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[*] posted on 1-15-2011 at 11:11 PM


I second the good air compressor...I guess you'll be going off road and airing down now and then and there is a 50/50 chance any gas station (should you be so lucky) will have one working...or if it is you might as well pull up a chair and crack a few beers as it may take a while.

The Baja Catch is also a great recommendation be it aluminum or inflatable. The winds on the Cortez of course are legendary but in the upper Cortez, it is the OFF shore winds that can really bust your buttons. You can usually see the on shore ones coming with a ruffling of the water on the horizon but the off shore winds can hit you like a bolt of lightning...seems like spring/early summer is the worst time for these. Definitely have some sort of emergency kit on hand.
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[*] posted on 1-16-2011 at 12:26 AM
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Duct tape and bailing wire.

In order to mend virtually anything you do decide to bring.
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[*] posted on 1-16-2011 at 07:40 AM


Yep, I am a sailor, have been commercial fisherman. You need to include zipties and WD40.

The tools of Mcgiver :o

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Duct tape and bailing wire.

In order to mend virtually anything you do decide to bring.


[Edited on 1-16-2011 by mackconsult]




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[*] posted on 1-16-2011 at 10:56 AM


How long are you going to be on this trip? Consider that less might be "more" - in terms of hauling, setup, weight, maintenance, cost. I always find that simplicity works in every case. How often will you be fishing? Could you just hire a panga or fish offshore instead? I like the fittings welded onto your rig to attach tarps. That usually serves you well when you want relief from the hot sun. A cheap large tent will do the same thing. A cliff, tree or umbrella works well too. I move my chair to follow the shade. If it's not raining or 100 degrees, you don't need a tarp. If it's too windy to build a fire, a tarp isn't going to help. That's when you bring out the smoked oysters, a jar of olives, crackers, vino rojo for dinner - or go out to a restaurant. Really - you don't need to bring literally a ton of stuff to enjoy Baja CA. Don't insulate yourself from all that is Baja.
PS: Inflatable will drift faster in a breez/current and will puncture more easily than aluminum.
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[*] posted on 1-16-2011 at 11:38 AM


Probably be two weeks. Take 3 to 4 days to get down, camping the whole way. Then stay some were nice. Camp 3 to 4 days back.

Actually the stuff I carry in my van stays there. We have lots of room in the sprinter. Fishing often when ever close to water. No, I will not hire any body to take me out, unless I get skunked day after day. I am an accomplished fisherman.

Trust me we will enjoy Baja to its fullest including villa stay, restaurants, and the beach/dessert. My wife and i have travelled to Cabo, Zijua, Isla de Navadad, and Guadalajara.

I realize winds will push an inflatable around, but the same thing will happen to a light aluminum boat. Buckets in the water can help with that.

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How long are you going to be on this trip? Consider that less might be "more" - in terms of hauling, setup, weight, maintenance, cost. I always find that simplicity works in every case. How often will you be fishing? Could you just hire a panga or fish offshore instead? I like the fittings welded onto your rig to attach tarps. That usually serves you well when you want relief from the hot sun. A cheap large tent will do the same thing. A cliff, tree or umbrella works well too. I move my chair to follow the shade. If it's not raining or 100 degrees, you don't need a tarp. If it's too windy to build a fire, a tarp isn't going to help. That's when you bring out the smoked oysters, a jar of olives, crackers, vino rojo for dinner - or go out to a restaurant. Really - you don't need to bring literally a ton of stuff to enjoy Baja CA. Don't insulate yourself from all that is Baja.
PS: Inflatable will drift faster in a breez/current and will puncture more easily than aluminum.


