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monoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Lee
There are 2 Camps: those who think going to the Station means they'll get justice (by pleading their case), and those who have been to the Station
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There's a third as well. Keeping the money out of the street cop's hands might discourage him from being a hatchet-man for the judge in the future.
He may no longer bother with the lies and fantasies if he's not seeing the ill-gotten gains.
It all starts with him, and there may be a chance it will end right there. |
Exactly, as long as the majority
of suckers will open their wallets they'll keep preying on people. It's much better to go to the station and take your lumps (or not) and cut the
mordilones out of the loop.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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tripledigitken
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
....I've yet to see or hear of any bad happenings on that road. |
Are you just talking about policia targeting gringos? Certainly the bodies dumped there by Narco's has been published in the local papers and copied
online.
Ken
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Bajahowodd
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Never even seen Tecate police as I transited through towb. That siad, my only gripe about the Tecate crossing is with the Mexican army troops that
"direct" traffic. I stopped counting the number of Mexican plated vehicles that drove up and were allowed to cut the line to go right into the border
checkpoint. What's that all about?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
Are you just talking about policia targeting gringos?
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Of course. Nothing more.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
What's that all about? |
It's probably about twenty dollars.
I asked the US inspector at the booth what was up and she said it takes place in Mexico and there's nothing they could do about it.
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tripledigitken
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
Are you just talking about policia targeting gringos?
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Of course. Nothing more. |
I'm not surprised as I know you read the local news sources.
Ken
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
I'm not surprised as I know you read the local news sources.
Ken |
Worst part of that road for me is the dead dogs that follow their people across the road instead of using the foot bridges.
Very sad.
Yeah...I know it's a body dump as well, but the poor dogs......
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
I'm not surprised as I know you read the local news sources.
Ken |
Worst part of that road for me is the dead dogs that follow their people across the road instead of using the foot bridges.
Very sad.
Yeah...I know it's a body dump as well, but the poor dogs...... |
Body dump as well? In Tecate? Could you
elaborate? Am I missing something?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by brewer
Body dump as well? In Tecate? Could you elaborate? Am I missing something? |
Actually, we were discussing Blvd. 2000, from Otay to the Highway -1 Toll Road. It has a reputation for being a favorite road used by the drug folks
for dumping victim's bodies...all, or in parts.......probably for it's semi-isolation in some areas.
File this under, "Things the Image Committee won't tell you."
"Don't drive at night."
"You can't litter aluminum."
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Then there's the story posted here of the guy charged with not having his dogs in a kennel or with seat belts (might have been the stop sign scam) and
the Tecate Cops searched his truck, found couple knives, went to the Station and was told he would be put in jail and his truck impounded if he didn't
pay up. (Wife was outside in the truck.) Guess the trucker paid the Cops what they demanded.
Any positive stories about scam stops that end up at the Station?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Lee
Any positive stories about scam stops that end up at the Station? |
I've heard some, but never committed them to memory. Just kinda took honest and fair treatment for granted.
We all know it's not the individual cop on the street. It's the system and they're all part of it. That's why I have no faith in the SINDICATURA
solution. They will not prosecute their own. The stories we sometimes hear to the contrary are PR BS as far as I'm concerned.
In spite of that, there have been lots of stories of people getting a fair shake at the station after it's already been established the street cop is
a reprehensible thief.
I also feel this will never change in our lifetime. Even Wall Street pursues the easy money. It seems to be human nature.
That said....the "good fight" is still our obligation. It's our part of the contract.
"Take me to the juez. I don't mind waiting."
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[Edited on 9-3-2013 by DENNIS]
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David K
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Sometime over 3 years ago, they changed the name to CORREDOR 2000...
Here's a photo taken between the Otay Border and the start of the 'Corredor', which begins just to the south of where the Toll Highway to Tecate (from
Tijuana) begins (photos from Sept., 2010):
Another sign calls it CORR TIJUANA-ROSARITO:
SOUTHBOUND from Otay Border, first follow signs for the Tecate Toll Road (2-D) and you will turn east onto BLVD. INDUSTRIAL:
Please excuse the glare, but this is the sign where you split to the right (signed for ROSARITO) and the Toll highway to Tecate is to the left:
Getting dark, but this is the sign at the south (or west) end of the Corredor, just south of the Fox Baja Studio (Titanic Movie Set) at Popotla:
NORTHBOUND (2007):
The end of the Corredor...
This is looking at the start of the Tecate Toll Highway.
