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DENNIS
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That boat in the fotos looked like one of those Asian Ferrys that are so prone to tragedy for overloading.
Hope and pray for whatever the best may be.
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MrBillM
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Going DOWN in Baja
When they thought of "Going down to the Sea in Ships", they PROBABLY didn't anticipate this.
Looking at the pics of the vessel, maybe, they should have.
Having gone fishing many times in (long) past years aboard Party-Boats out of Point Loma, the one time I was aboard same out of San Felipe, I wasn't
impressed with the quality of maintenance displayed.
That was a lot of years back, but I've never gone again.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
When they thought of "Going down to the Sea in Ships", they PROBABLY didn't anticipate this.
Looking at the pics of the vessel, maybe, they should have.
Having gone fishing many times in (long) past years aboard Party-Boats out of Point Loma, the one time I was aboard same out of San Felipe, I wasn't
impressed with the quality of maintenance displayed.
That was a lot of years back, but I've never gone again. |
It's a very sad and terrifying situation.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
When they thought of "Going down to the Sea in Ships", they PROBABLY didn't anticipate this.
Looking at the pics of the vessel, maybe, they should have.
Having gone fishing many times in (long) past years aboard Party-Boats out of Point Loma, the one time I was aboard same out of San Felipe, I wasn't
impressed with the quality of maintenance displayed.
That was a lot of years back, but I've never gone again. |
the point loma flet is well maintained, relative to mexican fleet, because it needs to pass CG inspection.
sometimes big government and nanny state is good.
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GrOUper-GAr
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In the late 80's, my Brother was part of a small crew of friends that delivered the ERIK (then called the 'Nordvarder'-sp?) from the Netherlands to
San Felipe. The Trip was a good couple months. -from Amsterdam, down to the Canery Islands, across the atlantic, thru the Panama Canal, and up wind,
all the way to San Felipe. (many stops along the way, of coarse)... They said it was an incredible life experience, and the stories (& old video
tape) showed it.
Since then, many spirited fishing trips aboard the ERIK followed.
..and maybe, just maybe, SOME "F!Sh $Tories" have been a LITTLe bit exaggerated.
BUT,
one thing is for sure,
THAT BOAT hit some mind boggling heavy seas in the Atlantic, and lived to tell about it.
R.I.P.
(thanks for the memories)
! PrEFeRiR!A eSTaR eN baJa !
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bufeo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by GrOUper-GAr
In the late 80's, my Brother was part of a small crew of friends that delivered the ERIK (then called the 'Nordvarder'-sp?) from the Netherlands to
San Felipe. ... |
This would be a good voyage to re-tell in some manner. Has your brother ever put the experience down on paper (or "e-type" :rolleyes ?
Allen R.
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sancho
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As Pescador says, that boat is not a T Reyes boat,
Reyes has 2, I believe, a recent boat renamed the
Tony Reyes and the boat they have long owned
the Jose Andres. Anyone remember the story 10 yrs
back or so, about a fishing boat out of San Felipe who
lost a panga with 2 gringo fisherman and a panga guide?
One of the Gringos died after they were stranded on one of the Islands for a few days? That incident was also not a
T Reyes boat
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jessk
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If anyone has any news on those last few missing, please let me know. My boyfriend's father was on that boat.
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BajaBlanca
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this is a very sad day indeed. hopefully others will be found soon - as mentioned, the water is really a comfortable temperature. always an adventure
here in Baja, isn't it ?
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BajaGringo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jessk
If anyone has any news on those last few missing, please let me know. My boyfriend's father was on that boat. |
Sending along our prayers that his dad is OK...
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bajabound2005
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update from abcnews
One U.S. man has died and seven others are still
missing, six Americans and one Mexican crew
member, after a chartered fishing boat carrying 44
people capsized in a storm off of Mexico's Baja
California peninsula, the Mexican navy said today.
Nineteen of the tourists, all men mostly from the San
Francisco Bay Area in northern California, were found
alive, as were 16 Mexican crew members, said Capt.
Benjamin Pineda Gomez in the Baja California port of
San Felipe.
All those who were rescued were taken to a clinic,
then to their hotel in San Felipe, and said to be in
"good condition" with minor scrapes and sunburn.
One diabetic survivor was taken to a naval hospital in
San Felipe, said civil protection director Alfredo
Escobedo Ortiz.
The U.S. tourist who died has not been identified.
Michael Ng a survivor from Belmont, California, told
the Associated Press the boat was less than two miles
from shore when it capsized. He and other fishermen
stayed afloat with the help of a cooler. They were
swimming toward shore when he, a fellow survivor
and the boat's cook were rescued by another fishing
boat.
In a press release, the Mexican navy said aid was
possible because the cook, who after being rescued
by a fisherman, was able to alert authorities that the
boat had gone down.The rescue missing is still
ongoing.
