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Retireded
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Registered: 10-4-2012
Location: El Sauzal
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Mood: Wishin' I was Fishin', Oh, I am!
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Wow,
What a great response. When I was living in Port Orchard, Wa. and thinking of coming here some friends advised me to check out Baja Nomads. I can't
thank them enough. What a great bunch. Thank you all for the great responses and advice. I know the current owners somewhat as I currently rent
from them and they are really nice folks. We will be taking a ride sometime soon to look it over and probably make a side trip to Asuncion while we
are at it. My wife and I are both very happy to be here and plan to make Baja our home for a long time to come. We are both looking forward to
seeing much more of it as time, health, and all the other variables permit.
Thanks again to all who responded, and we look forward to meeting some of you. In the time we have been here our social life has been limited,
spending most of our time just enjoying this beautiful place and each others company. It is a whole new life, and we are taking it slow. Living in
El Sauzal for over a month, and as yet unaware whether not there is even a cantina in the town. We stopped at Hussong's when we first arrived, and
have made one more trip there a week later. Interesting place, recommended by an old friend in Wa. We do intend to get out more and meet more people
over the next few weeks.
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Marc
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 2802
Registered: 5-15-2010
Location: San Francisco & Palm Springs
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There's no cell phone service. There are a couple of internet shops where calls can be made...for a price.
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baitcast
Super Nomad
Posts: 1785
Registered: 8-31-2003
Location: kingman AZ.
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Been there many times over the years,the fishing can still be good,the seeing is great,over all a super place to spent some time.
O yes it can get a little warm come August and September
Rob
Anyone can catch fish in a boat but only \"El Pescador Grande\" can get them from the beach.
I hope when my time comes the old man will let me bring my rod and the water will be warm and clear.
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DENNIS
Platinum Nomad
Posts: 29510
Registered: 9-2-2006
Location: Punta Banda
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Retireded
I know the current owners somewhat as I currently rent from them and they are really nice folks. We will be taking a ride sometime soon
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You may be getting a ride you didn't bargain for in your negotiations with your "friends."
I just can't believe other Nomads, who are aware of the problems, haven't checked in here to make you aware of the land mines in real estate dealings
in Mexico. They seem to be sitting back, telling you of the great views, and saying zero about the pitfalls you seem to be unaware of.
First and foremost.........no one will give you a good screwing faster than those "really nice folks" you mentioned.
It can all go downhill from there.
I'm going to let this go so you can ask some pertinant questions concerning foreigners owning land in Mexico. if you don't look into it, we'll all
just watch you swing in the wind, and while you do, I feel you would be entitled to ask these LA Bay cheerleaders why they didn't say something when
they were asked.
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captkw
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 3850
Registered: 10-19-2010
Location: el charro b.c.s.
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Mood: new dog/missing the old 1
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Land & houses in mexico
Hola,,I agree with DENNIS very much !! It can be like walking through a meadow near yosemite, but filled with land mines!! Take your time and be
careful... there is more horrer storys than you would ever guess !! and there are a lot of happy endings Too !! K&T
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MMc
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I do enjoy Bay of L. A. but I wouldn't want to live there full time. It's a long way for supplies. G. N is where most go for basic supplies, anything
major is a long drive.
Please rent something there for a couple of months before you buy. A short visit is nothing like a long stay, also you'll get to know the real deals
and true worth of things. There is the local price, the gringo price and the P-nche gringo price.
The first rule of owning property in Mexico, DON'T INVEST MORE THEN YOU'RE WILLING AND ABLE TO WALK AWAY FROM
Often the seller will double the expected price to see what happens.
"Never teach a pig to sing it frustrates you and annoys the pig" - W.C.Fields
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24baja
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Posts: 952
Registered: 2-3-2009
Location: Grants Pass Oregon/Bahia de Los Angeles
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Mood: Wishing we were in BOLA
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Retireded
I know the current owners somewhat as I currently rent from them and they are really nice folks. We will be taking a ride sometime soon
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You may be getting a ride you didn't bargain for in your negotiations with your "friends."
I just can't believe other Nomads, who are aware of the problems, haven't checked in here to make you aware of the land mines in real estate dealings
in Mexico. They seem to be sitting back, telling you of the great views, and saying zero about the pitfalls you seem to be unaware of.
First and foremost.........no one will give you a good screwing faster than those "really nice folks" you mentioned.
It can all go downhill from there.
I'm going to let this go so you can ask some pertinant questions concerning foreigners owning land in Mexico. if you don't look into it, we'll all
just watch you swing in the wind, and while you do, I feel you would be entitled to ask these LA Bay cheerleaders why they didn't say something when
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I didn't say anything because we Lease our land own our house......we are content with that. And Dennis your tone is kinda rude....
