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norte
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here he comes out from under the table. Hey you write books about baja. your in bed with people who sell accommodations. you promote baja.
pahhlese. I would rather listen to the people who keep you and me FREE. I am entitled to my opinion.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by norte
Check for State Department warnings first. They are the experts. Some people benefit encouraging tourists to drive to Mexico even when it is
dangerous. |
What BS... our government are the 'experts'... pah---lease!
Read my trip report, I have 0 financial gain from telling anyone it was a great trip. |
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norte
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geeze. ex brother in law says it all. Please keeep your family problems from influencing your recommendations.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by norte
Check for State Department warnings first. They are the experts. Some people benefit encouraging tourists to drive to Mexico even when it is
dangerous. |
What BS... our government are the 'experts'... pah---lease!
Read my trip report, I have 0 financial gain from telling anyone it was a great trip. |
My ex-brother in law was a State Dept high official,
he was worthless
so are their reports!!!
If you believe them, then stay home in your crime-free California neighborhood.
OOOOPS, you say, your neighborhood is not crime free...
Well, son of a gun, better go to Baja where you are lots less likely to get mugged. |
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motoged
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Driving an SUV anywhere can be dangerous if you aren't paying attention:


and , David..... we all like your latest trip report, but do you need to tell people to read it in all your current posts 
http://jalopnik.com/5900071/violent-suv-crash-video-shows-latest-victim-of-the-nurburgring
Don't believe everything you think....
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by norte
here he comes out from under the table. Hey you write books about baja. your in bed with people who sell accommodations. you promote baja.
pahhlese. I would rather listen to the people who keep you and me FREE. I am entitled to my opinion.
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by norte
Check for State Department warnings first. They are the experts. Some people benefit encouraging tourists to drive to Mexico even when it is
dangerous. |
What BS... our government are the 'experts'... pah---lease!
Read my trip report, I have 0 financial gain from telling anyone it was a great trip. |
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Yes, you are... but scaring people over false fears is best left to the president and his staff.... Oh wait, you were reading a 'State Dept.
bulletin'!
 
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norte
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What a nonsense statement. Somehow I don't think a new president is going to change the Sate Departments opinion on travel in Mexico. One of their
jobs is to warn US citizens of dangers in other countries. Take it for its worth. Or in your case don't take anything but your own opinion.
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by norte
here he comes out from under the table. Hey you write books about baja. your in bed with people who sell accommodations. you promote baja.
pahhlese. I would rather listen to the people who keep you and me FREE. I am entitled to my opinion.
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by norte
Check for State Department warnings first. They are the experts. Some people benefit encouraging tourists to drive to Mexico even when it is
dangerous. |
What BS... our government are the 'experts'... pah---lease!
Read my trip report, I have 0 financial gain from telling anyone it was a great trip. |
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Yes, you are... but scaring people over false fears is best left to the president and his staff.... Oh wait, you were reading a 'State Dept.
bulletin'!
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thebajarunner
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This just in......
Hot off the State Dept wire....
Special message for "Norte"
STAY HOME!!!
STAY SAFE
BAJA IS NOT WELCOME FOR YOU (only you- all others OK)
| Quote: | Originally posted by norte
What a nonsense statement. Somehow I don't think a new president is going to change the Sate Departments opinion on travel in Mexico. One of their
jobs is to warn US citizens of dangers in other countries. Take it for its worth. Or in your case don't take anything but your own opinion.
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Lee
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the only thing that would add to my concern about driving an SUV or a newer pickup truck in baja, is if it was black. |
This is true. A neighbor drove a full-size truck with camper shell (both black) and tinted windows. He said he was stopped at every checkpoint
South and questioned/searched.
On the other hand, parking a new vehicle in the wrong area (could be anywhere), might get it keyed.
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thebajarunner
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I drive a silver colored truck, no tint
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fandango
the only thing that would add to my concern about driving an SUV or a newer pickup truck in baja, is if it was black. |
This is true. A neighbor drove a full-size truck with camper shell (both black) and tinted windows. He said he was stopped at every checkpoint
South and questioned/searched.
On the other hand, parking a new vehicle in the wrong area (could be anywhere), might get it keyed. |
and I got stopped at every checkpoint and searched.....
ain't no big thing
just part of the landscape.... 
