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[*] posted on 1-31-2012 at 02:37 PM


I have a folding knife in all my vehicles with about a 3 or 4 inch blade. It also has the razor blade cutting section to cut the seat belts and a sharpe pointy thing to break glass. At one of the military check points one of the soldiers saw it and commented how impressed he was with it.
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[*] posted on 1-31-2012 at 02:44 PM


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Originally posted by Mengano
Quote:
Originally posted by paranewbi
I drive through Tecate all the time...drive back also. No problems

But I guess Mengano knows better from his chair


you have the personal guarantee of paranewbi and the anthropologist, and the other enablers here, that nothing, I repeat, nothing will happen to you in Tecate. And if by some odd chance something does happen to you in Tecate, they will have that time-honored fallback position which states that THEY have gone there and NOTHING ever happened to THEM. So YOU must be some kind of a phu**up. That should make you feel much, much better.


So, men-Guano, you are willing to GUARANTEE that NOTHING will EVER happen to whomever, wherever he/she might live in the US if they have the good sense to not travel south of the border?

Where on your birth certificate does it say your life came with guarantees of safety? Do things go wrong (in Baja, elsewhere in Mexico, or anywhere else)? Of course, sometimes. But overcoming those difficulties is part of that Grand Advanture called "Life." You should go out and get some of that, before it passes you by while you live holed-up in your little safety-room-with-Internet-hookup somewhere in Greater USA, counting beans.

[Edited on 1-31-2012 by Bajatripper]

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[*] posted on 1-31-2012 at 02:52 PM


Griff....I would stay away from Mengano if I were you. Danger lurks there
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[*] posted on 1-31-2012 at 02:57 PM


I agree with paranewbi and Bajatripper.

Griff,

Mengano hates Mexico. Just know that everything he posts stems from his hatred of Mexico.




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[*] posted on 1-31-2012 at 03:15 PM


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So when somebody suggests that things are not quite kosher in Tecate, you just do like any good BajaNomad would do: challenge that person and suggest he does not know anything and never goes to Mexico anyway.


Well, was I right, or was I right? Notice how neither, Stevie, Ateo nor pararnewbi can address the issue of Tecate and rip-offs from the cops.

It is all about ME now.

p.s. Steve. You cannot debate by asking questions. You debate a subject by stating your position and providing facts that support it and/or facts that disprove your opponent's position. You have yet to demonstrate that you can even put together a cogent argument about the subject matter of this thread. Now, are you prepared to argue your position with reference to some verifiable information -- e.g. not reference to apocryphal statements from somebody that they have been driving for 20 years and nothing happened to them.

Trying to debate the safety of Tecate by referring to the safety, or lack thereof, in some other city in some other country is also not a valid argument. That is a red herring. Introducing irrelevant information to sidetrack the argument.

Here you go, study this:

How to debate a point.

[Edited on 1-31-2012 by Mengano]
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[*] posted on 1-31-2012 at 03:33 PM


Where would Mengano cross into Mexico? Would you stay a nite in Ensenada or push on to El Rosario? Is your camping preference Santa Ines or out in the boulders? Nothing to offer our newbie. Go back to Off Topic if you just are looking for an argument. Tio
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[*] posted on 1-31-2012 at 03:41 PM


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Where would Mengano cross into Mexico? Would you stay a nite in Ensenada or push on to El Rosario? Is your camping preference Santa Ines or out in the boulders? Nothing to offer our newbie. Go back to Off Topic if you just are looking for an argument. Tio


Ummm. You did read the title of this thread, didn't you? If you didn't here it is again: "Safety on solo trip"

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[*] posted on 1-31-2012 at 03:43 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by Mengano
Quote:
Originally posted by Mengano
So when somebody suggests that things are not quite kosher in Tecate, you just do like any good BajaNomad would do: challenge that person and suggest he does not know anything and never goes to Mexico anyway.


Well, was I right, or was I right? Notice how neither, Stevie, Ateo nor pararnewbi can address the issue of Tecate and rip-offs from the cops.

It is all about ME now.

p.s. Steve. You cannot debate by asking questions. You debate a subject by stating your position and providing facts that support it and/or facts that disprove your opponent's position. You have yet to demonstrate that you can even put together a cogent argument about the subject matter of this thread. Now, are you prepared to argue your position with reference to some verifiable information -- e.g. not reference to apocryphal statements from somebody that they have been driving for 20 years and nothing happened to them.

Trying to debate the safety of Tecate by referring to the safety, or lack thereof, in some other city in some other country is also not a valid argument. That is a red herring. Introducing irrelevant information to sidetrack the argument.

Here you go, study this:

How to debate a point.

[Edited on 1-31-2012 by Mengano]


Listen, Manguano, I am sure that whatever Asperger-y variation grips you makes your every point/counterpoint seem perfectly airtight and logical. And maybe you have a few salient notes here and there re:the nature of a true debate. Your mistake comes in making those points here. Sure, we engage in a bit of (typically) friendly back and forth, but once things get micro on a "this is HOW to argue" level, most Nomads will check out. Or hate you.

So thank you for the instructional link - I'll check it when I have the time (or interest) - and please continue to chime in with your vast Baja-related knowledge, but let's put the "no folks, THIS is how you argue" soapboxing to bed (or take it on over to www.selfrighteous******bags.com).

