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[*] posted on 6-15-2013 at 08:37 AM


Kingfisher boats are made right here in town

Better have one big wallet to afford one

I looked at a used one...Only $189k




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[*] posted on 6-15-2013 at 08:55 AM


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As a precautionary tool in helping to avoid, or slow down the corrosion, look into obtaining some "Salt Away" solution that helps with a more complete removal of dried on salt....over and above what only fresh water will provide.


On edit.....the SaltAway will also help cut the salt residue from your motor(s) cooling system more so than fresh water alone.

[Edited on 6-15-2013 by DaliDali]

[Edited on 6-15-2013 by DaliDali]


Anyone try this stuff on aluminum framed windows and screens?
The salt air is eating mine up.




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[*] posted on 6-15-2013 at 09:30 AM


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As a precautionary tool in helping to avoid, or slow down the corrosion, look into obtaining some "Salt Away" solution that helps with a more complete removal of dried on salt....over and above what only fresh water will provide.


On edit.....the SaltAway will also help cut the salt residue from your motor(s) cooling system more so than fresh water alone.

[Edited on 6-15-2013 by DaliDali]

[Edited on 6-15-2013 by DaliDali]


Anyone try this stuff on aluminum framed windows and screens?
The salt air is eating mine up.


It won't "undo" the previous damage caused by salt air corrosion, but will assist in cutting any "saltish" residue deposited by air borne salt.
One thing is for certain.....it won't hurt to use it.

I use SaltAway on nearly anything.....from the boat trailer, engine cooling system and rods and reels.
It comes out of an attachment you screw onto a hose end with a "soapy" like, bubbling, foamy consistency.

Reputed to be 100% bio-degradable and non-toxic to plants or animals or humans.

A few years ago I bought a brand new Yamaha 4 stroke outboard engine. Naturally I was concerned about flushing.
The dealer told me in a manner so "matter of factly" (hype who knows) that the motor would last (less corrosion) years longer vs. only fresh water.
I said "bag it up" and have used it every time after motor use since then.

I am sure there are detractors who would say "hogwash" to using anything other than fresh water.

I use a non-metallic, fabric screen material to avoid what you just said.

[Edited on 6-15-2013 by DaliDali]
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[*] posted on 6-15-2013 at 11:06 AM


I have never seen a Mexican fisherman in an aluminum boat. That must tell you something.
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[*] posted on 6-15-2013 at 11:19 AM


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Because of the high salinity in the Sea of Cortez, one still needs to take extra precaution against electrolisis, ...


Don't mean to hijack this thread, but I've seen this mentioned a few times about the SOC, and not sure where this comes from. In fact the salinity of the SOC is between 3.50 and 3.58% (higher in the North) and the average salinity of the Pacific Ocean is 3.50%. The Red Sea is the "saltiest" ocean at 4.0%. The Salton Sea is 4.4%

Just saying.............

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thanks for debunking the high salinity myth, imagine this, the north end of the great salt lake, a whopping 28%! :o
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[*] posted on 6-15-2013 at 11:20 AM


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I have never seen a Mexican fisherman in an aluminum boat. That must tell you something.
It tells me that an aluminum boat suited for commercial fishing is pretty expensive and hard to come by in Mexico.



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[*] posted on 6-15-2013 at 11:45 AM


It tells me that the pangeros know that pangas are safer, last longer and are purpose built for the Baja. How many times can you run a metal boat up on the beach at full throttle before it implodes. Pangeros don't have the luxury of daintily exiting the water at Costa Lota.
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[*] posted on 6-15-2013 at 12:30 PM


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Thank you for your input! The boat is 30'... if the boat is trailerable and so no worry about electrolysis, would you think there would be any reason why it wouldn't be a great fishing boat in Baja, as it is in the North?


