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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
It started with the Y2K hysteria and has been nonstop 24/7 since then. Bird flu! Swine flu! Global Warming! Solar flares! By the time Dec. 21, 2012
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I'm looking forward to it. Got a date with a beautiful woman and we are going to go out in style. Use your imagination if you dare!  
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Martyman
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| Quote: | Originally posted by burnrope
One advantage of using a conventional water versus a tankless is that you'll have 30-50 gallons of potable water on hand if there's a mega quake. I
think the rule of thumb is 3 minutes without oxygen, 3 days without water and 3 weeks without food and you'll survive. I know that I'd be better off
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And three months of herb
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by burnrope
One advantage of using a conventional water versus a tankless is that you'll have 30-50 gallons of potable water on hand if there's a mega quake. I
think the rule of thumb is 3 minutes without oxygen, 3 days without water and 3 weeks without food and you'll survive. I know that I'd be better off
with a couple of weeks of not eating. |
assuming it is well-attached, and bottom is not compromised, and house does not fall down around it, and assuming you are home when the big kahuna
hits.
what if big one strikes when you are 200 miles from home and in center of yucca alley?
those YV people are inhumane, probably be drinking your blood within a day.
better keep a couple granola bars and couple gals of water in your car, and if near yucca valley some holy water to splash on the locals when they get
too close.
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Martyman
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CortezBlue
[yes like global warming, ooooooooooooops, that was Al Gore and CURRENT TV
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Have you checked the polar regions lately? Just because it's warm at your house doesn't mean its not happening.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
It started with the Y2K hysteria and has been nonstop 24/7 since then. Bird flu! Swine flu! Global Warming! Solar flares! By the time Dec. 21, 2012
rolls around people will be going bonkers. |
Got a date with a beautiful woman and we are going to go out in style. Use your imagination if you dare! |
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Bajahowodd
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
It started with the Y2K hysteria and has been nonstop 24/7 since then. Bird flu! Swine flu! Global Warming! Solar flares! By the time Dec. 21, 2012
rolls around people will be going bonkers. |
OK. Maybe I'll agree, except that was small potatoes. If you really want to look to an overriding reason that panic is so easily induced today, look
no farther than what the Bushies have done post 9/11.
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Cypress
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Bajahowodd, Blaming the "Bushies"? That's an original concept.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Bajahowodd, Blaming the "Bushies"? That's an original concept.
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Wait a sec. It's really not so much about Bush as it is about the system and the need for power. After 9/11, that administration was hellbent to grab
as much power as they could. Innumerable personal liberties and freedoms were taken from us. He got re-elected because he could use the panic, much of
which was created by color coded threat alerts and the TSA, and I could go on and on. I view it as much as anything the result of the system that has
seen sitting presidents make being reelected to a second term the number one priority.
Geez. Dontcha think it's the same motivation that has seen Obama become the third term of Bush?
Maybe a political system such as Mexico, where there is a single six year term, is actually better.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Bajahowodd, Blaming the "Bushies"? That's an original concept.
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Wait a sec. It's really not so much about Bush as it is about the system and the need for power. After 9/11, that administration was hellbent to grab
as much power as they could. Innumerable personal liberties and freedoms were taken from us. He got re-elected because he could use the panic, much of
which was created by color coded threat alerts and the TSA, and I could go on and on. I view it as much as anything the result of the system that has
seen sitting presidents make being reelected to a second term the number one priority.
Geez. Dontcha think it's the same motivation that has seen Obama become the third term of Bush?
Maybe a political system such as Mexico, where there is a single six year term, is actually better. |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KGlBHyVeYU
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Maybe? But maybe not! Comparing Obama to Bush and rating future presidential candidates to either one of them is lowering the presidential bar to
extreme levels.
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And yet, if Reagan was alive today, he'd probably fit better in the Democratic party. I get tired of so many Republicans invoking Reagan, when, in
fact, if you look at the record, so much of what Reagan did, and so much of what he espoused is way left of what the current bunch calling themselves
Republicans espouse. You can't have it both ways.
Yesterday's right is today's center.
And just to get this back on topic, ask yourself just why it is that there is so much unjustified panic in the US about nuclear fallout from the awful
disaster in Japan. Geez. Shepard Smith on Fox, just the other day berated our public for acting so foolishly.