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[*] posted on 1-16-2011 at 11:45 AM


I know "Judy's List" is cumbersome, overloaded and space consuming and no one in their right mind would try to bring all those items, but if the need arises for any one of them and you don't have it, you'll never forget it.
It's one of those "Baja Facts of Life."
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[*] posted on 1-16-2011 at 11:57 AM


I have had a list of things I keep in my van, here it is:

List of things in van
-snow chains *
-well outfitted tool chest *
-tow strap *
-jumper cables *
-bucket w/ lid *
-rope *
-bungee cords *
-fillet knife *
-soap *
-zip ties *
-duct tape *
-WD40 *
-bailing wire
-fix a flat
-wrenches *
-socket set
-rags *
-paper towels *
-toilet paper *
-tarp *
-towel *
-portable rain gear *
-extra hoses, clamps, & fittings
-flashlight *
-water/food
-12 v air compressor
-small portable shovel; http://casanovasadventures.com/catalog/metaldetector/p11021....
-ECU programmer *
-gloves *
-scrubber pad *

As I mentioned before the van will have two spares implemented one on the front brush guard, the other in the normal spot underneath. I am putting "hooks" on the top of the van so that I can hang tarps off it on side and in back were the doors are. Have a yakima rack on top with long bars so that I can put my big 22 ft^3 thule box on top. Also buying one of these HF 2" cargo carriers (http://www.harborfreight.com/500-lb-capacity-deluxe-cargo-carrier-66983.html) that will be strapped to the yakima rack for further storage capability on top. Only light things go on top of the van, anything heavy stays down low on the floor of the van, tucked on sides of the motorcycle.

I have done several camp trips in my van with this setup and it works really well even if the night of camping is some what short. I.E. stop at 7 pm, unload some stuff, camp out till the morning, then load back up and start driving. When the van is loaded it can be easily configured so that we can stop for like lunch, pull the food and cooking equipment out easily.

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[*] posted on 1-16-2011 at 11:58 AM
Corkscrew - See below


Reminds me of my safari in Africa. Somebody forgot the corkscrew and for several days we had to live on nothing but food and water." --W.C. Fields




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[*] posted on 1-16-2011 at 12:01 PM


We have a tote for "camping" there is a corkscrew in there.

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Reminds me of my safari in Africa. Somebody forgot the corkscrew and for several days we had to live on nothing but food and water." --W.C. Fields




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[*] posted on 1-16-2011 at 12:23 PM


A list without TAMPAX will leave you cursing yourself to the grave. :lol:
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[*] posted on 1-16-2011 at 12:24 PM


just take a screwdriver and push the cork into the bottle. if you got a screw needs turning, well, you planned ahead. but really, in my 30 years going to baja the only thing i ever forgot that i REALLY needed was a can opener, for the soup, back when we were less sophisticated. again, a hammer and screwdriver solved that problem.'

most of the stuff you are bringing you will only be moving around to try to find what it is your are searching for. less is better. let us know what % of the stuff you never touched when you get back.

unless you end up in the area that shall not be named, there are actually stores everywhere.....

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[*] posted on 1-16-2011 at 12:35 PM


Most of the stuff on this list is small and easily fits in milk crates or the door pockets of the van. I am a sailor, used to be commercial fisherman ....

Even though I may not touch some of this stuff during the trip, doesn't mean there was a "risk" that I would touch it. I am one that is usually very prepared for anything. You have to be to drive a WVO powered sprinter van :o.

I posted this list for other peoples benefit, so don't bash it.

Besides you have to remember that I will most likely be traveling with the wife, kids, and dog. Any where we go we bring half our house with us ..... that is one of curses of owning a sprinter van.

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just take a screwdriver and push the cork into the bottle. if you got a screw needs turning, well, you planned ahead. but really, in my 30 years going to baja the only thing i ever forgot that i REALLY needed was a can opener, for the soup, back when we were less sophisticated. again, a hammer and screwdriver solved that problem.'

most of the stuff you are bringing you will only be moving around to try to find what it is your are searching for. less is better. let us know what % of the stuff you never touched when you get back.

unless you end up in the area that shall not be named, there are actually stores everywhere.....

