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brewer
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vandenberg
| Quote: | Originally posted by Ateo[/i
Are these agents the most disgruntled, disgusting, sad people to roam the Earth?  |
Yes, a holes on a power trip. |
Must agree.
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motoged
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Returning from a month-long ride in Baja a few years back, the border crossing at Tecate was smooth (three guys, bikes and gear). We took an Arizona
route north and somewhere out in the middle of nowhere was a border agent inspection stop. We were rather surprised to be stopped hundreds of miles
north of the border, but the agent was cool and we talked dirtbikes while his German shepherd stood up to our open windows as we talked for several
minutes. I was not thinking about the dog as much as I could have, but patted his head as he stood up to my window.
Boy, I am sure glad he didn't sit down   
[Edited on 6-4-2013 by motoged]
Don't believe everything you think....
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Bajajorge
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| Quote: | Originally posted by brewer
| Quote: | Originally posted by vandenberg
| Quote: | Originally posted by Ateo[/i
Are these agents the most disgruntled, disgusting, sad people to roam the Earth? |
Yes, a holes on a power trip. |
Must agree. |
And then when a hugh batch of Mexican meth, marijuana or other illegal substance comes across the border and screws up one of your kids, you bellyache
about the disgruntled, discusting, sad people not doing their jobs. Damn government employees.
Why do Liberals insist and demand that achievers pay the way for nonachievers who are to lazy to succeed, or are just failures by their own choice?
Criminals prefer unarmed victims, dictators prefer unarmed subjects.
Why do ignorant people continue their blabbering when it only proves to others how stupid they are.
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Lee
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BAJA.DESERT.RAT...
i guess dyke forgets who they are working for and whose paying their wages ??
BIEN SALUD, DA RAT |
You're not taking this personally enough. Really, she just didn't like YOU. The way you looked or your attitude.
I'm guessing for her personality type, she took great sastisfaction in dressing you down. She's got the badge and gun. What do you have?
When I was in LE, I knew lots of cops like this. Joint or kilo, you're going to jail.
So, relax, have fun and smile. You do not want to be sent to the fenced area, or be put on the list.
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monoloco
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The last time I was sent to secondary, an agent chewed me out because his co-worker who directed me into secondary failed to put the paperwork under
my windshield wiper. Like it was somehow my responsibility to make sure the
guy in the booth followed proper procedure.
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Bajajorge
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If you don't make it through Secondary, cuz you're packin something illegal. You'll then have something to post on the "Off Topic" section of the BN
forum that asks, "Tell us about your arrest record".
Why do Liberals insist and demand that achievers pay the way for nonachievers who are to lazy to succeed, or are just failures by their own choice?
Criminals prefer unarmed victims, dictators prefer unarmed subjects.
Why do ignorant people continue their blabbering when it only proves to others how stupid they are.
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Tbone
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A couple of friends and I got pulled into secondary last Saturday afternoon because we were towing a boat. The agents were polite and respectful and
had us on our way in about 10 minutes. I have been in secondary now 3 or 4 times and each time was treated good. I’m sure that attitude has allot to
do with making going to secondary a bad experience.
Mas Pacifico
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Ateo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajajorge
| Quote: | Originally posted by brewer
| Quote: | Originally posted by vandenberg
| Quote: | Originally posted by Ateo[/i
Are these agents the most disgruntled, disgusting, sad people to roam the Earth? |
Yes, a holes on a power trip. |
Must agree. |
And then when a hugh batch of Mexican meth, marijuana or other illegal substance comes across the border and screws up one of your kids, you bellyache
about the disgruntled, discusting, sad people not doing their jobs. Damn government employees. |
No way would I bellyache that they aren't doing their jobs trying to keep drugs away from my kids. That is my job to monitor my kids.
Huge batches are coming thru with or without the border patrol. That is a fact.