AAA Map showing the new highway:
Here is a road log I made in 2007 after first using the BLVD. 2000 (now CORREDOR 2000):
MEXICO at Otay Border: Mile 0.0, Time 0:0
Head straight south, staying in left lanes. Follow signs for TECATE.
LEFT TURN at signal, slight curve to left just before signal: Mile 1.1, Time 0:03
Heading east on Blvd. Industrial... soon becomes divided highway!
Take new highway south, signed for Rosarito, Popotla, Ensenada.
Toll highway 2-D to Tecate curves to left, see toll gate, Big Horn Sheep monument almost unseen heading south: Mile 6.0, Time 0:13
Free Hwy. 2 (TECATE) interchange, continue south then southwest: Mile 13.0, Time 0:22
Cross the Rodriguez/ Tijuana reservoir and head into the hills...
Pass under the toll highway (Mex. 1-D) and come to the free highway (Mex. 1)... Mile 31.3, Time 0:38.
They will have it connected to the toll highway, but that work seems stalled. Too bad, but until then go a few miles on the free road to almost Puerto
Nuevo where you can hop on the toll road for free.
Fox Baja Studio entrance is just to your right, Puerto Nuevo and access onto the toll highway is about 6 miles to your left.
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On the SOUTH side of the big park that is impossible to miss in Tecate is the tourism office. File a complaint. It will not go into the waste basket.
It seems NO ONE here is doing this, filing a complaint. If you have done this personally, please respond below.
Mexican cabrones de patrulla get on their knees every morning and pray to god to encounter a gringo. They KNOW FOR A FACT they can milk them like a
Guernsey, and then the gringos will RUN AWAY to the border with their tail between their legs.
Hey Dennis, how's this for a flame?
Have a 50' bus towing a 40' trailer, park in the gawdamn street right in front of the tourist office. The cops will NOT HASSLE YOU.
[Edited on 9-3-2013 by DavidE]
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
Hey Dennis, how's this for a flame?
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Finest kind, David. High quality, fer sure. Keep up the good work.
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Bajahowodd
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I am wondering just what advantage there is by crossing S/B at Otay and heading over to 2000. While I would not dream of coming up N/B at SY, the S.B
transit is really a breeze. Is it about saving a few bucks worth of tolls on the scenic highway?
For us, the ongoing view is well worth the pittance we pay.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
I am wondering just what advantage there is by crossing S/B at Otay and heading over to 2000. While I would not dream of coming up N/B at SY, the S.B
transit is really a breeze. Is it about saving a few bucks worth of tolls on the scenic highway?
For us, the ongoing view is well worth the pittance we pay. |
To AVOID the Tijuana/ San Ysidro border and Tijuana city traffic to the toll road at Playas de Tijuana... if you are headed for Rosarito or any point
south of Rosarito.
Otay to the Corredor 2000 is 6 miles, and only about 2-3 miles are city street traffic and only one turn (onto Industrial) that entire 6 miles.
I don't get driving 40 miles into the mountains for Tecate only to come back to the coast, unless you wanted to drive through Guadalupe Valley... but
that is just me going southbound. Now, northbound I would always go to Tecate because of the border wait at both Tijuana or Otay. However, twice I
have had 3 hour or longer border waits at Tecate... but just twice.
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This may be another nail in the coffin for the Tecate NORTHBOUND crossing:
Two Mondays ago, at 10:00 a.m.I was the 3rd car in line...less than three minutes!
However, the SBO CBP agent decided to "profile" Jana and I and sent us into secondary.
Were there about 20 minutes. They went through every luggage bag and our refrigerator. They found 8 slices of salami wrapped in a baggie. They said
that salami (even though processed and brought in from NOB) was PORK and PORK is on the prohibited list. So they confiscated it. You shoudda seen how
they left the contents of our fridge.
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David K
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This new crew of hyped up border guards have made it (for us) no point in saving any food. Even the allowed items (limes) are considered forbidden by
the untrained officers and after 20 min. in secondary, a laugh by the ag officer and told us to go (as limes are quite okay to bring across).
Give leftovers or uneaten food to the army checkpoint guys or anyone before coming home!
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"Take me to the juez, I can wait!"
new bumper sticker....
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David K
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Here is the CORREDOR 2000 (added in black) on the 2003 Baja Almanac:
The blue highlight route is an off road trail we ran with The Squarecircle and others back in 2005: http://vivabaja.com/305/
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