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Paulina
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
it's all about time. the cop has it and knows you are in a hurry to get home, if not to just get away from him. be patient and call out his name and
badge number while writing it down.... |
It is all about time. When we got pulled over a while ago in Catavina we had nothing but time. While at the police station I even said to the officer,
"look at all the cars that have gone by that you could have pulled this on instead of trying to wait me out."
Regarding calling his name out, I asked him for his police I.D. card, held out my hand till he handed it over. I told him I wanted to make sure I got
the spelling correct as I entered all the info into my journal.
It's also about nerves too, as Dennis said. It helps to be a bit hot headed yourself, I guess.
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Udo
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Never thought about asking him for his ID.
Great idea.
Udo
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Lee
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Paulina
It's also about nerves too, as Dennis said. It helps to be a bit hot headed yourself, I guess.
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Creating a situation where a MX cop loses face is a bad idea. Firm and polite conversation will win every time.
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woody with a view
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that's a bunch of BS! either bend over or fight for what's right!!!!
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DENNIS
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Negotiation skills are all important....so much so that they should be studied.
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Paulina
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Well, I must be a firm, polite, hot head then. The cop's ego is not what's important here. Anytime a MX cop doesn't win he loses face. Lee, I get
your point, though. One can be firm and polite, but also not bend over. Maybe stubborn is a better word? Eye contact, smile, confidence and time.
I did fall to the dark side once and used the f word. Once. Different shake down. One cop was on Dern's drivers side telling him he was speeding. It
was 5 am, dark, on the stretch by the military hosp. We saw them parked next to the Pemex and knew they would try and they did. After a few minutes of
Dern refusing, politely, the other cop walked up to my window. I rolled it down and calmly said, "You'd better write us the f'n ticket right now
because we are NOT paying mordida". The cop said, "Go". We did.
I don't usually use that word, only on Smut Mondays, so I must not have had my coffee yet.
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BajaRae
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
it's all about time. the cop has it and knows you are in a hurry to get home, if not to just get away from him. be patient and call out his name and
badge number while writing it down. tape the numbers for sindicatura to the back of your license and put a solid crease on the scotch tape so that the
turd will feel it when you hand it to him. the look on his stoopid face will be priceless when he turns it over.
here's what's on mine:
Sinducatura del Gobierno Municipal
Tijuana (663) 688-2810
Ensenada (646) 617-1561
the big crease in the tape is what makes it work. |
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BajaRae
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We were not in a hurry...but he was....and we were in Tecate..so those numbes are no good.....I know the ropes.....this was difficult. Thanks though
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Paulina
"You'd better write us the f'n ticket right now because we are NOT paying mordida". The cop said, "Go". We did.
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I have to believe that a woman, especially a pretty woman, can do and say things to a macho Mexican cop that wouldn't be tolerated from a man.
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woody with a view
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaRae
We were not in a hurry...but he was....and we were in Tecate..so those numbes are no good.....I know the ropes.....this was difficult. Thanks though
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BUT, if he sees you have some numbers, and you know that the game is afoot, he will pee himself if you give him the chance....
Please, don't ask for solutions if you aren't willing to use those offered!
[Edited on 10-8-2012 by woody with a view]
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BajaRae
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaRae
We were not in a hurry...but he was....and we were in Tecate..so those numbes are no good.....I know the ropes.....this was difficult. Thanks though
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BUT, if he sees you have some numbers, and you know that the game is afoot, he will pee himself if you give him the chance....
Please, don't ask for solutions if you aren't willing to use those offered!
[Edited on 10-8-2012 by woody with a view] |
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BajaRae
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wow ok...all I asked for was Tecate sindicatura numbers.....not a lesson from you!
Funny I did have info in my car but forgot about it ...haven't had a problem for about 10 years. Got the numbers now.....the emails don't work so I'm
going to try to call from the states to see if they work....Be nice .....
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woody with a view
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yeah, you're right! please disregard everything i've said.
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Jack Swords
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BajaRae: Please ignore any condescending remarks as they do not represent most of us that appreciate your posting. As a dog owner that uses the
Tecate exit several times each year with our dog (as many Nomads do), we are greatly interested in any communication you achieve with Mexican
authorities. After our typical 12 hour drive to the Tecate border we certainly don't feel like playing games with the local police.
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Lee
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaRae
wow ok...all I asked for was Tecate sindicatura numbers.....not a lesson from you!
Funny I did have info in my car but forgot about it ...haven't had a problem for about 10 years. Got the numbers now.....the emails don't work so I'm
going to try to call from the states to see if they work....Be nice ..... |
Listen, whatever info you get, could you post it here? If Sindicatura number works, that's a good thing.
Just a reminder about the Tecate story not too long ago. Cop(s) stop a guy, search his truck, find a knife(s), he won't pay on the street, goes
to the ''station,'' and he gives in. (Think he had a wife waiting in the truck outside.)
I posted at the same time something that happened to a friend coming through CC late. Pulled over for speeding, he gives the cop his California
license (first mistake!). He too goes to the station, a cop there has a ''chart'' with list of offenses and amount of fines -- they hardball him.
He gave in and paid too.
Personally, I don't recommend going to any station -- unless it's a legitimate traffic violation. If it's a scam, I think your chances are better
on the street, in public, than negotiating with more cops in private. Just my opinion!
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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BajaRae
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Jack Swords
BajaRae: Please ignore any condescending remarks as they do not represent most of us that appreciate your posting. As a dog owner that uses the
Tecate exit several times each year with our dog (as many Nomads do), we are greatly interested in any communication you achieve with Mexican
authorities. After our typical 12 hour drive to the Tecate border we certainly don't feel like playing games with the local police.
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BajaRae
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Thank you so much....we just need the info so we can be prepared....I'm probably going to get my dog a soft crate...just for Tecate...she is ok with a
crate...then that problem will be solved...and I will have sindicatura's no.'s on my ID and also on a card...kinda big so I can flash it....why after
we have had a great time do we have to deal with jerks.....of course they think we are all rich....I don't know about you but I'm not.....
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BajaRae
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Lee ....not sure how to reply when you quoted....but I agree I wanted to stay in that busy area....and not go anywhere because we knew it was all
about money....2 of the emails didn't work and I found another ....I sent the same message this morning and it didn't bounce back yet....but we will
see if I get a reply.....I just want sindicatura in Tecate to know they have Bad cops....I'll let you know...Rae
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaRae
...then that problem will be solved... |
Thanks for the heads-up and keep us posted.
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