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Ateo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Tbone
A couple of friends and I got pulled into secondary last Saturday afternoon because we were towing a boat. The agents were polite and respectful and
had us on our way in about 10 minutes. I have been in secondary now 3 or 4 times and each time was treated good. I’m sure that attitude has allot to
do with making going to secondary a bad experience. |
Glad to hear you had a good experience. Which crossing?
My attitude is always stellar in these situations. They are the boss, and I treat them that way. The way they treated me was unfortunate and morally
wrong.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Tbone
A couple of friends and I got pulled into secondary last Saturday afternoon because we were towing a boat. The agents were polite and respectful and
had us on our way in about 10 minutes. I have been in secondary now 3 or 4 times and each time was treated good. I’m sure that attitude has allot to
do with making going to secondary a bad experience. |
As Jimmy Buffet would say in song: "I have good days and bad days, and going half madd days."
That pretty well describes our experiences at the border.
Grin and bear it, folks. Nothing's gonna change until one of the uptight inspectors pulls out his pistol and drains a clip into an old lady who picks
up her cane and he'll say he thought it was a gun.
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durrelllrobert
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Before my Canadian wife got her green card (that took 2 years and 2 trips to Juarez from time of application) we got use to going to secondary every
time we crossed. Usual 30-45 minutes but on one occasion when I was asked "where are you going" and I replied "to secondary" he wasn't amused. I don't
know what he wrote on the orange slip he put under the wiper but that time we sat in secondary for almost 2 hours before anyone even approached my
truck. 
Bob Durrell
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Bwana_John
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I think it is standard procedure to "sweat you" for awhile in secondary.
No one comes around for so long on purpose, that way you are more freaked out by the time they get to you and you are an easier "read".
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bajalearner
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I crossed in SENTRI 2 years ago and a female gestapo agent barked at me and when I defended myself, she mumbled that she would revoke my SENTRI and
walked me over to secondary. She disappeared for awhile and then walked past me back to her booth. Two agents came to me and said she accused me of
non compliance and they would hear my side and decide the case. After hearing me, they let me keep my SENTRI and said no further action is needed.
I wrote a 2 page description of the gestapo's actions and mailed it to CBP HQ back east. I have never heard anything from their investigation of the
agent's actions. I don't know what they decided, but I have never seen her again at the border after crossing 2x a day for 2 years. I'm hoping I
they got rid of her.
I have only had 2 bad encounters and both agents were female's with pms symptoms (Patrol Manic syndrome).
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajalearner
I wrote a 2 page description of the gestapo's actions and mailed it to CBP HQ back east. I have never heard anything from their investigation of the
agent's actions. |
That shouldn't come as a surprise. Folks who think this nasty behavior is an aberration, are deluding themselves. These people are performing their
part just as planned and approved. If not, there wouldn't be anyone left working for them, but some of us have seen the same a-holes working there
throughout the years and their demeanor stays the same.
We just have to learn to perform our part as well as they do theirs. Comply to everything in stone silence and volunteer nothing. Take their abuse
and leave.
It's over when they say it is.
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aguachico
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I cross the border 4 times a week on average. I very rarely have a problem with the CBP. They are always polite and respectful. Even when I have to
lug the Grady into secondary. No problems. I for one am very glad the are manning our borders. The rules are simple. Have your paper work ready and
accessible, just like when you fly. Answer the questions in a tone of voice that is respectful and there are no issues. When you sigh, huff and puff
like you are too good to be questioned... the attitude comes right back at you.
I have CBP friends and they are good people. Their job is not the best, but they take it very seriously. so just relax, it's 5 minutes. No different
then the TSA experience you pay for...
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Ateo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by aguachico
I cross the border 4 times a week on average. I very rarely have a problem with the CBP. They are always polite and respectful. Even when I have to
lug the Grady into secondary. No problems. I for one am very glad the are manning our borders. The rules are simple. Have your paper work ready and
accessible, just like when you fly. Answer the questions in a tone of voice that is respectful and there are no issues. When you sigh, huff and puff
like you are too good to be questioned... the attitude comes right back at you.
