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bajalou
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Why would anyone go to SF for spring break? The air temps will probably be nice but there's a decent chance it will be windy and the water isn't
swim-able until much later.
SF's past spring breaks are probably a victim of college students finding better places to go as well as the perception of crime near the border.
Recently, the Arizona schools (ASU, U of A) have been heavily warning their students on their websites about doing spring break in Mexico.
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The tour companies that bring spring breakers to their destinations decided that San Felipe was unsafe because of the violence in other parts of
Mexico. They used to bring 4-8000 breakers here over about a 4 week period. That ended a few years ago. The tour companies control the big numbers
of spring breakers, not too many small groups on their own. SWAT, Summer Winter Action Tours, is a outfit that used to bring them.
Samana Santa still fills the town up, mostly Mexican people from Tijuana, Mexicali, Ensenada and So. Calif. That's when a lot of the locals stay out
of town.
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hope! yes we can!
tourism provides about 10% of mexico's GDP, and is 4th largest source of foreign exchange. 95% of tourists are gringos.
the US economic collapse (****** ** ***) and crime news (thanks to gringo appetites) have hurt tourism.
things got to change before tourism will recover, hope the federales and locals can rid the country of cartels, ************************************
[Edited on 2-16-2011 by BajaNomad]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
things got to change before tourism will recover, hope the federales and locals can rid the country of cartels, ***********************************
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Better hope the border makes a few adjustments as well. That is a major obstacle for free-flowing tourism.
[Edited on 2-16-2011 by BajaNomad]
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
things got to change before tourism will recover, hope the federales and locals can rid the country of cartels, ********************************
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Better hope the border makes a few adjustments as well. That is a major obstacle for free-flowing tourism. |
and for that mess at the border, we only have our federal govt to blame.
homeland security is the enemy of trade between mexico and US. homeland security needs to rewrite their mission statement to make trade priority
number 1.
[Edited on 2-16-2011 by BajaNomad]
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Bajahowodd
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I don't think we should underestimate how much of a chilling effect the passport requirement has had on tourism. Especially spring break and
extemporaneous travel. We folks are continually reporting how lax the border enforcement is regarding passports. But we are the minority exception.
The average Joe and Jill likely only knows what the official line is for passports. This is probably even more true for tour operators. Cannot imaging
any licensed tour operator either encouraging or allowing a customer to cross the border in official violation of Federal law.
Gotta remember, Americans have a woefully low rate of passport ownership.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Gotta remember, Americans have a woefully low rate of passport ownership. |
I should think the spring break destinations would have compensated for that in their occupancy projections. They act stunned by the lack of
reservations. You would also think with tourism being 10% of the economy, the Mexican Tourism department would become more like tour operators
themselves- instead of depending on a US based companies to bring them the business. Why haven't they?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
You would also think with tourism being 10% of the economy, the Mexican Tourism department would become more like tour operators themselves- instead
of depending on a US based companies to bring them the business. Why haven't they? |
swooshie:
spoken like a true socialist! just what we want, the mexican tourism board being in charge of rounding up customers for hotels and pangueros that toe
inflated bananas 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
You would also think with tourism being 10% of the economy, the Mexican Tourism department would become more like tour operators themselves- instead
of depending on a US based companies to bring them the business. Why haven't they? |
swooshie:
spoken like a true socialist! just what we want, the mexican tourism board being in charge of rounding up customers for hotels and pangueros that toe
inflated bananas |
What's the alternative? A gov't system to feed all the people in the tourism industry who no longer have incomes? I think people would rather work
than be given a handout. How many countries do not have an active hand in the tourism industry? The Mayor of Rosarito just got back from Mexico City
where he asked the President to open an office to "fight extreme poverty in various sectors of the population of Rosarito." I think the socialist cat
is already out of the bag.
The GOOD NEWS? "Javier Aguirre Robles expressed as a priority- the project to build a pedestrian walkway and boardwalk on the beach in Rosarito is
essential to attract more tourists to the city which was pending on the agenda of the Federal Government." I have some beach to donate to that
effort.
http://rosaritoenlanoticia.blogspot.com/2011/02/alcalde-entr...
[Edited on 2-15-2011 by Woooosh]
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Don't be that cynical. I've seen hundreds of happy folks on those banana thingys in San Lucas Bay over the years! 
But, the elaborate on my previous post, San Diego has had a thriving convention business for many years. Anyone have an idea just how many
conventioneers from Paducah to Poughkeepsie decided whilst in San Diego, to take an organized junket to TJ to shop, or Puerto Nuevo for lobster?
Just saying that since domestic travelers simply do not carry their passports, added to those who just simply don't have them so many folks will never
have such an experience in the future.
Just as Osama has seemingly caused the West to invest an enormous amount of money in security and fundamentally changed the routine of most Americans,
the cartels have to be given a nod for having put a huge dent in tourism to Mexico.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Don't be that cynical. I've seen hundreds of happy folks on those banana thingys in San Lucas Bay over the years!
But, the elaborate on my previous post, San Diego has had a thriving convention business for many years. Anyone have an idea just how many
conventioneers from Paducah to Poughkeepsie decided whilst in San Diego, to take an organized junket to TJ to shop, or Puerto Nuevo for lobster?
Just saying that since domestic travelers simply do not carry their passports, added to those who just simply don't have them so many folks will never
have such an experience in the future.
Just as Osama has seemingly caused the West to invest an enormous amount of money in security and fundamentally changed the routine of most Americans,
the cartels have to be given a nod for having put a huge dent in tourism to Mexico. |
Also take a look at how much money San Diego spends to attract and book convention groups (CONVIS budget is $16.2 Million this year). That's all
"Spring Break" is in reality- a convention group.
