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durrelllrobert
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The fishing cooperative “California de San Ignacio” in Bahia Asuncion, which was established in 1939 with only 45 members, now has 125. The processing
plant was built in 1978 and now exports 70 tons each season of red lobster and 22 tons of green abalone. They also can and export caracoles or sea
snails and produce 43 tons or 2,112 cases of 24 cans each as well as six tons of processed sea cucumber. Other products include white fish, crab,
frozen sardines and yellowtail.
www.sandiegored.com/noticias/.../The-Tail-End-of-Lobster-Sea...
Bob Durrell
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by dtbushpilot
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Baja is just so much fun and so amazing!
I have details and photos of both kinds of lobster too (from Mike's book)... if anyone is interested I will add them tomorrow or later...
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Absolutely, thanks DK.... |
Mike (McMahan) has several pages on lobsters, and so I will suggest getting the book... It was first published as a hardback then republished 10 years
later as a paperback, with a different title! Baja Judy may have the paper back? Here are two pages on lobsters, and then the two different covers for
McMahan's GREAT book>>>
1973:
1983:
Some will recall the cool early 1950's video of 4 guys driving down Baja hunting and fishing? Mike McMahan was one of those guys... Here is the 1953
book they wrote about that adventure:
Mike McMahan is also famous for his discoveries on Malarrimo Beach...
Including the more dangerous kind!:
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Pescador
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaParrothead
| Quote: | Originally posted by Pescador
Cortez lobsters do not trap or hoop and most are either netted or gigged or otherwise collected by divers. |
Pescador, why would they be more difficult to trap? Smarter set of bugs in the SOC?  |
On the Cortez side we have two types of rock lobsters. First is the Slipper lobster which is kind of an ugly creature and much different than a
spiny. Wikipedia has a good picture. Second is the spiny which has slightly different coloration than the spiny lobster found on the Pacific side.
The spiny lobsters we have on the Cortez side just do not come in the traps. Some speculate that they eat different things and perhaps do not feed
on the carrion or dead fish on the ocean floor. It is common knowledge that the spinys on the Pacific side are trapped and that is the main method of
harvest. We have had fishermen from the other side come over, set traps in known areas, but they don't get any. One of the stories floating around
at Punta Chivato was that the spinies on the Cortez side are vegetarian. I don't believe that but something is different.
Almost all of the lobster sold on the Cortez side comes from nets that are set for other fish and they happen to get them or from divers. Most
divers report they prefer to go at night. They either use a Hawaiin sling or a small spear gun with a single rubber.
Like everything else that has any monetary value, lobsters are in steep decline and the vendors keep getting smaller lobsters all the time.
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yakyak2010
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thxs
Hey, thxs everyone. Great info. I thought I might get one reply "too warm idiot" instead you guys gave great info on a variety of topics. Thxs again
I\'ve been told I\'m preoccupied with Baja. They just don\"t understand, in fact neither do I.
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55steve
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pescador
| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaParrothead
| Quote: | Originally posted by Pescador
Cortez lobsters do not trap or hoop and most are either netted or gigged or otherwise collected by divers. |
Pescador, why would they be more difficult to trap? Smarter set of bugs in the SOC? |
On the Cortez side we have two types of rock lobsters. First is the Slipper lobster which is kind of an ugly creature and much different than a
spiny. Wikipedia has a good picture. Second is the spiny which has slightly different coloration than the spiny lobster found on the Pacific side.
The spiny lobsters we have on the Cortez side just do not come in the traps. Some speculate that they eat different things and perhaps do not feed
on the carrion or dead fish on the ocean floor. It is common knowledge that the spinys on the Pacific side are trapped and that is the main method of
harvest. We have had fishermen from the other side come over, set traps in known areas, but they don't get any. One of the stories floating around
at Punta Chivato was that the spinies on the Cortez side are vegetarian. I don't believe that but something is different.
Almost all of the lobster sold on the Cortez side comes from nets that are set for other fish and they happen to get them or from divers. Most
divers report they prefer to go at night. They either use a Hawaiin sling or a small spear gun with a single rubber.
Like everything else that has any monetary value, lobsters are in steep decline and the vendors keep getting smaller lobsters all the time.
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Here's a pic of a few recent Bahia de Los Angeles bugs that a friend sent me.
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willardguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by yakyak2010
Any lobster in Gonzaga bay area |
I would have to say the answer is "yes". mike mcmahan's map jives with
coco's story, putting lobster as far north as ensenada blanca. we know there's lobster in LA bay. we have eye witness to seeing bugs in gonzaga. water
too warm? lobster are regularly taken waaay up at rocky point.
im certain if you were to soak hoops long enough around the gonzaga area you see some bugs, of course that brings up an even bigger problem!  
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