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David K
Honored Nomad
Posts: 65411
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
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Mood: Have Baja Fever
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Port Orchard? One of your neighbors has a place at L.A. Bay... Oh Debra, you out there?
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bajaguy
Elite Nomad
Posts: 9247
Registered: 9-16-2003
Location: Carson City, NV/Ensenada - Baja Country Club
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Mood: must be 5 O'clock somewhere in Baja
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For short stays, I would either rent a motel room or rent a house from someone down there.
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DENNIS
Platinum Nomad
Posts: 29510
Registered: 9-2-2006
Location: Punta Banda
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| Quote: | Originally posted by 24baja
And Dennis your tone is kinda rude.... |
KINDA rude? Thanks for telling me. I'll have to work on that, fer sure. Anything worth doing is worth doing well.
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[Edited on 12-26-2012 by DENNIS]
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David K
Honored Nomad
Posts: 65411
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
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Well, if anyone was going to consider living anywhere they really need to visit the place, see what is (and isn't) there. It is a desert fishing
village on an incredibly beautiful, island filled bay with summer temps well into the 100's and very cold in the winter... snow even on top of the
4,000' peaks just south of town on rare winters.
Strong winds and dust storms are typical in the spring and chubascos and flash floods in the late summer and fall.
Fresh water is a premium and supplies may be interrupted. 24 hour power from Guerrero Negro arrived just a few years ago and cell service while not
yet there, could be coming soon.
The history is fascinating and dates back to the native Indians who had a rancheria (settlement) here. The Spanish explorers named the bay and the
nearby mission at San Borja established a visita at Los Angeles Bay to serve the natives. A spring of sweet water still supplies some of the town's
water and is located at the base of the mountain that comes down to the town. Indian artifacts were recovered here by a team lead by William Massey,
50 years ago.
The discovery of gold and silver to the south of town at Santa Marta and San Juan and gold west at Desengaņo brought modern settlers to the bay and
some, like Dick Daggett and Antero Diaz stayed. Diaz built the first tourist resort for fly-in guests in the 1940's. By the 1960's, pilots were the
primary guests but more and more drove the 300 dirt miles to enjoy the fishing, adventures and Sra. Diaz world famous turtle steak dinners.
The 1970's saw a big influx of RV campers with the building of the paved Highway 1 and graded road into Bahia de los Angeles (which was paved in a
few more years)... Casa Diaz had competition with the opening of the Villa Vita Hotel and many stayed at the government trailer park north of town.
Children of the original founders of the town continue operating motels, campgrounds, fishing guides and many new residents have added to the
population.
For a few years the dream of an Escalera Nautica 'sea bridge' to bring yachts from the Pacific across to the gulf was exciting locals. A new highway
to the new port of Santa Rosalillita was built and the route to Bahia de los Angeles had paved turnouts added frequently so cars could pass the
special truck/trailers that were to ferry yachts from Santa Rosalillita on the Pacific to Bahia de los Angeles. The idea died when the reality of
costs, and reduced prosperity in America killed the potential customer base.
Now, Bahia de los Angeles is a pretty quiet village with the drop in tourism. The only big event seems to be when the Baja 1000 off road race passes
through here every 2-4 years when the race makes a run down the length of the peninsula.
The viewpoint is a pullout as you first see the panorama of the bay. Photos from July, 2012.
[Edited on 12-26-2012 by David K]
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mtgoat666
Platinum Nomad
Posts: 20376
Registered: 9-16-2006
Location: San Diego
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Mood: Hot n spicy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Retireded
Merry Christmas All,
Can anyone offer any input about the Bahia de Los Angeles area? I have been offered the opportunity to buy a piece of land there, semi improved, for
what seems a very reasonable price. ... Any input will be appreciated as I have never yet been there. We are thinking of taking a ride sometime in
the next few weeks to look it over. Ensenada is as far south as we have ventured thus far,... |
re BOLA, nice place to visit, would not want to live there long term. can be uncomfortably hot and/or windy. is a long ways away from any
conveniences.
advice: rent before you buy, and visit for a weekend before you rent for a month.
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Udo
Elite Nomad
Posts: 6364
Registered: 4-26-2008
Location: Black Hills, SD/Ensenada/San Felipe
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I'm in BOLA right now, and I have seen some people having cell phones in their hand.
VERY nice place to visit as well as live, but somewhat sparse in commodities.
Couple of nice taco stands as well as several restaurants. And We are staying at the Costa Del Sol Hotel...which HAS INTERNET WIFI!
