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J.P.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by edm1
| Quote: | Originally posted by J.P.
You wouldn't need a double transferee case on most tandem axel setups one axel acts as a drag axel and is controlled as a in or out from the primary
axel . so if your primary axel is in 4x4 mode the rear axel could be too . the best part its driven from a single drive shaft |
I'm not aware of a transfer case or primary differential, with gears availabe in the 4.10 or 4.38 gears, to drive another axle. Could you please share
which differential or transfer case has 2 output, and still be driven 75-80mph all day? |
Most class A trucks can maintain those speeds I put over a Million miles on a 98 Peter built I owned running Coast to Coast.
Looks to me a rear air ride tandem would be a easy swap.
The physical size is the same as the axel configuration on the motor hone in the picture.
There are only three companies that make transmissions and rear end's in that size. it should pretty easy to re gear a military front axel to match
the rear drive axels.
[Edited on 9-19-2013 by J.P.]
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edm1
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I'm gonna have to look into those air ride tandems. I hope they won't be too heavy for a 16000# rig. Class A or did you mean Class 8? Do those tandem
drives come in lighter trucks?
[Edited on 9-19-2013 by edm1]
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J.P.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by edm1
I'm gonna have to look into those air ride tandems. I hope they won't be too heavy for a 16000# rig. Class A or did you mean Class 8? Do those tandem
drives come in lighter trucks?
[Edited on 9-19-2013 by edm1] |
Yes I meant class 8 I have seen tandem setups in smaller trucks the best thing would go to a truck Salvage yard and browse around There is a big
one on the Transpensula just south of Ensenada. most of those air ride tandem setups are pretty much self contained with their own frame they just
bolt on the frame rails of the truck my worry would be the frame of the motor home. some of the older motor homes were built on truck frames.
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edm1
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Most motorhomes are on either spartan, workhorse, freightliner, oshkosh, deere or gillig chassis, and a few others. The tandem axle/suspension should
be able to be adapted to them. What do you think? My biggest concern would be the tandem axles unsprung weight.
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MMc
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What is you want to do with this thing? Most motor homes will not stand but to the rigors of off road use. I have seen the insides of more then one
trashed by Baja roads, a lift and a new drive line will not fix that. I think, I'm missing something here.
"Never teach a pig to sing it frustrates you and annoys the pig" - W.C.Fields
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RnR
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Why not just convert the front axle and first rear axle to 4x4, (6x4? or 4x6?)?
Leave the tag axle alone. Let it just help support the weight of the RV as it is doing now. Use the other two axles for traction.
If you really need the third axle for traction, the terrain is probably too severe for the motorhome box/insides to survive.
Unless, you just want to do the project because it is different, unique, and a challenge .......
Good Luck.
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David K
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If there is weight on an axle, and those tires are not driven, then that is additional drag on the driven axles and will reduce the advantage of
having 4 wheel drive...
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edm1
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MMc
What is you want to do with this thing? Most motor homes will not stand but to the rigors of off road use. I have seen the insides of more then one
trashed by Baja roads, a lift and a new drive line will not fix that. I think, I'm missing something here. |
Yes u r missing something You have not personally seen MY motorhomes in action :-)
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edm1
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| Quote: | Originally posted by RnR
Why not just convert the front axle and first rear axle to 4x4, (6x4? or 4x6?)?
Leave the tag axle alone. Let it just help support the weight of the RV as it is doing now. Use the other two axles for traction.
If you really need the third axle for traction, the terrain is probably too severe for the motorhome box/insides to survive.
Unless, you just want to do the project because it is different, unique, and a challenge .......
Good Luck. |
Absolutely, I'm inspired to be in the same league as the $250,000 6x6 MB G63 and the custom 6x6 Brabus :-) LOL
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David K
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Art (edm1) has talent in engineering and off road driving skill that makes his custom 4WD motorhomes get to where he wants to go!
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MMc
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I'm sure you can lift the rig and do the 6X6. What I'm saying is the living part of those Mo Hos are not up to the ride you'll be giving it. What good
is a the Motor home when the cabinets and the living area is a mess? That cabinetry is not well put together very well, mostly tacks and some glue it
made to be light weight. The high end units are also well built interiors from birch ply, glue and screw. You're twisting flexing more then the
manufacture even thought about. I predict that built-ins are not up to it.
It your money and time, who am I to say how you should spend it.
"Never teach a pig to sing it frustrates you and annoys the pig" - W.C.Fields
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I've seen first hand what this guy can do w a"motorhome" and on the road in to Sta Maria....I prefer mules myself but this guy has got quite the
talent for gettin' there w not-the-run-of-the-mill 4WD....seriously.....
My other 4WD is a Baja Mule!
La Mula Mil Survivor 2013-2014!
1000 miles by mule from the tip to Tecate!
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mulegemichael
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wow, wow, wow!!!...david, great shots, all...reminds me of our trip across the spine to san juanico after jimena from mulege....literally NO road at
all....just scrambling across the rocks for 50 miles...took us 9 hours ...nothing like a 4 runner to make it happen!!
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David K
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David K
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We don't hear from edm1 (Art) much... See his ability to get a motorhome into and out of Mission Santa María (and pulling Neal's camper up the
Widowmaker, too) is most impressive!
It has been just over 8 years since that epic Nomad group trip!
www.vivabaja.com/msm2010
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rich t
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I would skip the Rockwells, was on Fordyce Trail last week, a guy with a 1995 Chevy four door, tube frame behind cab, coilovers, 47 inch tires and
rockwells broke an axle, he broke the axle next to the splines and it was not any bigger than a Dana 60 35 spline axle.
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Quote: Originally posted by rich t  | | I would skip the Rockwells, was on Fordyce Trail last week, a guy with a 1995 Chevy four door, tube frame behind cab, coilovers, 47 inch tires and
rockwells broke an axle, he broke the axle next to the splines and it was not any bigger than a Dana 60 35 spline axle. |
I thought that Rockwells were indestructible.
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rich t
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| Quote: Originally posted by Ken Cooke | | Quote: Originally posted by rich t | | I would skip the Rockwells, was on Fordyce Trail last week, a guy with a 1995 Chevy four door, tube frame behind cab, coilovers, 47 inch tires and
rockwells broke an axle, he broke the axle next to the splines and it was not any bigger than a Dana 60 35 spline axle. |
I thought that Rockwells were indestructible. |
You can upgrade to a 2 inch axle, but they cost almost as much as your Jeep.
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gnukid
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I seen this for sale in La Paz
 
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David K
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With an overhang like that... not much off roading beyond beach driving could be possible!
Even the rear overhang on my Off Road 4x4 Tacoma is too long for the Mission Santa María road!
and Art's motorhome, too! ...
But, with a little body damage, we all made it!
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