Why are we the way we are? Maybe we've been manipulated by those in power.
We didn't get here by accident.
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Bajahowodd
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Maybe? But maybe not! Comparing Obama to Bush and rating future presidential candidates to either one of them is lowering the presidential bar to
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I wouldn't necessarily disagree with you.
Gawd! We let corporate America and inside the beltway power structure totally take over.
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Semper Paratus
ANYONE who is WORRIED over a coming Quake has got too much time on their hands or too little activity between their ears.
I liked the Geologist gal the other night who, when discussing the various "Early-Warning" systems being worked on, said that they were a waste of
time and money because the warning would never be enough. "What are you going to do with a few minutes or even an hour of warning ?" as she put it,
predicting that more people would die as a result of being warned than would have otherwise.
On the other hand, ANYBODY who doesn't maintain an adequate supply of food, water and other essentials is a FOOL.
We've always (for the last twenty years or so, anyway) maintained what we need along with an adequate supply of Arms and Ammunition (en El Norte) to
make sure we don't have to share with anyone we don't wish to.
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Ditto's..
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Bajahowodd
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
ANYONE who is WORRIED over a coming Quake has got too much time on their hands or too little activity between their ears.
I liked the Geologist gal the other night who, when discussing the various "Early-Warning" systems being worked on, said that they were a waste of
time and money because the warning would never be enough. "What are you going to do with a few minutes or even an hour of warning ?" as she put it,
predicting that more people would die as a result of being warned than would have otherwise.
On the other hand, ANYBODY who doesn't maintain an adequate supply of food, water and other essentials is a FOOL.
We've always (for the last twenty years or so, anyway) maintained what we need along with an adequate supply of Arms and Ammunition (en El Norte) to
make sure we don't have to share with anyone we don't wish to. |
I will totally concur with the beginning of your post.
But, without making any value judgments, the part about guns and ammo.... Just thinking...
I do not recall any reportage from Japan that dealt with looting or any form of violence. Given the magnitude of the tragedy, with all the dead, the
missing, and the homeless; not to mention the shortages of food and other supplies, would an event such as this, if it happened here, result in the
same level of civility? Just seems to me, for better or for worse, there is a cultural distinction here.
And before anyone would think about wimps, y'all have to remember that these were the same folks that bombed Pearl Harbor and were famed for their
Kamikaze pilots.
Just think that sociologists ought to look into this.
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Our early warning system is when I hear MrBill's guns a blazing...
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I heard from a Japanese ex-student of mine who lives in Japan- she is safe and she is donating to her compatriots.
talk about a noble thing to do.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by burnrope
One advantage of using a conventional water versus a tankless is that you'll have 30-50 gallons of potable water on hand if there's a mega quake. I
think the rule of thumb is 3 minutes without oxygen, 3 days without water and 3 weeks without food and you'll survive. I know that I'd be better off
with a couple of weeks of not eating. |
assuming it is well-attached, and bottom is not compromised, and house does not fall down around it, and assuming you are home when the big kahuna
hits.
what if big one strikes when you are 200 miles from home and in center of yucca alley?
those YV people are inhumane, probably be drinking your blood within a day.
better keep a couple granola bars and couple gals of water in your car, and if near yucca valley some holy water to splash on the locals when they get
too close. |
Better throw in some silver bullets and a sharp stake.
[Edited on 3-20-2011 by monoloco]
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MrBillM
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Bringing a Sharp Stake
To a Gun Fight ?
Sure, if you'd like.
As I've said before, nobody need worry unless they're ON my property uninvited. At that point (certainly during a disaster), the assumption would be
that they are there with bad intent. Obviously, until the point where some evidence of bad intent were displayed, they'd have the opportunity to
retreat.
Probably.
As far as the Nips being Nice to each other, THEIRS is a different society and ANYBODY who would theorize that the same rules would apply in the
U.S.S.A. is, at best, a FOOL. We've seen enough evidence to the contrary. New Orleans being the latest incident.
Everybody is Free (more or less) to make their own decisions regarding Disaster Preparedness. I've made mine and I'm comfortable with that. What
ANYBODY else thinks of it is immaterial.
Unless they come visiting.
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