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[*] posted on 10-24-2004 at 05:32 PM
No problem Lee


just a little touchy after tuckers idiotic accusations.
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[*] posted on 10-24-2004 at 05:36 PM


Hey JR, any luck IDing those shells?



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[*] posted on 10-24-2004 at 08:16 PM
I didn't know if you were serious!


"So Margie's answer wasn't right?: and you said,
"It's a Pacific Albino "Aflack" shell"

That's why I asked if that was it or not. I might be slow, but I'm pretty stupid too.:?:
But, I know now to continue the search! I think I know just who to contact to. I talked to Scripps a few years ago regarding our beach being covered with waves of jellyfish. (By the wind sailors)
They were most helpful and explained that the reason they were there was because they hadn't learned to tack yet: lol::lol::lol:
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[*] posted on 10-24-2004 at 08:37 PM
Just looked up aflack


which pretty much proves I'm a dumbass just for doing it.
It says either sience fiction/fantasy bs or insurance bs.
Just like the majority of anonymous posts.

But, I will find out !
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[*] posted on 10-24-2004 at 10:22 PM


This is certainly an interesting thread!

And thanks, JR, for believing that I meant you no ill-will and accepting my apology.

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[*] posted on 10-24-2004 at 10:27 PM
This is one Shell of a mystery.


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[*] posted on 10-25-2004 at 08:28 AM
Ladies and Gentlemen


It is my pleasure to introduce the newest discovery from the deep, Molluskas Frizkieus de la playas.:lol:
This is definitely a good one girl. I have looked at many sites on Conchology, shell identification, books, etc. and haven't come up with anything. I'm waiting to hear back from the Philippines and will contact the guy at Scripps in a little while.

Veeeery Interesting !!:?:
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[*] posted on 10-25-2004 at 10:00 AM
Pacific Albino Aflaaaak - HA!!


The Aflack is the little white duck that appears on TV in the Aflack Insurance ads!!

I'm rather sure this is no relation to that funny little duck...But HEY, ya never know. There is definitely a resemblance between them. Heh, heh!! :P
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[*] posted on 10-25-2004 at 10:29 AM
They obviously don't sell


insurance on the discovery or history channel or I would have known.
But, I still don't get the anon posting. But then, I never do or particularly care.
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[*] posted on 10-25-2004 at 02:12 PM


Might try contacting the guy that runs this website as he has 1,000s of seashells for trade:

http://www.californiashells.com/

I have been trading for over 20 years and look forward to sharing some of these shells with you. I will have links to scans of all of the shells I have for exchange. This is a large undertaking as I have many 1,000's for trade.

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[*] posted on 10-25-2004 at 05:09 PM
I know what they are!


They are a type of shell in the Pholadidae: Piddock family. There are many Genera in this family, and are known from all oceans throughout the world

They are a clam that bores into wood, rock or other hard surfaces. As they grow they bore by twisting their shell back and forth and using the sharp edges on the anterior end to abrade the surface they are digging into. Often the shell will be much larger than the opening where they stick their siphon out to feed. This is because they dig their entire lives, and the small hole is the what they started out with as small clams.

If you look at rocks in the tide pools, or pilings at the pier/dock and see hole in them, they are probably the result of Pholad clams.
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[*] posted on 10-25-2004 at 07:48 PM
Taco de Baja


That certainly was the most intelligent guess to date. However, I don't think it is of the Pholadidae family....it does not have a strong enough exterior to burrow into wood or any hard surface. The Pholadidae shells have two matching halves that fit together. These have two pieces to the body but they do not match in shape or size.
I'm not convinced that it is a shell but more like a skull almost ... but that dosen't make a lot of sense either, as there were a lot of them in one mound, almost like some kind of eggs were buried there.
Thanx for your efforts though.
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[*] posted on 10-25-2004 at 07:56 PM
Curioser


and curioser. Skulls ?? I don't know about that idea.:biggrin:
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[*] posted on 10-25-2004 at 08:46 PM


Pholads gape at both ends and are very thin, almost like egg shells.....
They don't have to be thick as the rock/wood they live in protects them. They bore by slowly twisting back and forth and use the rough anterior end like sandpaper. all they really have to bore is as fast as they grow, which is pretty slow. It looks similar to some I have found as fossils, in my job as a palentologist in southern California.
They are a rare find b/c of the fragile nature of the shell.
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[*] posted on 10-25-2004 at 10:18 PM


But it doesn't gape at both ends. One end is completely round like a skull or egg and the other end looks like a duck's bill. It is hinged halfway down on the sides and seems to want to pivot on these hinges. The top could be totally separated from the bottom if it were not for the membrane that is the hinge.
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[*] posted on 10-26-2004 at 08:00 AM


here is a ?french? site with pictures of various pholads:
http://www.chez.com/malacos/htm/R59.HTM

Hre is a close up of Parapholas californica:
http://www.msc.ucla.edu/oceanglobe/specimenphotographs/anima...

Here is Zirfaea sp.: (I have found fossils of this one):
http://www.fossiles.be/zoom48.htm

Note the thinness of the shell and the raspy anterior end on all.
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[*] posted on 10-26-2004 at 09:44 AM


There was no point of the "AFLAAACK" insurance duck, other than a little attempt at humor. (Lord knows, we need it on this board.) I figured everybody has seen their commercials, and since the shell resembles the duck in an odd way, I suggested the Aflack shell. Didn't mean to create a disturbance. ..Excuuuuuuse me!
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[*] posted on 10-26-2004 at 09:51 AM
Not to worry,


I just didn't get the connection. In fact, I still don't but hey, I'm not the brightest bulb in the chandelier!
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[*] posted on 10-26-2004 at 12:28 PM


Looks a bit like a chambered Nautilus
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[*] posted on 10-26-2004 at 11:22 PM
And the winner is.... Taco de Baja!!!!


YAHOOOO!!!!!! Found it!! In one of the links sent by Taco!!!!
Ta!! Da!!!! It is a "Jouannetia Pectinata" of the Pholadidae Family. Finally!!! This is very exciting!!! To me at least. So COOL!!!!
I think I will hang onto it very carefully. That link said that it is worth (or they sold one for) $18,00 that is a French link so I wonder how much $$ that is?? Anyone know??

Thanks everyone, that was fun!!

Taco de Baja, I owe you one Frizkie style Margarita...lucky guy....heh!heh!
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