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[*] posted on 1-31-2012 at 04:16 PM


Griff, Go you'll be fine. Not to take issue with folks on this board up a lot of them have not traveled south in many months. So the advice might not be up to speed in some cases. Use your own good judgement. I have done a number of solo trips and always enjoyed myself. Most of the major surf spots will have surfers on them. Go and have fun.

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[*] posted on 1-31-2012 at 05:01 PM
Listen, Manguano


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:


There are many Americans..French..Canadian...so forth

That travel to Baja each day. That's 1000's a day. To travel alone...do take DavidK's advise. That's straight dope there.

I myself travel mostly on the Sea of Cortez side of Baja.....fish...camp...hike...alone ...............many times. Have yet to seen any real issues.

Baja is great...we have investments down ...just like a lot of BN's here.

Manguano just hates anything to do with Baja......Mexico...or McFez. He hates all three. Dont listen this off the wall stuff he pushes.

Go. Have a blast.

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[*] posted on 1-31-2012 at 05:49 PM


Griff. Ignore most if not all of the posters here. Yhey could care less about you. They really post to further their own agenda (on both sides of this contest). If you want to go. go/ Please be careful
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[*] posted on 1-31-2012 at 07:38 PM


I think you will be fine on your own crossing at San Ysidro. There have been some problems but for the most part everybody manages to make it. But, if your having some reservations about it then post on the companion/convoy forum here and maybe you can hook up with someone and at least get over the border and down a ways with someone that knows the ropes. Good luck and have a great time!
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[*] posted on 1-31-2012 at 08:12 PM


Thanks everyone! I really appreciate all the input. Again, I have my heart set on going, so this is less of a "should I stay or should I go?" conversation rather than a "what precautions should I take?" conversation. I did not realize that there was a companion/convoys forum, hopefully I can find some buddies to at least cross the border with. I am super excited, I will let you all know how it goes!
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[*] posted on 1-31-2012 at 08:18 PM


Here's a link to convoy companions:

http://forums.bajanomad.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=14




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[*] posted on 1-31-2012 at 09:41 PM


Back on topic...my piece would be that stuff could happen. If you are willing to risk a little then, CAREFULLY get to El Rosario with as little contact with anyone as possible. You may lack the negotiating skills/street smarts Baja can require to avoid even the little bunco annoyances so common nearer the border. South of there I always feel better about any form of predation. Shake hands with everyone, smile, don't talk too loud, try to speak as little English as possible unless you're hangin' with homies.

At most Federale check points one of the first questions will be: "May we search your vehicle?" The appropriate answer is: "Claro que si". They seem to really like Claro que si. The next question is often: "Do you have any guns, drugs, or explosives?" It is critically important, if your Spanish skills are poor, to not be confused and use the same answer! :lol::lol::lol:


Another piece on the Mengano thing...This is a very popular board with 7000 members, many of those members are members of other clubs and boards. Of all the hundreds of thousands of tourist miles traveled by these people in Mexico, and by their friends, not to mention the ex-pats, I judge that VERY few out-of-the-ordinary acts of graft and corruption go unreported here.

We hear it all. And it is just enough to make ME more vigilant.


[Edited on 2-1-2012 by vgabndo]




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[*] posted on 1-31-2012 at 10:27 PM


The advice to get to El Rosario quickly is good. If you have ample time in Baja - and it sounds like you - you should spend it in the best places and the best (Pacific Coast wise) are S of El Rosario. In fact most Nomads will say that's where Baja actually starts. There are pretty places N of there - and plenty of good waves - but, esp.solo - not worth it. Cross early at San Ysidro, put your head down and gun for El Rosario aka "The Big Turn."

You'll be fine at checkpoints...assuming you don't have anything (don't bring anything illegal). Just get out of your car if they ask you do and smile a lot.

You're gonna effing LOVE IT down there. Once you get out to lesser-traveled roads, it's heaven. A good book, some fishing gear and maybe a little NW swell and you're in business (hint: many of the spots down there are low tide spots...plan accordingly)

One more thing... It is COLD at night. Way colder than you think. Bring a good parka.
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[*] posted on 1-31-2012 at 11:45 PM


just returned from a 5 day solo trip. weather was perfect, surf was epic 2 days, calico-halibut-sheephead were killing themselves, oh-and a military guy tried to tell me he found a pot seed in my carpet. i told him to get a lighter and burn it and if it smelled like weed he could have my truck. he burnt it, and let me drive away. be careful of those guys!



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[*] posted on 2-1-2012 at 12:27 AM


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Originally posted by woody with a view..... i told him to get a lighter and burn it and if it smelled like weed he could have my truck. he burnt it, and let me drive away. be careful of those guys!


Woody, Ya gotta sweep the floor mats better:lol:

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[*] posted on 2-1-2012 at 06:49 AM


Mengano

Whatever number of citations you can point to of the dangers of Tecate...you will not find the thousands of time I have transit, dwelt, worked with orphans, and yes even got married, in Tecate in your statistics. When I see your relatively few citations compared to my own personal experiance and then consider I am not that unique as this website shows, then your case is weakened by experiance which is the most reliable of all indicators...it's called self validation from the perspective of participation, not from one's own couch.
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[*] posted on 2-1-2012 at 06:53 AM


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