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Bob and Susan
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do not put diesel in a septic tank
it WILL ruin the system
a septic system needs air
some systems even include an air pump
vents only need to be on the toilet and sinks
(like on the roof)
not on the tank
if you have mosquitoes...there is another problem
maybe leakage...
nerver open a tank unless you HAVE to
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DENNIS
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Quote: | Originally posted by Paulclark
Mosquitos commonly breed in septic tanks ----
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Only in improperly covered tanks. No way all tanks. That's baloney.
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mcfez
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Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
I have worked as an engineer on 2 municipal sewer treatment plants in WA state, and probably have a better idea than most here what it takes to break
down solids, seperate garbage from biological waste, and treat waste water.
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are you a PE?
which engineering firm recommends adding diesel to septic tanks? please tell me, i want to make sure i blacklist them and anyone foolish enough to
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Goat must be correct. He is full of crapola all day long here. I say he is a expert on the "matter".
[Edited on 4-9-2011 by mcfez]
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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DENNIS
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Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
The only venting I've ever seen on Local Septic Tanks, including mine at various locations, have been the plumbing vent pipes on the house themselves.
Never ADDED anything to the tanks, Never a problem over 35 years and never a Mosquito. |
And that's the way it should be.
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BajaGringo
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Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
the best solution is to pour about a 1/2 cup of diesel fuel into the septic tank. it forms a thin film over the water, that makes it impossible for
mosquitos to breed.
[Edited on 4-9-2011 by fishabductor] |
Probably not a good idea. It will have a negative impact on the aerobic bacteria colony living in your septic tank both by depleting available oxygen
and coating the discharged solids, making them much more difficult to break down in the system by the same bacteria.
There is a reason why all municipal wastewater districts put strict limits on oil and grease content of wasterwater discharged to the sewer. Based on
your stated experience, that is something you should really know.
I have lived in homes with septic systems for a major part of my life and have never witnessed the mosquito problem. Not saying it couldn't happen,
but...
[Edited on 4-10-2011 by BajaGringo]
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DENNIS
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What a bunch of sht.
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BajaGringo
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Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
What a bunch of sht. |
The mosquito problem or the negative impact of diesel???
[Edited on 4-10-2011 by BajaGringo]
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mcfez
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When I was young on Saturday nights...I'd be doing the town.
Now.....I just sit here and read about poop all night
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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DENNIS
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Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
The mosquito problem or the negative impact of diesel???
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Everything. It's one of those days.
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BajaGringo
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Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Everything. It's one of those days.
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Sorry to hear that bud. Next round is on me...
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mulegemichael
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and cypress....actually, septic/sewer systems are best when they act in the "aerobic" class...not anaerobic...the microbes that break down our waste
need air or "oxygen" to work...without the beneficial microbes your septic tank would become very very stinky...and you wouldn't like it...back when i
was a ranger, we would have to go out to the backcountry pit toilets and dump in packets of inert beneficial microbes...with the heat and the moisture
that they would then encounter, they would joyfully then start munching up on the goodness of our bodily waste and keep your/our septic system working
with hardly having to work..all that poop, with a little luck, would be consumed in a short time period...as long as someone didn't come along and
dump some diesel in it...oh wow!!
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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wessongroup
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Go watch some Rockford Files.. and see how the "Valley" and the "freeways" looked in 1975... vacant land all over the place... really a time warp...
watch out, ya might see some "green flashes"...
Damn, can't believe used to think it was crowded back then...
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Bugman
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The same species of mosquito that transmits West Nile virus among other viuruses is very happy breeding in the organic paradise that is a septic tank.
If they have any access at all they will find their way in and begin breeding so please screen off those vents with fine mesh material. They did a
study up in Orange County California to see how far mosquitoes would fly through a narrow pipe to get to a stagnant water source and they ran out of
pipe (over 100') before they found the limit they would fly. Don't underestimate these little buggers!
PS I work for a large mosquito control program so this is the kind of stuff I deal with everyday.
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Those were the Days !
As a matter of fact,YES, it did seem crowded back in those (Rockford ?) days and before. IF we'd only KNOWN.
Speaking of which, last night I was watching the first episodes of Richard Kimble on the run in '63.
For those who'd like a look back on L.A. when it was still a decent town, try "My Gun is Quick" (1957). Typical Mediocre B-Movie BUT LOTS of outdoor
L.A. and Long Beach footage. A kick for anyone (like myself) who grew up in the area at the time.
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Jim/Liisa
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They enter and exit thrugh your vent pipe. If you think you don't have one your realy looking for trouble.
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Cypress
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Wastewater sytems are usually vented through the roofs of homes.
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Jim/Liisa
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Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Wastewater sytems are usually vented through the roofs of homes.
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And? [Edited on 02-05-2011 by Jim/Liisa]
[Edited on 02-05-2011 by Jim/Liisa]
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sharktooth
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Great info bugman -
ALSO - i am not a septic expert, but MY house in california has 2 different vents for the septic.
1: multiple vents on the roof of my house
2: a vent pipe coming out of the ground near my septic tank
My septic lid is totally buried in soil, but their is a vent pipe a few feet from the tank sticking out of the ground.
Not sure if this is typical - but the studies I have read advise to screen - ALL VENTS - the roof vents and the ground septic vents (if you have
them).
And yes, it is the nasty mosquitos (west nile, dengue, etc transimitters) that prefer septic systems.
So do yourself and your neighbors a favor and screen all vents to be safe. Less than $5 material (screen and hose clamps) and an hour or less of work
could make a big difference!
don't fall off your roof or into your tank! - cheers
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Cypress
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Jim/Liisa, And the methane gas is dispersed into the air.
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Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Jim/Liisa, And the methane gas is dispersed into the air. |
If you eat enough beans, you could instal one of those eternal flames on your roof, like a refinery?
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