[Edited on 1-16-2011 by woody with a view]


[Edited on 1-16-2011 by mackconsult]




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[*] posted on 1-16-2011 at 12:39 PM


I am sure the wife would remember those.

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[*] posted on 1-16-2011 at 12:54 PM


i didn't see the part about the kids. all bets are off.....

bring a trailer!:lol:

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[*] posted on 1-16-2011 at 12:56 PM


Nope, no trailer...... yet ......

Although I do have a good 8'x6' utility trailer, with good big wheels on it.


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i didn't see the part about the kids. all bets are off.....

bring a trailer!:lol:

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[*] posted on 1-16-2011 at 01:23 PM


I agree with wilderone that modern baja has almost everything you need if something breaks or you run out. So panic rarely sets in anymore.

The one thing I really pay attention to is medication for cold sores. The wind and sun always brings them out and the farmacias offer things like blistex and vaseline, which are useless.

So I always stock up on Abreva before leaving (Zovirax is better.

Sunblock is available everywhere so don't worry about the kids overdoing it (you can be sure they will ignore your advice).
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[*] posted on 1-16-2011 at 03:13 PM


Concerning the boat...I have been hauling a 15' Gregor with a 20hp 4 stroke down on a tricked out 14 ft flatbed aluminum trailer. The trailer has storage boxes for camping gear, boating gear, extra fuel, two spares, coolers etc. The boat is big enough but not too big; boat weight 250# and motor 120#. We use it to fish around Bahia Concepcion and up to Craig Channel at San Lucas for yellowtail. Just have to pick your days. Two of us can drag the boat above high tide line at the end of the day. I have run alot of RIBs (I'm a fish biologist) and I think you would be better served by a small aluminum boat in Baja. Just easier to deal with. Those RIBs are heavy and boat ramps are in short supply down there. If you bring a small boat make sure wire in a bilge pump in case you eat one over the transom on a following sea.
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[*] posted on 1-16-2011 at 07:28 PM


Know that is the kind of stuff I like to hear. Thanks for the input. I am on the fence on aluminum vs inflatable. Inflatable would be nice because I can deflate and easily store on top of the van. Aluminum is nice because they are durable and light, but would take a trailer for sure.

Not only that I don't have a lot of room at home to store an aluminum boat. Although I could easily buy one for just the trip .... then resell it.

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Concerning the boat...I have been hauling a 15' Gregor with a 20hp 4 stroke down on a tricked out 14 ft flatbed aluminum trailer. The trailer has storage boxes for camping gear, boating gear, extra fuel, two spares, coolers etc. The boat is big enough but not too big; boat weight 250# and motor 120#. We use it to fish around Bahia Concepcion and up to Craig Channel at San Lucas for yellowtail. Just have to pick your days. Two of us can drag the boat above high tide line at the end of the day. I have run alot of RIBs (I'm a fish biologist) and I think you would be better served by a small aluminum boat in Baja. Just easier to deal with. Those RIBs are heavy and boat ramps are in short supply down there. If you bring a small boat make sure wire in a bilge pump in case you eat one over the transom on a following sea.




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[*] posted on 1-16-2011 at 11:54 PM


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Reminds me of my safari in Africa. Somebody forgot the corkscrew and for several days we had to live on nothing but food and water." --W.C. Fields



And adding to the list I think W.C. Fields also said: "I always carry a bottle of whiskey with me in case of snake bite...I also carry a snake."
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[*] posted on 1-17-2011 at 12:20 AM


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Quote:
Originally posted by Howard
Reminds me of my safari in Africa. Somebody forgot the corkscrew and for several days we had to live on nothing but food and water." --W.C. Fields



And adding to the list I think W.C. Fields also said: "I always carry a bottle of whiskey with me in case of snake bite...I also carry a snake."


Another W.C. gem:
I always cook with wine. Sometimes I even add it to the food.
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