slavery, theft, prostitution, torture, pedophilia is allowed to occur within a corrupt system,
even encouraged and prosecution of failures of due process are reserved for those of high moral fiber and ethics.
In strategizing a worldwide plan for movement from feudal Monarchies toward global Monarchy, Monarchists strategize to create an environment of
corruption, where corrupt leaders are allowed to persist and are promoted over good moral and ethical individuals thereby a system of collective
control may be achieved.
For example, in a compromised system, corrupt CEO's are promoted, corrupt generals are promoted, corruption throughout society is tolerated, allowed,
fostered, encouraged, ignored ad inifinitum. Examples of this coddled corruption are present and proliferating throughout our most recent 100 year
history and certainly previously as well. In addition a compromised strategy encourages and promotes the populace to live in an elevated level of
fear, uncertain about morality. In effect the populace is living with a cognitive dissonance between what they understand to be the way to live life
morally, versus the immorality they experience in their daily life, cognitive dissonance creates a disarmed public, devoid of a sense of common
morality, without rules to live by, they are disjoined, lacking trust and less likely to join together to affect majority control. Some examples are
well broadcast news reports of pedophilia in the clergy for example in the Catholic Church, slave trade within the United Nations, unethical behavior
of child protective services etc... whether by allowing or making it on purpose, a dissonant moral fabric of society, results in a populace divided,
both in terms of their ability to understand their environment and their ability to react to it. Whereas a populace who is educated, capable of
intelligent critical thinking, discussion, collusion, cooperation and group action would be capable of achieving a moral society, an equal society
without economic, racial or gender barriers defined by family ties, royalty and nepotism.
Historically, in response to Monarchy a Republic was initiated for example the USA was founded as a Republic which apolitical system with checks and
balances, monopolies were restricted which provided a even playing field for people to work without obstacles and blocks put in place by
multi-generational multi-national institutional monarchies. The Monarchies recognize the Republic as a threat to their domination and attempt to
dismantle it through broad techniques allowing failures to persist.
What can we do?
Individuals are powerful. Groups are more powerful. People have an amazing ability to affect change, some examples are well known and previously noted
as Thomas Jefferson, John F Kennedy, Martin Luther King and Ghandi among many many others. These examples show that, simply put every person is
infinitely connected to the solution, infinitely powerful to cause change through actions precipitated by critical discussion and thoughtful action.
An example of this is as follows, I previously noted on BN the presence of a gang of about 20 corrupt men in our barrio, (recall many on BN ridiculed
me and my neighbors for standing against the criminals saying we would be killed among other defeating comments). The thieves apparently worked in
conjunction with police and institutions to sell stolen goods, sell drugs and the institutions failed to prosecute thieves. Daily, the good moral
people of the neighborhood had to defend themselves, locate their stolen car batteries in order to get to work and buy them back for 20 pesos to be
used for drugs etc... Police arrived often but apparently only to facilitate the distribution of stolen goods and drugs, corruption was prevalent.
Finally, one day the neighborhood stood as witness to criminal behavior en masse against the corrupt gang in broad daylight, women, men, children,
seniors, incapacitated individuals in wheel chairs etc... stood against the gang. Together they signed a declaration against the gang, they also
filed an institutional report naming the criminals, nothing happened, but the good people persisted. Nothing happened, they persisted, finally, it
became clear that the system was at fault allowing the criminal corruption to feed off of the good moral families. Awkward keystone cop moments
followed, where the denounced thieves were clearly allowed to persist, even at times under police escort. Standoffs between families of corrupt
thieves and institutional workers versus families of good morals followed. Tense moments filled with shouting machetee wielding rage blossomed.
Interestingly the two sides, moral versus criminal, blamed each other, the thieves tended to blame the moral families for their plight-both concluding
with sighs and statements such as -this is how it is, and nothng we can we do, were common.
But the people persisted and eventually the corrupt police and thieves were not even allowed to walk the streets without being confronted, protesters
went to the police station daily (with little result), alternative forces were contacted to contradict the corrupt thieves and police in addition to
increased attentiveness, cooperation, use of tools such as photography and video and testimony to witness criminal behavior.
Eventually the thieves were run out and put in jail, however as expected, they were released promptly, claiming rehabilitation, they came back, yet
good moral people persisted to fight back, individually and collectively against the institutional corruption. The thieves have had no option but to
leave or rehabilitate, they have begun to look for work, the institutional corrupt leaders of police, government and business have had to either leave
or alter their behavior in order to ask if they could be allowed back to the now quiet and safe neighborhood even asking if they could live in the
neighborhood if they followed the set rules of moral people. Still, the people, the general population remain attentive, they greet their counterparts
face to face to check if they are in fact following through with moral actions versus criminal behavior, peer pressure is prevalent, basically the
people are involved in their community, each person is engaged in the community activity, no one will tolerate corruption for even one moment.
