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BajaBruno
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Woooosh, certainly some jurisdictions in Mexico do have that far to go, but not the majority. We don't have to look as far back as the 1930's to see
corruption in the U.S. The 1994 Mollen report on corruption in the N.Y. Police Dept. (it should be available online) describes police thefts from
street drug dealers, thefts from illegal searches, off-duty robberies, cops protecting drug couriers, perjury, and falsification of documents.
The New Orleans PD is currently under federal supervision (at the request of the mayor) because of wide-spread corruption in that force.
The late 1990's LAPD Rampart Division scandal had cops shooting unarmed suspects, planting guns, stealing and then reselling drugs, one bank robbery,
at least one murder for hire, and the protection of drug dealers. This sort of misconduct makes traffic stop shakedowns seem pretty tame.
These examples would seem to counter my theory that increasing salaries and training will work to prevent abuses, but it all takes time and vigorous
supervision to minimize corruption, just as it did in the U.S.
Dennis makes the excellent point that we Vietnam era veterans were paid very poorly, but he leaves out that there was corruption in the military as
well. Petty, and sometimes grand theft were rampant in the military I knew, and alcoholism, drug use and abuse of authority in war zones were common.
Military pay is much better now, but I have no idea whether these traits are more or less frequent.
I think there is hope for Mexico and the last two presidents have made great strides in the right direction. Only time will tell if those efforts
bear fruit.
Christopher Bruno, Elk Grove, CA.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaBruno
J.P., a bit off topic, but you may be interested to know that San Diego PD has about 2,000 officers and their Citizen's [complaint] Review Board
received a total of (only) 32 separate citizen's complaint cases for 2009. Only one of those complaints was sustained. Even with the low crime rate
of San Diego, that is an enviable record.
They seem to blown those stats. out of the tub this year. |
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J.P.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaBruno
J.P., a bit off topic, but you may be interested to know that San Diego PD has about 2,000 officers and their Citizen's [complaint] Review Board
received a total of (only) 32 separate citizen's complaint cases for 2009. Only one of those complaints was sustained. Even with the low crime rate
of San Diego, that is an enviable record.
Dennis, I understand your pessimism, but I think that if you look at the history of U.S. police corruption, you would see some parallels to the
current situation in Mexico. We got better, though not perfect, and Mexico can do the same. |
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