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Gypsy Jan
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Last Week in the Ready Lane Going to the U.S.
At the Otay border crossing, the car ahead of us was detained for approximately twenty minutes.
The officer raw-jawed the driver, opened up the doors and trunk and ducked down to inspect the undercarriage.
Then he passed the car and driver through.
Why? The driver had a passport book that did not have the RFID feature.
The officer told us that he could have chosen to turn the car back.
It is my understanding that if you have the newer Passport books that have the RFID embedded, you can use the Ready Lanes, no problem and no Passport
Card needed.
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
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\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
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willardguy
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my first attempt with the ready lane was christmas day(sy)and it took forever to get thru. the problem was folks in the wrong lane. I dont know how
they go about sending someone back into mexico but would'nt it be great if they just went to secondary(for a learning session) and let everyone else
pass? of course these agents working on christmas day could give a ratzass. I get that!
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MsTerieus
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Yep. Part II.
Your quote says acceptable passes "INCLUDE" the list. It does not exclude newer passports with a chip. I am willing to bet that the newer passport
book w/chip IS acceptable. Bet you a drink, Terry ...
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MsTerieus
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Willardguy: Here is ONE way that dummies going through wrong lanes learn. It happened to me, at the Otay Mesa crossing: I could not find the
regular lanes and landed in the SENTRI lane w/out a SENTRI pass. I could not get out so had to wait 20-30 minutes to get to the front. There, I
apologized profusely, promised it would never happen again, kissed ass, etc., etc.  They made me go to secondary. I waited and waited. Eventually, my car was searched and sniffed thoroughly. I waited and waited some more,
watching many, many folks who had been sent to secondary after me leave for the U.S. About 2 hours after I arrived at secondary, they finally waved
me on.
Obviously, they made me wait so long to ensure that I never tried to use the wrong lane again. (I certainly won't do it again, at least not on
purpose. Then again, I did not do it on purpose the first time!)
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willardguy
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now that makes sense. Ive been told second offenders face huge fines. any truth to that? anyone?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MsTerieus
Your quote says acceptable passes "INCLUDE" the list. It does not exclude newer passports with a chip. I am willing to bet that the newer passport
book w/chip IS acceptable. Bet you a drink, Terry ... |
Go ahead and try it..........that's why I have SENTRI
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Please click on the links below and read............::...: ....... ...
http://travel.state.gov/passport/ppt_card/ppt_card_3926.html
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=56982#pid6798...
Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
the passport book with rfid can be used in ready lane, but text is not clear as mud
Quote:
What documents can I use to enter the Ready Lane?
WHTI-compliant, RFID-enabled cards approved by the Department of Homeland Security include: the U.S. Passport Book and Card; the
Enhanced Driver's License (EDL); the Enhanced Tribal Card (ETC); Trusted Traveler Cards (NEXUS, SENTRI and FAST cards); the new Enhanced Permanent
Resident Card (PRC) or new Border Crossing Card (BCC).
SENTRI and NEXUS lanes are reserved strictly for the use of SENTRI and NEXUS card holders.
All travelers in the vehicle over the age of 16 must have an RFID-enabled card to use the Ready Lane. Children 15 years old and younger may travel in
the Ready Lane with adult travelers if all adults in the vehicle have an RFID-enabled travel card.
U.S. Passport Cards can be obtained through the Department of State.
NEXUS/SENTRI/FAST cards can be obtained through CBP at www.CBP.gov.
Enhanced Driver's Licenses (EDL) can be obtained from a local DMV or government office in the states of New York, Washington, Vermont, and Michigan,
as well as in the Canadian provinces of Ontario, British Columbia, Quebec, and Manitoba. Note: If you applied and are waiting for the EDL, the receipt
or temporary notice you may have received is NOT a valid travel document.
need a guinea pig to try it out at san ysidro xing
[Edited on 12-20-2011 by mtgoat666]
Thanks goat..... That clears some stuff up. I had a feeling the passport RFID book would be accepted. Well I just got back from the post office and
express mailing my app. for the card. So now I'll be covered with both Sentri and passport card..........
[Edited on 1-7-12 by KASHEYDOG]
Don\'t mess with the old dog...... Age and skill will always overcome youth and treachery! Brilliance only comes with age and
experience.....  ....  ....
Are you getting the most out of life OR is life getting the most out of you ?? 
Twenty years from now you\'ll be more disappointed by the things you didn\'t do then the things you did.
