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David K
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AP says it was BEFORE DAWN... so a.m. is correct! Dennis, please edit!
– Mon Apr 4, 7:45 pm ET
TIJUANA, Mexico – Two men who prosecutors identified as U.S. citizens were shot to death in their vehicle early Monday as they waited at a
Tijuana-area border crossing to enter the United States.
Prosecutors in Baja California state quote witnesses as saying a gunman approached the line of vehicles waiting at the San Ysidro border crossing and
fired into the men's pickup truck, hitting the victims in the head, arms and body.
The state Attorney General's Office says the men were U.S. citizens aged 25 and 28. The U.S. consulate in Tijuana did not immediately return phone
calls seeking confirmation. There was no immediate information on their hometowns.
Investigators said they found 9-mm shell casings at the scene. That ammunition is used in weapons favored by drug cartel gunmen in Mexico.
The shooting occurred before dawn Monday. The men's pickup had California plates. Both victims were dead by the time authorities arrived.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
AP says it was BEFORE DAWN... so a.m. is correct! Dennis, please edit!
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I would, but I don't want to chance offending the Google Translator. The Frontera article only said "Hoy." The translator made a further assumption
as to AM/PM. The machine is starting to think for itself and if that doesn't scare you, nothing will. 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by movinguy
And there were witnesses - who just watched these guys walk away (?)
No one wants to get involved . . .  |
How involved would anyone want to get with a someone who just wasted a couple of guys and still had the gun in his hand? |
I'm sure that if any nomads would have witnessed this they would have jumped out of their car and made a citizens arrest on the
spot.
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805gregg
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It's probably still safe everyone knows those shooters are good shots, no need to worry about stray bullets. And if your in the car behind them just
cover your kids eyes.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
I'm sure that if any nomads would have witnessed this they would have jumped out of their car and made a citizens arrest on the spot. |
Of course. They would show them their Sindicatura card and tell them they have some important phone numbers.
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There is also the possibility that they were following this couple, and decided they wouldn't get a chance to "hit" them after they crossed the
border. So. Bang! right there in the line. He takes off back through the line, off the roadway, and catches a cab back to his casa. Driver of car
crosses border, heads to whereever his destination is. Plot ends. No arrests. Unless, someone close by behind happens to have their camera in hand,
and provides a photo of the guy?????
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Phil S
Unless, someone close by behind happens to have their camera in hand, and provides a photo of the guy????? |
I can't figure out where their car was in relation to the gate, but if they were anywhere near it, they were on camera. You can bet on that.
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horrible occurance. and guns are illegal in Mexico ....
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaBlanca
guns are illegal in Mexico .... |
Yoo Hoo....Blanca.............It's more than likely cartel stuff. They don't mind
breaking a law or two while making a point.
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David K
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When guns are outlawed... only outlaws will have guns... 
Places with the strongest gun control laws have the highest crime levels. 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by movinguy
And there were witnesses - who just watched these guys walk away (?)
No one wants to get involved . . . |
Just like at the Dodger game.
Go Giants
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Jim/Liisa
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One thing I noticed that my local paper made no mention of this incedent, and they normally do such as the guy in the wheel chair found with concealed
marawana.
I personaly think if the two gentilmen had last names like Smith or Jones for example you would still be hearing about this.
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805gregg
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The reason country's have gun contol laws is they are doing a poor job of running that country (ie Mexico) and they fear revolution, as they should.
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I just saw a piece on TV up here in LA, and they said it was a love-triangle problem. They even interviewed a relative who seemed to confirm this.
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Relative Says Love Triangle Behind Border Shootings
http://www.10news.com/news/27446438/detail.html
April 5, 2011
SAN DIEGO -- Law enforcement officials in Mexico say they do not believe drugs were behind the shooting deaths of two American men waiting to cross
the border at San Ysidro.
