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RIP,, so sad news
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Found in San Luis Gonzaga Poblado
According to Maggie's Madness, the article that was published in El Vigia this afternoon reported that the body of a male, most likely Frank Wheeler,
was found in San Luis Gonzaga Poblado. From what I located on the satellite map it looks like a bay about 75 miles south of San Felipe. El Vigia
states there will be more on the story in the morning edition. Below is the link to the location. Any of you know if a chubasco would have most
likely blown the kayak in this direction?
http://www.dices.net/mapas/mexico/mapa.php?nombre=Bahia-San-...
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woody with a view
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75 miles of drift for a body that is low to the water and doesn't act like a sail in the wind is not probable. gonzaga is probably a large area, not
just the bay proper, but still, 75 miles????
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Unfortunately
It WAS the expected outcome.
Disappearance under those conditions and location wasn't likely to turn out any differently.
Another (unneeded) reminder that the Sea can be VERY unforgiving.
As we are ALL aware, but through complacency and good fortune often forget, the Sea of Cortez is extremely unpredictable. A good day can go bad in
relatively few minutes.
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rts551
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How sad.
Guys, read more carefully
>According to the initial reports of the Secretary of the Public Municipal Security at 5:30 in the evening, he reoorted in Puertocitos delegation
that there had been their deserted vehicle in the tourist camp Huerfanito (little Orphan) at the 103 kilometer marker on the Puertecitos Chapala
highway."
They did not drift for 75 miles.
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Wow, what a sad story. May they RIP! And, anyone who kayaks can learn some lessons here.
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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Via con Dos, Amigos
I am so sorry for the loss to the family.
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\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
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From KM 103 to San Luis Gonzaga Poblado
How far is that distance by sea in a kayak? I am not out that way so I have no idea... | Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
How sad.
Guys, read more carefully
>According to the initial reports of the Secretary of the Public Municipal Security at 5:30 in the evening, he reoorted in Puertocitos delegation
that there had been their deserted vehicle in the tourist camp Huerfanito (little Orphan) at the 103 kilometer marker on the Puertecitos Chapala
highway."
They did not drift for 75 miles. |
[Edited on 4-11-2012 by EnsenadaDr]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
How far is that distance by sea in a kayak? I am not out that way so I have no idea... | Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
How sad.
Guys, read more carefully
>According to the initial reports of the Secretary of the Public Municipal Security at 5:30 in the evening, he reoorted in Puertocitos delegation
that there had been their deserted vehicle in the tourist camp Huerfanito (little Orphan) at the 103 kilometer marker on the Puertecitos Chapala
highway."
They did not drift for 75 miles. |
[Edited on 4-11-2012 by EnsenadaDr] |
About 25 miles... but there is no 'town' at Gonzaga...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
75 miles of drift for a body that is low to the water and doesn't act like a sail in the wind is not probable. gonzaga is probably a large area, not
just the bay proper, but still, 75 miles???? |
She was saying the distance to Gonzaga from San Felipe looked like 75 miles on satellite map... nothing was said the body drifted that far.
It was clear that they entered the water at El Huerfanito, which is closer to 70 road miles from San Felipe... and 25 road miles north of Gonzaga Bay.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
the body of a male, most likely Frank Wheeler, was found in San Luis Gonzaga Poblado. From what I located on the satellite map it looks like a bay
about 75 miles south of San Felipe. |
yeah, i guess i read it wrong?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Any of you know if a chubasco would have most likely blown the kayak in this direction? |
This page has a search function for local weather history:
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?...
With condolences to the family,
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Thank you for the clarification
OK, that explains it...they entered the water 50 miles south of San Felipe, so the location they found was 25 miles south of that, that would explain
it. | Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
75 miles of drift for a body that is low to the water and doesn't act like a sail in the wind is not probable. gonzaga is probably a large area, not
just the bay proper, but still, 75 miles???? |
She was saying the distance to Gonzaga from San Felipe looked like 75 miles on satellite map... nothing was said the body drifted that far.
It was clear that they entered the water at El Huerfanito, which is closer to 70 road miles from San Felipe... and 25 road miles north of Gonzaga Bay.
