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dtbushpilot
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I just drive the damn thing, no noticeable difference
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BajaNomad
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| Quote: | Originally posted by thebajarunner
Anyway, the question I would like answered, is simple.
Where does Baja Norte get its gas?
My guess- it is US gas without all the California crapola
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You would be correct.
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Curt63
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No noticeable difference in my 2004 Tundra.
But, the check engine light comes on as soon as I run my US gas low and fill up with Magna. The code I get is a catalyst efficiency code.
Check engine light goes off after a few tanks of US gas.
No worries
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BajaBruno
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I drive a diesel, so other factors apply, and my mileage is lower on Baja diesel, but I assume that is because the driving conditions are different.
There are not many topes on I-5 or H/W 99 and I am not on and off the pedal constantly as I am going through the curves of Mex-1.
As for performance, I don't perceive any difference, but my 2003 Duramax would probably do OK on used vegetable oil for the light loads I put on it.
I've driven a half dozen gas vehicles all over mainland Mexico since the leaded days (those were red tanks, eh?) and I never had a problem with
Mexican gas.
Christopher Bruno, Elk Grove, CA.
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Bob H
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Curt63
No noticeable difference in my 2004 Tundra.
But, the check engine light comes on as soon as I run my US gas low and fill up with Magna. The code I get is a catalyst efficiency code.
Check engine light goes off after a few tanks of US gas. |
You can 'reset' the check engine light by disconnecting your battery for a few minutes, and then reconnecting it to see if it comes back on...
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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Marc
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Runs just fine. It's a TOYOTA!
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Taco de Baja
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I get at least 5-10% better mileage on Pemex fuel (Magna). And I am usually hauling around 100s of pounds more weight than I do while at home, so it
might be even better. The best mileage I got (25mpg) was on Pemex fuel when my 1996 Tacoma was new.
I always get a Check-Engine-Light that says there is an "issue" with the oxygen sensor in front of the catalytic converter. Goes away once I get home
and put USA gas in it.
It does not seen to run any different, than I can tell. Does not matter what Pemex station I use.
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micah202
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...I drive an 80's toyo van,,did perceive pinging and lesser mileage while in mexico.....it's hard to get a handle on mileage differences though,,very
different driving styles in mexico,,with lots of little offroad sidetrips--very different driving from stateside
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captkw
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toy van
THat van has the hardest motor ever made to get access to !!
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BajaRat
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We run Roja when we can get it. Better performance in all aspects, fuel economy and hp output. The extra few pesos a tank doesn't seem to interfere
with the cerveza and comida fund. 
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woody with a view
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob H
| Quote: | Originally posted by Curt63
No noticeable difference in my 2004 Tundra.
But, the check engine light comes on as soon as I run my US gas low and fill up with Magna. The code I get is a catalyst efficiency code.
Check engine light goes off after a few tanks of US gas. |
You can 'reset' the check engine light by disconnecting your battery for a few minutes, and then reconnecting it to see if it comes back on...
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don't do this. get a simple code reader at VatoZone/Oreilly's and read, then clear the code(s). otherwise your computer needs to relearn fuel curves
and 1 or 2 million other data points, all the while your MPGs suffer.
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Ken Bondy
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My experience with Pemex includes diesel in my H1 and a LOT of aviation gas in a variety of airplanes. I saw no difference between performance on
Pemex and NOB fuels.
carpe diem!
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SFandH
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I don't notice any difference now.
20 years ago yes, my trucks would ping going uphill on Mexican gas.
The only problem I have now with PEMEX gas is that at some stations I have to fill real slow or the pump stops as though the tank is full. I had to
give up at the PEMEX at Los Pinos the last time and fill up in El Rosario instead. It never happens in the states nor at most other PEMEX stations.
Anybody else have that problem?
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1Bajalover
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Premium seemed to be what my 2000 Nissan Truck liked best and it ran great the whole time...the gas overall was less expensive than the U S (like most
everything else)
I did get an oil change in Southern Cal and the air filter was black..but that could be all those dirt roads my truck traveled...
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woody with a view
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| Quote: | Originally posted by SFandH
The only problem I have now with PEMEX gas is that at some stations I have to fill real slow or the pump stops as though the tank is full. I had to
give up at the PEMEX at Los Pinos the last time and fill up in El Rosario instead. It never happens in the states nor at most other PEMEX stations.
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yes, but mine does it NOB....
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comitan
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Absolutely no difference in the 30years I've been bumming around Mexico.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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El Jefe
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Wow, I like the idea that I might be getting better mileage from Pemex gas! And with their uncanny ability to actually be able to put about two more
gallons in my tank than it holds, I'm like livin' large!!
No b-tchin\' in the Baja.
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DavidE
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The red, green, and yellow dispensers:
Gasolmex
Mexolina
Cien
All of which disappeared I think some time in the late sixties. The least expensive fuel was 78 octane. Pemex Cien in the yellow pump at the time cost
the eqvt of 45 cents US per gallon when regular gasoline in the states was thirty one point nine cents a gallon. Could not find it south of Tijuana,
or Juarez. Nogales did not get it until 1968.
We used to joke that Gasolmex forced a person to retard the ignition timing so far to reduce knocking, that you had to start the car on Friday to go
shopping Saturday.
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Ateo
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SFandH and Woody,
There are a couple things that may be happening to cause the nozzle from clicking off prematurely. If this happens consistently everywhere, then I'd
say it's not a problem with the fueling equipment, but rather something in your tank design causing the clicking off to occur (sorry, not blaming you.
I actually doubt this is the case, as all auto manufacturers know about the the needs of a nozzle and wouldn't want all their Tundras clicking off
every time they were fueling). There are big differences in the way fueling occurs north and south of the border so this is a complicated issue.
Generally the clicking off is due to the following reasons:
1. The vapor return portion in the hose is clogged with fuel. This occurs when the previous customer tops off his/her tank for too long. The tank
is full and because of the tight seal with the faceplate of the nozzle to the cars tank, the gas being dispensed has nowhere to go but back into the
hose. The hose is coaxial meaning it has two compartments - one for gas and one to collect vapors. By topping off repetitively, the fuel stats
clogging the vapor return line, which can cause a nozzle to click off prematurely. I sometime laugh at those topping off for 2 minutes because all
they're doing is paying for gas they aren't receiving, or I enjoy them disconnecting the nozzle from the tank and having gas go spraying everywhere
out of the hose/nozzle. It's actually dangerous, so I don't laugh much.
2. All nozzles are equipped with automatic shutoff. When the sensor on the spout of the nozzle detects liquid, it shuts off, thinking the tank is
full. If this sensor is not functioning correctly, it can cause the nozzle to click off prematurely.
3. Could be something wrong with the insertion interlock mechanism on the nozzle. The bellows need to be compressed for fueling to occur. A defect
could cause the nozzle to not dispense (or worse, dispense when the bellows aren't compressed).
4. The nozzle ain't pushed in all the way. Don't be afraid to stick it in deep!! =)
Again, big difference in equipment north and south of the border so this is a general statement on my part.
My $.02. I probably didn't answer anything................as usual. =)
[Edited on 7-14-2012 by ateo]
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woody with a view
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there is a known issue with the filler neck on my 03 Tundy. some have replaced theirs with good results. being the cheap bastard that i am i stand
there and hold the nozzle while filling.....
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