I have CBP friends and they are good people. Their job is not the best, but they take it very seriously. so just relax, it's 5 minutes. No different
then the TSA experience you pay for... |
Glad to hear your experiences go well. I'm always respectful, never sighing, always looking into the eyes and always following orders glady, like a
golden retriever ready to please their master.
I have 1 CBP friend and he's racist against blacks and mexicans.
I used to hear him say the N word all the time, while he was still a Marine just prior to joining CBP.
I couldn't be more respectful of them as I approach the gate. Not sure what I'm doing to get such poor treatment.
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aguachico
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Ateo;
Sorry to hear your friend is racist, he should meet my mom. She's black - she doesn't like any race... until she gets to know them.
Flip it around.
I deal with Mexican immigration more so than CBP. That is because they are posted more south as I travel. This would include military check points
and Guerrero Negro. I am always pulled into secondary heading south, especially at the border. I used to hate it and get peeed - a why me attitude.
I would speak no spanish, forcing these power tripping buttcracks to speak english. Then I realized they were targeting large vehicles that could
carry large amounts of guns and money. Then they started hiring some nice female eye candy - that spoke english. Then getting pulled into secondary
was not so bad and only an problem if I was in a hurry.
some are very nice, flirty, cool to talk to, Some are f'n buttcrack chilango mofo's that i would love to pimp slap and date their mother.
it rolls both ways.
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Bajafun777
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Hmmm, for 47 years I have been crossing the borders in Texas, Arizona and California and maybe 3 times have I encountered an agent that may have been
a little hard in their approach. However, it was nothing that I have not experienced in school, college, stores, public parks etc. with employees or
from private citizens at these places. So, I guess everybody has some good, bad and maybe just maybe some ugly that happens but to go hardline making
strong hateful statements about all of these agents working the ports or check points is really going over the top a bit my nomad friends.
Here's to happy times and may your next crossing just be a friendly "go right ahead," as you ride into whatever State you have choosen to re-enter
from Mexico. Again, enjoy life and don't let the small stuff overwhelm you, as you have too much FUN waiting just around the next corner of LIFE.
LOL Take Care & Travel Safe--- "No Hurry, No Worry, Just FUN" bajafun777
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dtbushpilot
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I cross the border often, I've been to secondary a few times but don't usually have to go. I am usually pulling an enclosed trailer and have a zoo's
worth of cats and dogs in the truck. If I can get them to look in the trailer (empty) at the crossing I usually get sent on my way. In 20 years of
crossing I can only remember one or two times that I have had someone be rude to me, usually they are either pleasant or professional. I've been asked
what I have in the pet carriers and I've replied "cats", sometimes they will ask "what breed of dog is that"? and I will say "Mexican Dingo"...they
usually just say "huh". I've never been asked for papers for any of them at the crossing or in secondary.
The last time I went to secondary I was directed into a parking space by a young man, I could see that it would be difficult for me to exit the
parking lot from that space pulling a trailer but what the heck, I'm pretty good at backing up. I waited a while in the little waiting area with 2
dogs on leashes and watched the agents doing their jobs. They weren't in any particular hurry but they were getting people processed. The kid who
directed me to the parking space was following another guy around learning the ropes, obviously an "agent in training". After I was inspected and
given permission to leave I told the young agent that I would need to back out of this space and go around. He told me not to park there next
time.....I reminded him that it was he who directed me to this space. He said "yea, I know, it's my first day".
I've never had a bad experience at the border North or South, maybe it's just my smiling happy face that makes the difference. I always thank the guys
at the border checkpoints along the highway for their service, they seem to appreciate it, I'll bet they don't get that from too many people....
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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CortezBlue
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We had a similar situation when we crossed at TJ last July 4. We have SENTRI, but was selected for secondary.
Waited about a half hour and had a young guy, who was actually kind of friendly, come over and asked if we had brought anything back. We told him
Tequila. We had about 4 bottles, but he didn't say anything about it.
He told me that I drove through an Xray machine, but he said 80% of the time it didn't work.
He slapped a sticker on the window and away we went.
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