Corruption and criminal behavior generates an immediate and strong community response.
To be clear, I take no credit for my neighborhood's strength, I am not a special person, they did the work in my absence but I do support the actions
and have done so in simple steps which I have written about here, such as sharing food, sharing ideas on growing gardens and composting and standing
against criminals, actually sometimes just listening. To those who echoed defeatist comments such as those who stand against crime will be killed, I
would argue that it makes little sense to argue against standing up to crime as a successful strategy, a failure to stop criminal activity will
certainly result that either you will be killed as a targeted victim or as an unintended victim, so you really have no choice but stand up for
yourself or give in entirely.
There is an explanation for the crime in Baja, California, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc... there is a history. There is a reason we are in a state
of increased crime, highly promoted crime stories and marketed terror threats. There is a reason that corruption is allowed to exist unprosecuted,
while the USA Military Complex is the most powerful in the world that can achieve anything for example kill any person with the push of a button, why
they can't they feed every person with the push of a button-or stop crime, or maintain the best education system? Answer: because they do not want to
stop crime nor do they want a well feed educated public.
To stop the forces that allow crime, people must educate themselves about society, the world, the Hegelian dialect of problem-reaction-solution, which
is used to manipulate people and control society, by using critical thinking, reading, writing and arithmetic, to participate in discussion, rhetoric
and reason to understand the dynamics around you, will see that most of the compromises and corruption that occurs happen by your agreement, you sign
your name to contract with a corrupt system and agree to abide by it or you can choose not to. Furthermore, one must consider the goals and
implications of the Monarchies influences on our lives historically and the present versus our ability to act as independent moral society. Know what
you are, using what we know about the world historically, to deny the influence of Monarchical multi-generational mullti-national institutions
influence on communities, to reduce the power of a global corporate state. Allowing and creating corruption is to fail to understand that you control
your world around you. It is entirely up to individuals working together to create checks and balances in society, reaffirm moral values or to accept
the role of the individual as a slave to the monarchy, it's your choice. Either stand up or stand down.
[Edited on 10-13-2010 by gnukid]
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doesn't help all the dead or us trying to live comfortably and scare free in Baja
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| Quote: | Originally posted by krafty
doesn't help all the dead or us trying to live comfortably and scare free in Baja |
You actually READ that whole post?! 
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Hey I just spent 3 days last week in Rosarito Beach at the Hotel. Had dinners there and Ensenada. "ALL'S WELL" in both places. Take all the usual
precautions and just enjoy Baja, PLEASE. The usual precautions haven't changed since I was 20 years old in 1966 when I first started going down and it
was.. "so dangerous" down there....
The bad guys are not looking for you. They're looking for their partners in crime. Just don't get in the way.
Don\'t mess with the old dog...... Age and skill will always overcome youth and treachery! Brilliance only comes with age and
experience.....  ....  ....
Are you getting the most out of life OR is life getting the most out of you ?? 
Twenty years from now you\'ll be more disappointed by the things you didn\'t do then the things you did.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by krafty
doesn't help all the dead or us trying to live comfortably and scare free in Baja |
Each person needs to consider these issues on their own and talk about it with friends, once you do come to a greater understanding of who what and
how the crime problem is being created and promoted you will find a position without fear and find methods to reduce crime around you.
We ended the control of a very powerful crime ring in my neighborhood. I can't talk about everything here obviously, but in the process we needed to
stand up directly to criminals without fear, we had to start by listening to them and feeding them to get them to think straight, they backed down,
eventually all 20 of the main crime gang have been either rehabilitated or have moved on, including those in government and police.
It required no force, no weapons, nothing but sheer will and determination of women, men, seniors and kids. Today, we sit and listen to birds sing as
opposed to 24 hours of drug induced fighting and cars pulling in and out. It took a few years.
Now we share recipes and gardening tips. Does anyone remember Chino Muleta well he is out of jail and trying to get along, he is fatter. We can only
take every day as it comes.
The first step is to come to terms with who and what is behind political control and lack of control, media etc... The second step is to see yourself
as your own leader. Third step is up to you.
No one can make you feel some way unless you let them.
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P-nches sinaloas are back and bringing their savage tactics, when is the goverment going to go after these idiots, they have the whole nation at war
because of them.
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So.....
