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absinvestor
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Been there many times. Beautiful remote beach. We found the beach when talking to the prior Mulege Chief of Police. He gave us directions etc.
However, he warned us not to leave anything of value in the parked car. He suggested we leave the windows down so a potential robber didn't break a
window to get in (only to find that there was nothing of value inside.) We also had a car top carrier that we left unlocked and open. On our last trip
I helped the local Mexican that lives in a camper shell loosen the lug nuts on his flat tire. He didn't speak any English but we visited for a couple
of hours about the beach etc. He said not to leave anything of value etc. No violence but lots of petty burglaries etc. The beach is beautiful and we
considered building a palapa etc- however, the remote location is ripe for burglaries and it is too easy for anyone to know once you've left they'll
have plenty of time to steal your stuff. The terrible road in would get old really quick and you would have to haul your own water from a fairly
distant location etc
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absinvestor
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Sorry, originally tried to attach a pic that was too large!!
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bajamoosey
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lots for sale here already have fideiconiso . ican use a desalinator way cheaper than hauling water. when we visited recently a 2wd vehicle made it
with out trouble i can see there are a couple of spots that could get bad . gps showed 3 mi from beach to hwy. but does anybody know if theres a way
to get contact info on other owners ,if 30 people got together a care taker would be reasonable
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willyAirstream
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The other 29 are going to pay a caretaker to watch their sand? There are many rumors about this beach and it`s current use.
It is a buyers market here, you can find beach property, with solar, water storage, generators, everything you need for much cheaper than starting
from scratch, in a known area.
Suggest you camp in the areas you like, or rent a house and explore. Want something different? Check out the hill side of Coyote.
[Edited on 9-14-2013 by willyAirstream]
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mulegemichael
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good advise, wily/richard...check it out, bro...lots of opportunidads...spend some time...git ta know the folk first....if you like them, construct
your life...if you don't, go back to urban america and see how far that gits ya...not a pretty pic, methinks...altho i still claim it as my own!..and
always will...HOT TIP!!!....mulege is a really cool community with a tight kinship among it's residents ...we all know and accept each other and grow
with every storm............."should that be a bonding issue???".....maybe not...but WE don't care cause it's only water!!!...no....wait a
minute???....member how the "water" screwed up the house last time????........yeah...i do...but roz says it "weeds out the weak"...maybe that applied
a few years ago but now i feel a little, "weak"...or more...m and r.
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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David K
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Is Ricardo Castillo still active in town?
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absinvestor
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I don't know if desalination is practical for shower water etc but maybe you can make it work. You can get to the beach with 2 wheel drive (except
after a storm) but after a few trips the drive in and out becomes old quick. I have the cell number and email for the former Mulege chief of police
who can steer you in the right direction. I have found him to be really helpful and trustworthy. If you would like his info u2u me. Also, if you want
to rent something for a year or so to shop around and get to know the local population he owns several rentals that are within walking distance to
Mulege.
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cocoscabana
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Not sure if this is the same property in Santa Ynez, but 6 years ago we were trying to find friends in the Orchard, Mulege. A well dressed Mexican
approached, and (to make a long story short) after trying to sell us a casita with no luck, he then showed us grandiose plans for lots at Santa
Ynez....bargain price if we bought that same day!!!! (I believe he introduced himself as Roberto or Ricardo, owner/developer of the Casitas in the
Orchard).
We often go to Santa Ynez, never seen any construction there. Would not live so isolated, and the "road" aka a goat trail, often floods/washes out.
Rent before you buy! JMHO
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mtnpop
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Nope, this is not Roberto's development... The one he showed you is closer to San Lucas and The Cove Community at San Lucas... I think the only thing
there is a big sign with "lots for sale"... He never got anything done on the property... Not sure if he actually sold any lots...
Hurricane Jimena in 09 pretty much kicked his butt in the Orchard.. Then TS Paul last Oct pretty much finished off what he still owns.. There are
still about 50 owners in the Orchard that keep cleaning it up and putting it back together.
All of the livable properties in the Orchard are Fideicomiso properties and not leased properties... One of the few parks in area with this.
Several years back there was a 5th wheel out at Inez but it is gone now...
About all you have is beach and sand dunes... don't find many sand dollars lately either..
From my experience only,,, when dealing with the local "developers" be sure to do your due diligence... There are many folks in the area with a
wealth of information... more than glad to fill your head...
Too many of us wandered into Mulege for a visit or short vacation and fell in love and had a purchase contract in less than a week... Not all bad but
not all good...