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Launched from the Huerfanito beach once in the morning - within an hour the swells got pretty big. We went out further thinking it would be a bit
flatter, but the swells were bigger, yet wider. So we decided to come in since conditions were only worsening. The swells got higher - maybe 10 feet
and started breaking - while we paralleled the coast looking for a beach we could land on. Me and another person capsized. We did self-rescues with
some assistance, got going in the right direction, and then pumped out enough water to become maneuverable to make a white water landing. Waiting
between waves, one by one we landed in 1-2 ft. surf. The huge swells were pretty scary, and the coast looked so far away. We needed all the skills
we could muster during the 3 hours we were out before deciding to come in, and couldn't let up on the paddling because the swells wanted to push you
in a different direction. It help tremendously that I was with other kayakers more experienced who told fme how to handle the conditions. I totally
understand how someone would get in trouble out there; and if you weren't wearing a life preserver .....
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woody with a view
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yes, the ocean is an unforgiving muttha! you also have to wonder why someone in their late 70's is putting themselves in that situation..... i imagine
that they weren't triathalon competitors so just how far were they planning to paddle that day.
too bad....
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So sorry to hear the news, my love and prayers go out to the family.
Spent one Christmas day out in the bay near playa burro and the wind came up so quick that it pushed my kayak into a large rock and it flipped. It
happened so fast it took a few seconds to realize that I was under water, by that time my lungs were full and I was choking. Thank God there was
someone going by and they thought I was snorkeling but decided to come back and check, they pulled me and the kayak to the island and someone came and
took us back to shore. After coughing up blood for awhile I realized what a close call that was and it really scared me. Stay smart don't take things
for granted out there!
We all want a peaceful world, filled with love and laughter, but we fill ourselves with anger and hate trying to fiqure out how to achive it.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
OK, that explains it...they entered the water 50 miles south of San Felipe, so the location they found was 25 miles south of that, that would explain
it. | Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
75 miles of drift for a body that is low to the water and doesn't act like a sail in the wind is not probable. gonzaga is probably a large area, not
just the bay proper, but still, 75 miles???? |
She was saying the distance to Gonzaga from San Felipe looked like 75 miles on satellite map... nothing was said the body drifted that far.
It was clear that they entered the water at El Huerfanito, which is closer to 70 road miles from San Felipe... and 25 road miles north of Gonzaga Bay.
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Please re-read my reply! 
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Very good, David..
It could have been that the person had traveled in the Kayak that far and then suddenly capsized, sadly, we'll never know... | Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
OK, that explains it...they entered the water 50 miles south of San Felipe, so the location they found was 25 miles south of that, that would explain
it. | Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
75 miles of drift for a body that is low to the water and doesn't act like a sail in the wind is not probable. gonzaga is probably a large area, not
just the bay proper, but still, 75 miles???? |
She was saying the distance to Gonzaga from San Felipe looked like 75 miles on satellite map... nothing was said the body drifted that far.
It was clear that they entered the water at El Huerfanito, which is closer to 70 road miles from San Felipe... and 25 road miles north of Gonzaga Bay.
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Please re-read my reply! |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wilderone
Launched from the Huerfanito beach once in the morning - within an hour the swells got pretty big. We went out further thinking it would be a bit
flatter, but the swells were bigger, yet wider. So we decided to come in since conditions were only worsening. The swells got higher - maybe 10 feet
and started breaking - while we paralleled the coast looking for a beach we could land on. Me and another person capsized. We did self-rescues with
some assistance, got going in the right direction, and then pumped out enough water to become maneuverable to make a white water landing. Waiting
between waves, one by one we landed in 1-2 ft. surf. The huge swells were pretty scary, and the coast looked so far away. We needed all the skills
we could muster during the 3 hours we were out before deciding to come in, and couldn't let up on the paddling because the swells wanted to push you
in a different direction. It help tremendously that I was with other kayakers more experienced who told fme how to handle the conditions. I totally
understand how someone would get in trouble out there; and if you weren't wearing a life preserver ..... |
WOW, pretty interesting, glad you were with others!
bacquito
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