| Pages:
1
2 |
willardguy
Elite Nomad
Posts: 6451
Registered: 9-19-2009
Member Is Offline
|
|
MMc is right david, you ruin everything! now you've gone and posted a map of las pocitas! now everyone is gonna want to go there and
it-will-be-lost-forever! 
only on baja nomads.......
|
|
|
Barry A.
Select Nomad
Posts: 10007
Registered: 11-30-2003
Location: Redding, Northern CA
Member Is Offline
Mood: optimistic
|
|
Hmmmmm, lets see if I have this right-------------helping people to see and enjoy all that Baja CA has to offer is somehow a "need to
shine"----------?????????
Righttttttttttt!!! 
Sorry, that does not logically track with me.
Barry
|
|
|
David K
Honored Nomad
Posts: 64837
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Offline
Mood: Have Baja Fever
|
|
I wonder why some here think that those who are reading Baja Nomad are bad people who would do any harm to Baja's treasures?
I believe and have only met Nomads who are in love with Baja and want to enjoy, share and thus preserve the sites so more people can enjoy, learn,
discover more.
Unseen, unappreciated, unvisited, 'unvalued' does no good and will lead to them being lost... The link in MMc reply above is to a thread I started in
2009 on some of the sites you can drive to, or very close to... I hope (and I know) it inspires MORE NOMADS and BAJA LOVING people to visit them
BEFORE some idiot from the city (who never reads this site) spray paints over it. Nature will also erase sites... a landslide covered a site near El
Marmol and a flash flood did in one on the road to San Javier from Loreto. Thank Goodness some of us have photographed them and shared the photos for
everyone to enjoy, learn, appreciate, get inspired, want to go to Baja, etc.!
[Edited on 10-11-2013 by David K]
|
|
|
paranewbi
Senior Nomad
Posts: 913
Registered: 4-15-2011
Location: San diego
Member Is Offline
|
|
I use to have a heart for Arturo and Rob as my family made it a yearly trek to their El Castillo site (and the private shack behind it) to secure the
entire upper area beyond the 'store'. We would bring 3 generations of our family there for a weekend usually numbering around 20+ respectful members.
Often leaving the camp area better than we found it...including cleaning the algae growth out of the small 'pool'.
Last time we reserved the area for a weekend, and 3 days prior to our scheduled arrival, Rob sent me a text notifying me that they had decided to give
it to 'family members' who wanted to use it for that weekend! I protested and he offered another area that had a 2 person hot tub but plenty of dirt
area for our use!
I said no thanks and that if this is how they did business...then good riddance.
For my family it was disturbing that all we had planned for months and arraigned with getting us down there, i.e. time off work, securing care for
pets at home, logistics of food, camping gear (ok I'm sure you get the idea if you've ever camped with 20+ family members).
We would never feel secure in doing this again with Arturo and Rob and a family tradition came to an end. For me...If this happened to us, I would
tend to think it has happened to others before and maybe after. No sympathy here for anyone at that canyon...they deserve each other and maybe earned
the karma.
Oh yes...thankfully we have 'pictures' to preserve our family memories as I guess as I was "inspired to preserve them" before some idiots ruined it
for their own selfish desires.
|
|
|
DianaT
Select Nomad
Posts: 10020
Registered: 12-17-2004
Member Is Offline
|
|
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
I believe and have only met Nomads who are in love with Baja and want to enjoy, share and thus preserve the sites so more people can enjoy, learn,
discover more.
|
Yes indeed. What is it now, 8000+ listed members and who knows how many lurkers? But all the information is safe with Nomads.
[Edited on 10-11-2013 by DianaT]
|
|
|
David K
Honored Nomad
Posts: 64837
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Offline
Mood: Have Baja Fever
|
|
paranewbi: I don't blame you a bit... it is the site and the people who designed and built the tubs/ camps there at Arturo's that made it special and
not the management. To shut off the water and force an old man and his cancer-sick wife out was pretty low, and that is my beef with Ernesto. We
rarely saw Arturo more than a greeting and our camp (La Jolla B) was always pretty clean when we arrived. I know others have arrived and found trash
(pretty sad when there were plenty of trash cans around).