Sorry for the too much info stream....now we are getting flooded in Colorado
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Alm
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajamoosey
...we are also looking at a lot in a small remote subdivision near the middle of playa santa inez . if we build a small casita there will we be
getting ripped off continuously . playa santa innes is 6 miles north of mulege . |
Are you trying to buy without seeing it? In a hurry to get rid of your money? This playa is not just a remote subdivision, there is no development at
all. You can hardly even see other human dwellings from there. Yes, you will be ripped off continuously. You can't leave there anything other than a
camper shell - and an old one at that. In a place like this, even in an old camper you better stay continuously for the duration of the vacation. You
take a stroll along the beach for 2 hours, and all the food and small items are gone. Even in a developed gringo-town like those along Mulege river or
Concepcion Bay, when you go North forsummer, you better don't leave anything behind, even items of a "camping value". This is Baja, people are poor.
Yes, there are no "casitas" at the future development site called The Cove, South of Sta Rosalia. There are just empty lots and a model home in the
middle, guarded 24/7 by somebody, I could see his pickup. There is a fence and a gate, and I personally wouldn't find much to steal there, and yet
there is a guard on duty. This tells you something about theft problem in Mexico, doesn't it...
I suggest you find some cheap casita to rent, Mulege probably has some to offer after another flood. Camp there for a season, check the area, talk to
people.
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Good advice, but I don't think poor people are why there is crime... It is more likely young people who have been taught it is okay to take something
earned by others to balance conditions (redistribution of wealth).
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absinvestor
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Does depend on where you live. When we lived at El Burro we often left for the entire day. The palapa has a garage door off the beach patio as a main
entrance. That door was never shut (until we left for the US.) All our Mexico belongings from a portable generator to fishing poles to food, to full
gas cans, to full propane tanks, refrigerators etc etc were readily accessible to any potential burglar. At certain times of the year there may only
be one or two other occupied palapas- both of which are several hundred yards away-so it isn't close neighbors preventing theft. When shopping in
Mulege we don't lock our car. We have never had anything stolen. Last year there was a dune buggy stolen from a renter near the lighthouse south of
Mulege. I don't know if the dune buggy was recovered but I do know that within a very short period of time word had spread for miles and everyone
(mainly Mexican residents) were helping to locate that dune buggy. Different areas produce different results. Definitely rent before buying!!!
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Alm
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David - yes, I think it's younger thieves, and a lot of those are potheads.
Mulege is also not that kind of safe paradise where nothing gets stolen because people know each other. It only takes a heavier than usual hurricane
to make them steal things that they normally wouldn't. When caretaker (if there is any) is busy taking care of his own problems. Anything that can be
taken quickly, can be taken - tupperware, food cans, fishing poles, you name it. Must be "something in the air" that comes with natural disasters.
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David K
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Probably the Use It or Lose It thinking going on?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Alm
David - yes, I think it's younger thieves, and a lot of those are potheads.
Mulege is also not that kind of safe paradise where nothing gets stolen because people know each other. It only takes a heavier than usual hurricane
to make them steal things that they normally wouldn't. When caretaker (if there is any) is busy taking care of his own problems. Anything that can be
taken quickly, can be taken - tupperware, food cans, fishing poles, you name it. Must be "something in the air" that comes with natural disasters.
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Thieving in Baja really got out of hand when methamphetamine became readily available. A large percentage of
home break ins around here are by tweakers who have no respect for themselves or anyone else..
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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absinvestor
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All I know is I have never had anything stolen in Mulege. I don't lock the car etc. In the rare instance when someone does get something stolen the
vendors etc are concerned that it happened and the Mexican population goes out of it's way to find the burglar etc. After hurricanes, chabascos etc I
offer whatever I have to help ie canned food, cash etc. I maybe naive but I think they would return the favor.
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Diane and I really like Santa Ynez beach...if th weather is right we now take the boat up there..15 minutes or so...avoid the crappy road and avoid
theft....
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Alm
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chuckie
Diane and I really like Santa Ynez beach...if th weather is right we now take the boat up there..15 minutes or so...avoid the crappy road and avoid
theft.... |
Sure. Stopped there with a kayak many times. Even camped overnight once, but always stayed close to the camp. Nice to camp, no people - which is
precisely the reason why I wouldn't have a casita there 
The safest places that I've seen were those without road access, where you could get by boat only. No people - no trouble.
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willardguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Alm
| Quote: | Originally posted by chuckie
Diane and I really like Santa Ynez beach...if th weather is right we now take the boat up there..15 minutes or so...avoid the crappy road and avoid
theft.... |
Sure. Stopped there with a kayak many times. Even camped overnight once, but always stayed close to the camp. Nice to camp, no people - which is
precisely the reason why I wouldn't have a casita there
The safest places that I've seen were those without road access, where you could get by boat only. No people - no trouble. |
wasn't it around this time last year all those boats and motors were getting stolen on the east cape "by boat"?
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chuckie
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I dont think Santa Ynez is on the east cape....
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