Do you think early.... is too early???
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| Quote: | Originally posted by msawin
So.....
Do you think early.... is too early??? |
Maybe we need an EARLY poll.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by msawin
So.....
Do you think early.... is too early??? |
Si, temprano es muy temprano.
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"the poll"
sounds good to me the.... "early poll"
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| Quote: | Originally posted by surfer jim
Narco conventions? Maybe that's what it can be used for.
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The old Oasis Hotel and RV place that was torn down was on part of the NAOS site. It was owned by the CAF. The more things change, the more they
remain the same I guess.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
p-nches sinaloas are back and bringing their savage tactics, when is the goverment going to go after these idiots, they have the whole nation at war
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I thought the Sinaloas basically owned the gov't- hook , line and stinkers. Wasn't it you that said "follow the money?". Well, they got the money-
Billions. And the top gov't people (political leaders, military, judicial) have been on their payroll for so long they can't be separated without
bringing the whole gov't down. I think for peace you just have to support the Sinaloas, let them wipe out the local CAF and hope they become kinder
to their corpses and the rest of us.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
The old Oasis Hotel and RV place that was torn down |
Yeah..........that was one of the many hotels in Mexico that never show a vacancy on the books, but never have a breathing guest.
An interesting story about that place [I know...I've told it before, but I'm in the mood to be repeatedly redundant].
Around ten years back, the military stormed the place and took possession of it. Armed guards everywhere. Seems their was a breakdown in
communication between the cartel and the Army. Well...the damage was done, the Army had the hotel and the world knew about it.
What to do...What to do....What to do.
After pondering the dilemma and ironing out the differences in the back room, the military decided to return the hotel saying that after exaustive
investigation, it was found that the hotel wasn't actually owned by the AF cartel, but by their mother....whom I assume owns the property to this day.
See how easy it all is? Even the Army will make a mistake now and then. This time their mistake was messing with the wrong people.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
The old Oasis Hotel and RV place that was torn down |
Yeah..........that was one of the many hotels in Mexico that never show a vacancy on the books, but never have a breathing guest.
An interesting story about that place [I know...I've told it before, but I'm in the mood to be repeatedly redundant].
Around ten years back, the military stormed the place and took possession of it. Armed guards everywhere. Seems their was a breakdown in
communication between the cartel and the Army. Well...the damage was done, the Army had the hotel and the world knew about it.
What to do...What to do....What to do.
After pondering the dilemma and ironing out the differences in the back room, the military decided to return the hotel saying that after exaustive
investigation, it was found that the hotel wasn't actually owned by the AF cartel, but by their mother....whom I assume owns the property to this day.
See how easy it all is? Even the Army will make a mistake now and then. This time their mistake was messing with the wrong people.
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True, and the mother still lives in a very nice Coronado home and has Sunday brunch at the Hotel Del Coronado to this very day. Mexican men always
take good care of their mothers (and families).
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Here's another good one. Remember Jorge Hank Rhon, past mayor of Tijuana and current owner of Caliente sports betting? Oh, good. You remember. I'll
bet you also remember his father who was one of the most powerful people in the Mexican government.
Well....Jorge, who did pretty much whatever he wanted to do with impunity, flew back into Mexico from a trip to China with a pile of prohibited goods,
such as Ivory.
He was apprehended at the airport and dutifully charged for possession of the goods.
OH OH......................Now what? Daddy got wind of this official disrespect and heads started to roll...in the old sense.
What to do....What to do....What to do
The solution all of a sudden became clear. The prohibited goods were deemed FAKE. They wre some kind of Chinese plastic.
Charges were dropped and life went on.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Here's another good one. Remember Jorge Hank Rhon, past mayor of Tijuana and current owner of Caliente sports betting? Oh, good. You remember. I'll
bet you also remember his father who was one of the most powerful people in the Mexican government.
Well....Jorge, who did pretty much whatever he wanted to do with impunity, flew back into Mexico from a trip to China with a pile of prohibited goods,
such as Ivory.
He was apprehended at the airport and dutifully charged for possession of the goods.
OH OH......................Now what? Daddy got wind of this official disrespect and heads started to roll...in the old sense.
What to do....What to do....What to do
The solution all of a sudden became clear. The prohibited goods were deemed FAKE. They wre some kind of Chinese plastic.
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A little side note to Dennis' post. Jorge Hank Rhon's father was offered the presidency of Mexico back in the day but he declined. He said he had more
power as is. Today Hank Rhon is worth around $700 million, he owns all calientes in mexico and Pueblo Amigo Hotel in TJ to name a few.
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