Absolutely, it would make a great fishing boat. Make sure the Zinc sacrificials are changed every couple of years. One on the motor which is also a trim tab, and usually one that is grounded and is on the bottom of the motor mounts on an outboard. Inboards usually do the same thing and have zincs mounted several places and includes the prop shaft. You will still get electrolysis just driving the boat in the water.
A lot of Aluminum boats of that quality and caliber were painted with an epoxy paint that held up really well to the conditions. After many years of owning a Quintrex, I have heard all the stories about heat in the summer, and all the other problems, but somehow I managed to put 4500 hours on that boat before selling it and it now is moored in the water and looks like it may well go another 4500 hrs.
Another thing that is a real plus on an aluminum boat is the fuel mileage. Anytime you have a lighter boat, it is more economical to push through the water, unless poor design adds un-needed friction.




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[*] posted on 6-15-2013 at 12:33 PM


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It tells me that the pangeros know that pangas are safer, last longer and are purpose built for the Baja. How many times can you run a metal boat up on the beach at full throttle before it implodes. Pangeros don't have the luxury of daintily exiting the water at Costa Lota.
I guarantee that these boat are as tough or tougher and just as safe as any panga.
http://www.pacificskiffs.com/index.php




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[*] posted on 6-15-2013 at 01:53 PM


Pangas were, and are built to be cheap, sturdy, easy to repair, everyday work boats. There are a lot of better boats for sportfishing, and they all cost more than a panga.
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[*] posted on 6-15-2013 at 02:09 PM


no question the hot surfaces on these boats can be a real problem but nothing that cant be remedied with some indoor/outdoor carpeting and anti fatigue matting.
im hearing the term electrolysis being flung around willynilly, what youre talking about here is galvanic corrosion (caused by dissimilar metals in an electrolyte) and not electrolytic corrosion (caused by an external current).
and with ANY kind of coating you WILL experience crevice corrosion. the unsightly oxidation you see on aluminum is there to protect it. take a look at any piece of aluminum thats been painted.
I'd buy it, sounds like a b-tchin boat!:D
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[*] posted on 6-15-2013 at 03:10 PM


what does fiberglass/resin cost versus aluminum? THAT'S why pangas are not made of aluminum.....



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[*] posted on 6-15-2013 at 05:50 PM


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Also,you can "splash" a fiberglass hull but you can't "splash' an aluminum hull.


?????????? please explain "splash".

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[*] posted on 6-15-2013 at 07:37 PM


Pure BS Steve Dashew has been traveling around the world, for like 40 years in bare aluminum boats, now he has shifted from sail to power, he designed his power boat, now called FPB (Fast Power Boat) and has cruised the world including Baja, without galvanic problems, aluminum is a fine boat building material
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[*] posted on 6-15-2013 at 07:42 PM


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Also,you can "splash" a fiberglass hull but you can't "splash' an aluminum hull.


?????????? please explain "splash".

Barry


mold, mass produce. Each aluminium hull is "hand made"
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[*] posted on 6-16-2013 at 08:06 AM


we've got two gregors; one in mulege, one in sequim washington...the oldest one, in mulege, shows no sign of degredation and it's 14 yrs old now....EVERYTIME it is used, however, it is completely flushed and washed down with saltaway, including all rods/reels/trailer/winch/ etc...looks like it came off the showroom floor...same with the one up north..saltaway is the answer in saltwater environments.



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[*] posted on 6-16-2013 at 08:52 AM


HOW ABOUT THIS!

http://bajasur.en.craigslist.com.mx/boa/3787092746.html




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[*] posted on 6-16-2013 at 10:09 AM


saltaway= cheap detergent and vinegar, mix it in a sprayer and if you can, use hot water. buy pacifico's with the dough you saved and have a happy fathers day:yes:
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[*] posted on 6-17-2013 at 08:08 AM


Thanks for your replies to my question. We have the boat (Kingfisher) in B.C. It's perfect here, but having trouble convincing my better half that it could be good in Baja too...we'll see...
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[*] posted on 6-17-2013 at 03:30 PM


That is a long ways to pull a 30 foot boat. Are you thinking of leaving it in La Paz, or pulling both ways? That would be a deal breaker for me.
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