"I'm relieved I'm alive, but I'm scared for the people
who haven't been found yet," he said. "We were not
very far from shore, so people were beached or
stranded on some local islands."
The 115-foot-long boat, a catamaran called the Erik
operated by the tourism company Baja Fishing, was
carrying 17 crew and 27 American fishermen on what
was supposed to be a week-long trip when it was
caught in a thunderstorm and capsized around 2:30
a.m. Sunday. Pineda said two giant waves hit the boat,
causing it to tip over.
"When the vessel sank it was close enough to shore
that some people were able to swim to shore," said U.
S. Coast Guard Petty Officer Pamela Boehland. "Other
people were picked up by good Samaritan vessels that
were in the area. Others were rescued by the Mexican
Navy."
The boat, which had embarked from San Felipe,
capsized about 60 miles south of the port city, Baja
California Civil Protection Director Alfredo Escobedo
Ortiz told The Associated Press.
No one knew of the accident until Sunday afternoon,
when another fishing boat rescued three people.
Other reports said that at least one passenger swam
ashore to get help.
U.S. Consulate General in Tijuana, Mexico released a
statement saying their staff had met with all surviving
Americans at a hotel in San Felipe and they were
working with Mexican officials to provide return
transportation back to the U.S. for the American
survivors.
"We have been in touch with families of some but not
all of the missing Americans," the statement said.
According to an Internet advertisement, the Erik has
been operating in the Sea of Cortez since 1989 and
can sleep up to 42 guests.
Friends don't let friends drink white zinfandel.
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bajalou
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Emails from the area tell me that all are found. The 1 death was from a heart attack.
No Bad Days
\"Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference\"
\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
Nomad Baja Interactive map
And in the San Felipe area - check out Valle Chico area |
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DutchmanAZ
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I fished on the Erik a few years ago, and I have to say the boat wasn't ship shape from my perspective, and the crew (also, IMO) was lacking as well.
Very shoddy ran operation, although we did catch fish and returned safely. And to echo others on here, the Erik is not a Tony Reyes operation, but I
belive a person by the name of Gustavo ran this particular operation.
I fished out of the Tony Reyes in late May of this year, and felt safe the whole time - an overall better ran operation, crew, and ship. Just
throwing this out for those who may reconsider a trip they have booked, and I'm just a happy customer of Tony's.
FWIW
[Edited on 7-4-2011 by DutchmanAZ]
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DutchmanAZ
I fished on the Erik a few years ago, and I have to say the boat wasn't ship shape from my perspective, and the crew (also, IMO) was lacking as well.
Very shoddy ran operation, although we did catch fish and returned safely. |
Nomads are interesting. Often they shrug and say, "oh, that's just Mexico,..." as they explain their acceptance of graft, corruption, DWI, local
("substandard") building practices, etc. Other times they judge Mexico by USA standards.
The early reports are that the boat got hit by a strong squall and rogue wave. Perhaps even a USCG-approved fishing charter would have been knocked
on it's side too.
You knock a boat on it's side, and doors happen to be open, any boat might sink, regardless of amount of rust.
Will have to wait a few days for the rest of the story.
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MrBillM
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Perhaps ?
Now, THERE'S a Subjective Standard.
In the land of "Perhaps" ANYTHING "might" happen.
PERHAPS Aliens.
Who knows ?
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DutchmanAZ
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Well goat - I must say you may be correct. In the worst condtions, anything will sink. However, I stand by my comments regarding the condition of
the vessel. Of course, I have no idea if the condition of the vessel (0r the captain for that matter) contributed to its demise.
[Edited on 7-4-2011 by DutchmanAZ]
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freediverbrian
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wind
Looked at the wind for gonzaga , about midnight on july 2 the wind spiked from 10 mph to 30 mph switching from the north to the east . what time did
the boat go down?
[Edited on 7-4-2011 by freediverbrian]
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baja1943
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whats going on? The first thread on this subject comes in around 5am. Than a second comes in a hour later. Then McFez enters the picture without
reading previous thread and comments on something that has already been explained. but mcfez being the king of SF has to be the predominant provider
of information. Then DutchmanAZ shows up 4hrs previous to the first thread and the other threads are deleted. Why?
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BillP
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| Quote: | Originally posted by baja1943
whats going on? The first thread on this subject comes in around 5am. Than a second comes in a hour later. Then McFez enters the picture without
reading previous thread and comments on something that has already been explained. but mcfez being the king of SF has to be the predominant provider
of information. Then DutchmanAZ shows up 4hrs previous to the first thread and the other threads are deleted. Why? |
All the threads were merged into one in chronological order. Dutchman's post must have been down on the fishing board as I checked the main and news
boards before I posted at 5.
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bajaday
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We are half way between SF and Puertocitos. Helicopters have been going by all day, I assume picking up and transporting survivors. The last copter
went by heading south about 1/2 hour ago...very sad it took so long to begin a rescue.
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