We walked to the light house on the sand bar. Very nice walk.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Marc
There's no cell phone service. There are a couple of internet shops where calls can be made...for a price. |
Udo
Youth is wasted on the young!
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thebajarunner
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 3754
Registered: 9-8-2003
Location: Arizona....."Free at last from crumbling Cali
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Mood: muy amable
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Rude? A realist!
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by 24baja
And Dennis your tone is kinda rude.... |
KINDA rude? Thanks for telling me. I'll have to work on that, fer sure. Anything worth doing is worth doing well.
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[Edited on 12-26-2012 by DENNIS] |
Dennis is spot on! Wise words.
LABay is a grungy town, sorry to say
My traveling gang has a fixation on the place. Been there often. Would not want to live there
Udo...no cell service six months ago
I suspect they were $atphone$
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Marc
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 2802
Registered: 5-15-2010
Location: San Francisco & Palm Springs
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Udo
I'm in BOLA right now, and I have seen some people having cell phones in their hand.
VERY nice place to visit as well as live, but somewhat sparse in commodities.
Couple of nice taco stands as well as several restaurants. And We are staying at the Costa Del Sol Hotel...which HAS INTERNET WIFI!
We walked to the light house on the sand bar. Very nice walk.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Marc
There's no cell phone service. There are a couple of internet shops where calls can be made...for a price. |
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We saw hand held satellite phone being used. No cell service in October.
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BOLARNR
Newbie
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Registered: 2-24-2010
Location: Aptos, CA.
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I've been going to my place in LA Bay for 8 yrs and I'm glad to get there and only sorry when I leave. It's not for everyone, no place is, but to get
away and experience the desert and the water in one place,................ invaluable. To be woke up by a noisy pod of Dolphins chasing a bait ball or
an occasional Whale with a sinus problem....... incredible. Sure it can be windy, hot and inconvenient. But what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
Oh yea, I lease
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Lobsterman
Super Nomad
Posts: 1815
Registered: 10-7-2008
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LA Bay is one of my favorite locations to fish in baja. The fish are abundant and delicious to eat. The weather changes are sudden and dramatic,
i.e. beautiful one minute and 50 mph winds the next. We were lucky to get back alive once under those conditions. The blowing dust from the winds is
a definate problem. It gets everywhere.
I had planned on leasing a home there once I retired a few years back before the current crime wave that is affecting most of baja. You use to be able
to camp out on lonely beaches without fear or leave your possessions unguarded. Those days are gone forever. My guess it's the drug use of the
locals and the cartels that has caused a major decrease from visitors from NOB, thus a poorer needy population. So do not bring and leave anything in
baja that you want to keep. Everything left behind must be expendable.
It's been 5 years since I've ventured south from San Diego. I have plans to re-kindle my baja fishing adventures again before I get too old to do
them. LA Bay is on the short list for a return probably late spring before I forget my favorite fishing holes. I found the town quite adequate for
anything you might need and less than a 16 hour drive from the border. Since I'm not too fond of the attitudes and philosophies of most NOB people, I
like the solitude and peace and quiet you find there without them.
Here's a expose' on my last fishing trip there from 2007.
http://www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/baja-mexico-fishing-reports...
[Edited on 12-27-2012 by Lobsterman]
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captkw
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 3850
Registered: 10-19-2010
Location: el charro b.c.s.
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Mood: new dog/missing the old 1
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have not been there for 15/19 yrs
but,,,the 2 times I have,,WIND,,WIND,,WIND,,WIND,,WIND,,WIND!!!!!
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David K
Honored Nomad
Posts: 65411
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
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Nice pics Lobsterman!
Capt. KW, go in the summer as winds mostly in the spring.
November was also nice... photos from Nov. 2006, following the Baja 1000:
At Guillermo's:
Up at La Gringa:
Smith Island volcano:
Leaving the bay:
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Hook
Elite Nomad
Posts: 9011
Registered: 3-13-2004
Location: Sonora
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Verily, it is the WIND and the unusually cold water (for the SoC) that keeps BOLA, a place with:
-proximity; a days drive from the border
-pavement all the way
-decent restaurants and lodging
-adequate supplies, including fuel
-superb scenery
-decent fishing
still feeling like it is remote.
The famous winds make returning only an occasional thing, if you dont have a place there. When I was working and had limited vacation time, I realized
that a big chunk of it could be spent stranded on the beach in the wind. It was better to drive farther south, usually to the SLC/Mulege area.
Especially true in the winter/spring months. Then, July-September become too hot to camp at night, though nice during the day. The best months for me
were June and late October.
This is a fisherman's perspective.
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