[Edited on 2-15-2011 by Woooosh]
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Dontcha just yearn for the good old days, when everyone could cross the border without a care in the world?
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Goat *** *** ****** **** **** ** **** ******** *** *** **** ****** *** *** *** **** *** ****** ** *** **** ******* *** **** ******* ** * ******* ****
** *** ******* ********** ** *** ***** **** ***** *** ******. Secondly the main reason people are not going to mexico is because of the security
there. People like myself and many, many others that have all the $ we need and still do not travel there any more because of the thieving culture
there that is getting worst not better. The internet and news has let the genie out of the bottle and it can never be put back in until mexico
changes its thieving culture. Plus mexico is no longer a bargin for anything.
[Edited on 2-16-2011 by BajaNomad]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
pangueros that toe inflated bananas |
How many people can you pile on one of those things? Pretty soon they'll be finding them abandoned all over San Diego beaches.
Look...here's some illegals practicing the surrender:
http://www.bali-activities.com/images/banana%20boat.jpg
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Dontcha just yearn for the good old days, when everyone could cross the border without a care in the world? |
It's still that way for the Mexicans.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Dontcha just yearn for the good old days, when everyone could cross the border without a care in the world? |
It's still that way for the Mexicans. |
Dennis, I usually tend to agree with you but I think my Mexican neighbors have it the same or worse than we do. They are targeted as much, if not
more. It pretty much sucks for everyone.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Lobsterman
Goat *** *** ****** **** **** ** **** ******** *** *** **** ****** *** *** *** **** *** ****** ** *** **** ******* *** **** ******* ** * ******* ****
** *** ******* ********** ** *** ***** **** ***** *** ******. Secondly the main reason people are not going to mexico is because of the security
there. People like myself and many, many others that have all the $ we need and still do not travel there any more because of the thieving culture
there that is getting worst not better. The internet and news has let the genie out of the bottle and it can never be put back in until mexico
changes its thieving culture. Plus mexico is no longer a bargin for anything. |
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Well there are lots of wimps in the USA **** ************ that are afraid to visit Mexico because of the sensationalized news stories about narco
violence in Mexico especially the border areas. ( of course the wimps are also scared of their own shadow)
It's good to see that not all Americans are wimps. According to a few articles including the one I posted below. Overall tourism is up in Mexico
especially in the resort cities where thousands of Americans still vacation and still get great bargains.
If you ask me places like San Felipe, Rosarito Beach, and Tijuana have other problems besides the drug cartel violence that keeps some Americans
from visiting Mexico. You have the Bush caused rescission that's just starting to rebound a little bit now. You have the new passport law that keeps
Mexican-Americans tourist away from taking their family because passports cost nearly $100 dollars a pop unless they get the "passcard" which many
people don't know about. You have problems with the border cities themselves like Tijuana that hasn't upgraded itself in years with better stores,
restaurants, and clubs. Who wants to buy Mexican blankets, fake Cuban cigars, and other cheap things?
These places in Baja have to spend a little money on redevelopment in order to upgrade themselves with more tourist attractions and services like
cheap medical care and proscription drugs.
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Tourism to Mexico Is Up
Undeterred by travel warnings and frightening headlines about safety in Mexico, an increasing number of international tourists are flying to the
country, according to the Mexico Tourism Board. The number of international tourists who flew to Mexico from January to August increased 19 percent
over the same period last year, according to the board, and most were from the United States. More than four million American citizens flew to Mexico,
an increase of 15 percent over the same period last year, and about 61 percent of international tourists to Mexico are Americans.
“There are several reasons why Mexico’s tourism numbers are up, but the strongest reason is the value Mexico delivers,” said Alfonso Sumano, director
of the Americas for the tourism board. “In addition to having several of the top sun and beach destinations of the world, Mexico has 30,000
archeological sites, 110,000 monuments and 31 Unesco World Heritage sites. Many places have one or maybe two of these elements, but only Mexico
combines all of them in one destination.”
The surge in tourism is being matched by a surge in flights from North American hubs: Continental, United Airlines and Delta have all announced plans
for additional flights to Mexican destinations, including Mexico City
[Edited on 2-15-2011 by JoeJustJoe]
[Edited on 2-16-2011 by BajaNomad]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Dennis, I usually tend to agree with you but
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It was just a back-handed comment to the lack of effort by our federal government. I know the Mexicans have no easy time of it and I don't blame the
sincere workers for doing it, as difficult as our government has made it to do it legally.
Sometimes I wish I could do it, but I'm sure it would be a felony to try.
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| Quote: | the US economic collapse (***** ** ***) and crime news (thanks to gringo appetites) have hurt tourism.
things got to change before tourism will recover, hope the federales and locals can rid the country of cartels, **********************************
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Well Said
[Edited on 2-16-2011 by BajaNomad]
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mexico is going downhill fast.
and who cares? plenty of better places to recreate and spend $$s.
after traveling extensively throughout the mainland and baja 1975 to present by car, plane, train and boat i can see the changes - they will probably
have an egyption style revolt down the road since they are so corrupt.
for me mexico is old hat and my options are changing to newer and better venues. how can you limit yourself to the same stale experiences over and
over thru the years?
too bad as for a while i had thought of early retirement in baja - not now - too many problems and no real advantage given the many excellent and
affordable destinations in USA and her territories.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by capt. mike
mexico is going downhill fast.
and who cares? not me. |
we won't miss you here.
please take you anti-mexico stance to lake havasu or sun city or wherever it is you plan to retire.
have a nice rest of your life!
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