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[*] posted on 12-5-2012 at 04:54 PM


Got to love this site-only here if someone says the beach has sand will there be a dispute.:yes:

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[*] posted on 12-5-2012 at 04:58 PM


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Got to love this site-only here if someone says the beach has sand will there be a dispute.:yes:



Especially if the reference is to the beach in front of the defunct Trump Towers which had raw sewage. :fire:
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[*] posted on 12-5-2012 at 05:22 PM


Ah so that is why they needed to have a sewage treatment plant...to treat the untreated sewage that was floating in the waters in the front of the Trump beach, or was that a joke, Dennis?
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[*] posted on 12-5-2012 at 05:30 PM


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Ah so that is why they needed to have a sewage treatment plant...to treat the untreated sewage that was floating in the waters in the front of the Trump beach, or was that a joke, Dennis?



No joke. Right across the Toll Road is a sewage treatment plant that sends it's runoff across the street to the beach.
Travelling south on the Toll Road, you can easily see the terrain around the plant. It looks like a rain forrest with Palm Trees, all nourished by recycled Baja-Med and Corona Beer.
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[*] posted on 12-5-2012 at 05:43 PM


I know that, but the question is was the sewage treatment plant treating the sewage or letting raw sewage run into the ocean? It sure smells like raw sewage. The other question is, was the developer aware of this and was the reason they nixed the project because they were told they had to build a sewage treatment plant of their own?
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[*] posted on 12-5-2012 at 06:13 PM


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I know that, but the question is was the sewage treatment plant treating the sewage or letting raw sewage run into the ocean? It sure smells like raw sewage. The other question is, was the developer aware of this and was the reason they nixed the project because they were told they had to build a sewage treatment plant of their own?



You'll have to direct these questions to The Donald. All I know is what I recall......complaints of raw sewage coming from a pipe onto the beach and into the water from across the street. It probably hasn't changed.



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[Edited on 12-6-2012 by DENNIS]
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[*] posted on 12-8-2012 at 01:17 PM


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It was a compliment to the Jewish race, they are known successes in the movie business and making money. I dated several Jewish men in my life, and have nothing but respect for them. Sounds to me like there is little room for a sense of humor and levity.
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Sounds like a stereotypical racist comment



It was no compliment; it was offensive.

[Edited on 12-8-2012 by MsTerieus]
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[*] posted on 12-8-2012 at 01:30 PM


Driving past that area always brings up the old joke "It smells like an elephant heard just passed by."

Virtually all the hotels and restaurants on the ocean run their sewage into the sea. Outside Belio's one Sunday brunch the wind off the ocean brought the elephant heard to mind. I am sure the Coral has the same setup but I never bothered to look for their run-off. I assume it is by the marina.

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[*] posted on 12-8-2012 at 02:35 PM


Give me a break, you know me personally and you know I am not racist, if someone made a joke about Italians I wouldn't take it personally.
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It was a compliment to the Jewish race, they are known successes in the movie business and making money. I dated several Jewish men in my life, and have nothing but respect for them. Sounds to me like there is little room for a sense of humor and levity.
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I am not Jewish, Greengoes, so what do expect when it comes to Finances fro me?


Sounds like a stereotypical racist comment



It was no compliment; it was offensive.

[Edited on 12-8-2012 by MsTerieus]
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[*] posted on 12-8-2012 at 02:37 PM


so they don't treat sewage in Mexico, or that sewage treatment plant by Trump's proposed resort does nothing to the raw sewage?
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Driving past that area always brings up the old joke "It smells like an elephant heard just passed by."

Virtually all the hotels and restaurants on the ocean run their sewage into the sea. Outside Belio's one Sunday brunch the wind off the ocean brought the elephant heard to mind. I am sure the Coral has the same setup but I never bothered to look for their run-off. I assume it is by the marina.

I won't bother mentioning Popotla. :)
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[*] posted on 12-8-2012 at 03:05 PM


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so they don't treat sewage in Mexico, or that sewage treatment plant by Trump's proposed resort does nothing to the raw sewage.


They sort through it by hand and classify it by size. Then, they make an educated guess as to which restaurant it came from and they tax the business accordingly.
That's what I've been told anyway. :saint:




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[*] posted on 12-8-2012 at 03:14 PM


Dennis, I would imagine that most of the coastline sewage up that way comes from private homes in developments such as Real del Mar and San Antonio del Mar. And most of it is in a liquified state after reaching the sewage treatment plant. Sorry to burst your bubble on a potential job opportunity!!
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so they don't treat sewage in Mexico, or that sewage treatment plant by Trump's proposed resort does nothing to the raw sewage.


They sort through it by hand and classify it by size. Then, they make an educated guess as to which restaurant it came from and they tax the business accordingly.
That's what I've been told anyway. :saint:




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[*] posted on 12-8-2012 at 03:55 PM


yeah it would be great if mexico would start to address the problem of coastal sewage treatment, they did an amazing job in tijuana so they have the tools, like all else it comes down to funding I suppose.
then again who are we to talk with some of california's most famous beach's being the biggest offenders.
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[*] posted on 12-8-2012 at 03:58 PM


so they don't treat the sewage on California's coastline? Everytime my son went surfing in La Jolla, he would come down with a sinus infection, probably from all the bacteria in the water.
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yeah it would be great if mexico would start to address the problem of coastal sewage treatment, they did an amazing job in tijuana so they have the tools, like all else it comes down to funding I suppose.
then again who are we to talk with some of california's most famous beach's being the biggest offenders.
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[*] posted on 12-8-2012 at 04:12 PM


the sewage is treated, thats not the problem. californias polluted beaches come from run off, storm drains. none of this chit is treated or even filtered in most communities.
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[*] posted on 12-8-2012 at 04:16 PM


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yeah it would be great if mexico would start to address the problem of coastal sewage treatment, they did an amazing job in tijuana so they have the tools, like all else it comes down to funding I suppose.
then again who are we to talk with some of california's most famous beach's being the biggest offenders.


except california dumps its treated sewage miles offshore for the currents to disperse. Mexico lets its treated sewage run down a hillside, under a highway and across a beach dumping right into ankle deep water. Oh, and they also rely on another country to treat their sewage before it dumps into a riverbed and finds its way onto another countries shores.

just saying....

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[*] posted on 12-8-2012 at 04:37 PM


well yes and no.
the sewage and runoff you see running into the ocean needs to be addressed.
right now all the treated sewage from the san ysidro plant is pumped two miles off shore to the southbay ocean outfall. the treated sewage from the other smaller plants is dumped into the tijuana river.
ALL the treated sewage meets standards at or above the level of cleanliness by san diego standards.
hey these folks are trying.
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[*] posted on 12-8-2012 at 04:41 PM


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hey these folks are trying.


Remember when Brian Bilbray drove a bulldozer down into the Tijuana River valley to dam up the raw sewage from Mexico ending up on Coronado beaches?
Great photo op if nothing else.
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[*] posted on 12-8-2012 at 06:54 PM


yes and yes. 1) it needs to be addressed. 2) another country treats Mexican sewage so it doesn't pollute the non Mexican beaches.



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[*] posted on 12-8-2012 at 08:37 PM
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"You are an ignorant ****!"

Ensenada Dr you made a blatantly racist and stupid remark.

Choosing to be a member of the Jewish religion is not a racial designation; it is a life choice driven by belief and commitment.

And this opinion is coming from a non-denominational Christian who becomes really irritated when some people expose their prejudices.




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