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KASHEYDOG
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I guess the key words here are "as instructed. "
This really isn't rocket science.........
Here is the link to the necessary form....
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/79960.pdf
Follow instructions, use black ink only to fill out the form, include your passport get your card and passport back in less then 2
weeks;.... ........
BTW... Don't forget your check for the appropriate fees and your passport size pictures. Make sure your return address is enclosed. Put the
correct amount of postage on the envelope. Mail it in the USA. .....
[Edited on 1-7-12 by KASHEYDOG]
Don\'t mess with the old dog...... Age and skill will always overcome youth and treachery! Brilliance only comes with age and
experience..... .... ....
Are you getting the most out of life OR is life getting the most out of you ??
Twenty years from now you\'ll be more disappointed by the things you didn\'t do then the things you did.
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DENNIS
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Does the passport agency send your documents back with protected mailing? Certified....registered?
Last time I renewed my passport, I never received it in the mail and that really opened up a can of worms for me. They were sending them through the
mail like they were post cards. Has that changed?
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KASHEYDOG
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Hi, Dennis..... .
Got mine back in a plain brown envelope. Padded and unmarked. ....
Don\'t mess with the old dog...... Age and skill will always overcome youth and treachery! Brilliance only comes with age and
experience..... .... ....
Are you getting the most out of life OR is life getting the most out of you ??
Twenty years from now you\'ll be more disappointed by the things you didn\'t do then the things you did.
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KASHEYDOG
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One more little tid bit....... .... Even though my passport expires in
2016 the pass card came back with an expiration date of Dec. 2021 So they made it good for ten years....... ......Works for me......
Don\'t mess with the old dog...... Age and skill will always overcome youth and treachery! Brilliance only comes with age and
experience..... .... ....
Are you getting the most out of life OR is life getting the most out of you ??
Twenty years from now you\'ll be more disappointed by the things you didn\'t do then the things you did.
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MsTerieus
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
| Quote: | Originally posted by MsTerieus
Your quote says acceptable passes "INCLUDE" the list. It does not exclude newer passports with a chip. I am willing to bet that the newer passport
book w/chip IS acceptable. Bet you a drink, Terry ... |
Go ahead and try it..........that's why I have SENTRI |
(1) I CAN'T "go ahead and try it, Terry: I do not have a "newer passport book."
(2) BS: That is NOT "why [you] have SENTRI," and you know it.
(3) What's wrong, chicken to accept my offer to bet? (I'll prove my point by pointing you to a Government source that specifies it, if and when the
source is published.)
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SENTRI
I have SENTRI so I don't have to screw around in line with everybody else and waste 2 hours of my time crossing the border.
I also tried the Ready Lane, one time it was about 18 minutes when it first opened in Otay, then the it got to be an hour, and the Ready Lane access
is a mess........
The money spent on SENTRI is worth it to me, and that's why I have it............
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Roberto
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
Can't use the Passport book in the Ready Lane, only the Passport Card. |
I don't care one way or the other, as I have SENTRI, for the same reasons you do. I cross 2-3 times a week for business and it would not be possible
for me to conduct same without one.
That said, we used the RFID Passport in the ready lane. Not once, but twice. Once at San Ysidro, once at Otay. Once with my wife, once with my son.
Guard told me it was ok. Maybe they were both wrong, but there it is.
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MsTerieus
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Thanks, Roberto!
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nbacc
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Used our card in Ready Lane for the first time on Thurs. Hard to tell if it was faster as there was not much of a wait. At the East crossing (El
Centro) it is clearly marked which lane to go to although knowing to get in the far lef thand lane before entering made it much easier to be in the
right place. the only problem is the the "lane" for ready pass does not start until you are into the line a ways............go left if you are using
El Cento East gate!!!!!!!!! nancy
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KASHEYDOG
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BORDER WAIT TIMES @ 10 AM DEC. 8th Sunday
Wait times ........10 AM
http://apps.cbp.gov/bwt/
San Ysidro: Standard lane... 50 min ../.. Ready ...20 min min.../..Sentri....2 min.
Otay Mesa: Standard............20 min..../...Ready...5 min....../.... Sentri.....5 min
http://apps.cbp.gov/bwt/
Don\'t mess with the old dog...... Age and skill will always overcome youth and treachery! Brilliance only comes with age and
experience..... .... ....
Are you getting the most out of life OR is life getting the most out of you ??
Twenty years from now you\'ll be more disappointed by the things you didn\'t do then the things you did.
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