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by GilandVal
Just wanted some opinions on driving my 2011 SUV down to Cabo. Thanks |
Check your u2u
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Curt63
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cielomar
Take three days to get to Cabo if you have it. First night in El Rosario (Baja Cactus), second in Loreto (Oasis) and then an easy 7 hour drive to
Cabo. don't drive at night and get away from the border where all the traffic in Baja seems to be. Besides, the "real" Baja only starts at El
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Good advice. Make sure you have your Tourist Visa. Your Mex car insurance may be invalid without a visa.
No worries
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liknbaja127
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Well said Bajarunner,we're leaving for San Quintin tomorrow! Cant wait to,
get the hell out of So. Cal. for a few days,
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thebajarunner
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Thanks, and have a great safe trip
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Well said Bajarunner,we're leaving for San Quintin tomorrow! Cant wait to,
get the hell out of So. Cal. for a few days, |
For 40 years I have endured listening to uninformed (I scratched out "ignorant") folks bashing the land I love down South.
Sad that those stories still persist.
Man, we get a murder a day up here in a small Central Cal county, and they call Baja 'unsafe'
Enjoy, and have a cool one each day for me.
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Ateo
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Just go. The safety thing is total BS. I feel safer in Baja than cruising around LA/OC/SD. U2U me if you want specifics. Again, drive safe.
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Sandlefoot
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| Quote: | Originally posted by norte
Check for State Department warnings first. They are the experts. Some people benefit encouraging tourists to drive to Mexico even when it is
dangerous. |
These "experts" do not live, vacation, or even travel here themselves. So what makes them more knowledgable than those of us who do?
Have you EVER been to Baja? Have you EVER driven to Cabo? If you have what happened on your trips to sour you so on this wonderful, beautiful, safe
place? And of course if you have not.....well you opinion is as valuable as other "experts"!
I am interseted to know what happened on your trips that make you feel this way.
Happy Trails
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KaceyJ
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My dos centavos:
Forget Baja Cactus/El Rosario , except for fuel (Noisy)
Try Jardines , (San Quintin) you won't be disappointed
Avoid everything in the moscaino triangle
Slow down , stay at Serinedead , Mulege, pool , decent meals and accommodations , a/c
Easy days drive to La Paz, many choices for rooms and excellent meals,
Extra 1/2 day to Cabo
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The Sculpin
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Personally, I do not subscribe to the " don't drive at night" theory. I do. First off, there's less traffic. Second, it's cooler. That said, you have
to drive slower, unless you're lucky to keep up with the Aquila or a truck. Slower, because most likely the car coming at you in the other lane ( for
now) is probably drunk. Also, large bovines and equines enjoy the heat radiating from the road at night. Don't worry about the snakes. I didn't say it
wasn't without its hazards, but I do it.......frequently. Oh, and sometimes the cops aren't cops. A good poker face and and ounce of crazy helps in
those situations. It's mo betta when you get to the dirt. Enjoy.
Whoa there, Cowboy - pull back on those reins!
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durrelllrobert
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When that big-rig, bus or other slow moving vehicle in front of you has his left turn signal on he's telling you that it's safe to pass him. Don't
believe it.
Bob Durrell
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BajaDixon
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I drive from Cali to Cabo sometimes on dirt roads, sometimes on pavement, and sometimes a combination of the 2. I have no direct experience with
having any security problems, nor have I heard of many problems at all.
The thing with people saying it is dangerous is that it is always coming from hearsay or vague news reports. You don't hear much negative stuff from
the people who are actually traveling the Baja.
The roads are dangerous if you're not driving defensively but other than that it sure seems safer than the States.
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Martyman
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I have a friend who knows a guy that got ripped off in Mexico. My friend has never been but it is very scary.
How many times have you heard that story?
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windgrrl
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Yes - get your paperwork in order, learn at least a bit of Spanish, have a look at the names of the towns and routes, use your usual precations for
travelling in an unfamiliar place and stop along the way to enjoy the wonderful places along the way. Call me naive, but I always feel much safer once
we cross into Baja.
When the way comes to an end, then change. Having changed, you pass through.
~ I-Ching
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