Diana T: I believe people are mostly good and we don't punish everyone for the exception. Again, what value is a man made form of art (pertos &
pictos) if nobody sees them? Let's all (who wants to) see them in person or in photos before they are gone forever.
|
|
|
David K
Honored Nomad
Posts: 64837
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Offline
Mood: Have Baja Fever
|
|
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by BAJACAT
David,did you see Ernestos website, shows that he has 5 of Arturos camps for rent,El Castillo, El Dorado,El Sol,El Mirador and my favorite San
Marcos,but they are not cheap.. |
Give me a link please... edit: found the site, and I see they have Arturo's map but call it Don Jose's Campo 1 now? Also, in the reservation
list are only a couple of Campo 1 sites listed... ?) http://guadalupecanyonoasis.com/
Maybe Arturo died or just moved to Mexicali to live out his remaining years in poverty? I am not real anxious to support any family member of his that
would do such a thing... Maybe I will email Canyonman Rob (Arturo's son-in-law) for the low down?
|
Received a reply from Rob...
Ernesto bought Arturo's Camp. Arturo is still alive and still drives his truck. Ernesto has opened up some of Arturo's camp/ tub sites, but not all.
Canyonman Rob has not been there in four years.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I believe that Ernesto now has all the camps in the canyon. I hope it can once again be the special place it was for so many years.
|
|
|
David K
Honored Nomad
Posts: 64837
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Offline
Mood: Have Baja Fever
|
|
| Quote: | Originally posted by BAJACAT
I will be going at the end of this month..Has been 7 yrs for me,I want to go back...I will stay at los Manantiales.. |
Looking forward to your report José!
|
|
|
wocketpatch
Newbie
Posts: 7
Registered: 10-18-2013
Location: PDX
Member Is Offline
|
|
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by BAJACAT
I will be going at the end of this month..Has been 7 yrs for me,I want to go back...I will stay at los Manantiales.. |
Looking forward to your report José! |
So how was it? I'll be there in about a month, hoping for decent weather..
|
|
|
Ken Cooke
Elite Nomad
Posts: 8945
Registered: 2-9-2004
Location: Riverside, CA
Member Is Offline
Mood: Pole Line Road postponed due to injury
|
|
| Quote: | Originally posted by paranewbi
I use to have a heart for Arturo and Rob as my family made it a yearly trek to their El Castillo site (and the private shack behind it) to secure the
entire upper area beyond the 'store'. We would bring 3 generations of our family there for a weekend usually numbering around 20+ respectful members.
Often leaving the camp area better than we found it...including cleaning the algae growth out of the small 'pool'.
Last time we reserved the area for a weekend, and 3 days prior to our scheduled arrival, Rob sent me a text notifying me that they had decided to give
it to 'family members' who wanted to use it for that weekend! I protested and he offered another area that had a 2 person hot tub but plenty of dirt
area for our use!
I said no thanks and that if this is how they did business...then good riddance.
For my family it was disturbing that all we had planned for months and arraigned with getting us down there, i.e. time off work, securing care for
pets at home, logistics of food, camping gear (ok I'm sure you get the idea if you've ever camped with 20+ family members).
We would never feel secure in doing this again with Arturo and Rob and a family tradition came to an end. For me...If this happened to us, I would
tend to think it has happened to others before and maybe after. No sympathy here for anyone at that canyon...they deserve each other and maybe earned
the karma.
Oh yes...thankfully we have 'pictures' to preserve our family memories as I guess as I was "inspired to preserve them" before some idiots ruined it
for their own selfish desires. |
24 miles further down the road is Palomar Canyon. Best part of all, the water there is $Free$.
|
|
|
David K
Honored Nomad
Posts: 64837
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Offline
Mood: Have Baja Fever
|
|
Could you bath in it?
|
|
|
Neal Johns
Super Nomad
Posts: 1687
Registered: 10-31-2002
Location: Lytle Creek, CA
Member Is Offline
Mood: In love!
|
|
DK, Not with spending a lot of time cleaning it up, it gets few visitors to keep it maintained.
Hot tip: Bring a long hose (100 feet? can't remember) to pipe the water to the nice tub over the edge of the "parking lot" at the end of the road.
Neal
My motto:
Never let a Dragon pass by without pulling its tail!
|
|
|
David K
Honored Nomad
Posts: 64837
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Offline
Mood: Have Baja Fever
|
|
Thanks Neal... I would like to hear from Ken if last month he or the other Jeepers were able to fill the tub and enjoy a bath. If not, would a 100ft.
garden or poly hose be all that is needed to siphon water to the tub from the source spring? A gallon zip-lock baggie half filled with sand can be
used as a drain stopper for the bottom of the tub if there is no valve on the drain pipe.
|
|
|
Ken Cooke
Elite Nomad
Posts: 8945
Registered: 2-9-2004
Location: Riverside, CA
Member Is Offline
Mood: Pole Line Road postponed due to injury
|
|
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Could you bath in it? |
I did a few weeks ago.
|
|
|
| Pages:
1
2 |
![[*]](images/xmbforum/default_icon.gif){kind=icon}