U.S. Consulate spokesman Joseph L. Crook said the men were waiting in line in their vehicle early Monday almost half a mile (almost a kilometer) from
the San Ysidro crossing, one of the world's busiest ports of entry.
"Our condolences go out to their families at this difficult time," the consulate said in a statement. "We are working closely with the Mexican
authorities to ascertain all of the facts."
Marcela Romero, the aunt of 28-year-old victim Kevin Romero, said "You never expect this. There are no words to describe the pain."
According to Mexican authorities, Romero and his best friend, 25-year-old mixed martial artist Sergio Salcido Luna, were shot point-blank in the head
and chest.
Family members said Salcido and Romero lived in Tijuana to save money, but both were American and worked in San Diego.
According to Mexican authorities, the two waited to cross into the U.S. at the San Ysidro border crossing early Monday morning when an unidentified
gunman walked up and shot them.
Mexican authorities released new photos to 10News of the white pickup truck Salcido and Romero were in, which was owned by their employer.
The victims both worked for West Coast Beverage Maintenance, a business on Morena Boulevard in Bay Park. Their employer says both men were good guys
and hardworking individuals with a zest for life. They're confident the victims were not involved with drugs in any way.
Matt Pelot of West Coast Beverage Maintenance said Romero's sister called him Monday morning to tell him they had been killed.
"She just said I just wanted to let you know that Sergio and Kevin were shot and killed this morning at the border, and obviously I was taken back,"
he said. "I was in shock, and I'm still in shock. These were good guys. Obviously no one deserves to die like this, but these were good guys."
Investigators initially said one of the victims had drugs on them, but now they believe the shooting was not drug related.
Pelot said he was just thinking of promoting Romero. Romero was trying to adopt his Mexican girlfriend's son and move them to the United States
someday, while Salcido, he said, was a single guy who was born in Tijuana to U.S. citizens and grew up in Bakersfield, Calif. He said Salcido loved
martial arts and was training for an upcoming bout in Tijuana. Baja California prosecutors said Salcido had dual nationality.
"Kevin Romero didn't even drink beer," Pelot said. "These guys weren't dealing drugs, that's for sure. If Sergio was your friend, he'd give you the
shirt off his back. Kevin was the same. He was a real family oriented guy who couldn't wait to get home and take a walk on his beach with his son and
dogs."
Marcela Romero believed all along her nephew was not involved with drugs.
"He was very caring, very responsible, hardworking," she told 10News.
She said she believes the likely motive in the shooting is a love triangle gone bad that involves Salcido.
Romero said in December Salcido caught his girlfriend cheating and got into a fight with the other man. Since then, she said, the man left voicemails
and text messages threatening to kill Salcido.
Romero said she plans to take out ads in local newspapers to spread the word until her nephew's killer is caught.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Jim/Liisa
One thing I noticed that my local paper made no mention of this incedent, and they normally do such as the guy in the wheel chair found with concealed
marawana.
I personaly think if the two gentilmen had last names like Smith or Jones for example you would still be hearing about this. |
And why, exactly, would you think that? Is there an ongoing problem with people with English surnames?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
When guns are outlawed... only outlaws will have guns...
Places with the strongest gun control laws have the highest crime levels.
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Your first statement is correct, but your second is pure NRA BS. Canada has strict gun control, but lower crime than the US .... Same with most
European nations.
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Must be another factor at play with the legality of guns and the crime rate?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by 805gregg
The reason country's have gun contol laws is they are doing a poor job of running that country (ie Mexico) and they fear revolution, as they should.
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So according to this line of logic the US should have strict gun control laws, no?
Hard to think of a place being more poorly run, lol. Falling currency, real estate, trade levels. Rising unemployment, multiple war fronts. 
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The explaination being offered is that this is the result of a love triangle. I wonder how the amor-crazed shooter enlisted a friend to join him in
the murder and why there seemed to be two targets?
If I had a relative who was blown away in the streets of TJ, I'd claim crime of passion too. It's much more culturally acceptable.....almost heroic.
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