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durrelllrobert
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| Quote: | Originally posted by elgatoloco
Nice.
Why do they call it Arroyo Grande?  |
Book cover from David K's earlier post:
Bob Durrell
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David K
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A book of Baja Place Names would be interesting! Why do they call it Arroyo Matomí, for example... what is a Matomí?
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My Spanish skills are very rudimentary, but I also get curious as to how places get their names.
Some names describe the characteristics of the place (e.g. Arroyo Grande= big stream)....while others are named after a person.... (maybe Matomi is a
person's name???).
Interesting stuff 
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where is THIS arroyo grande shown in Elvis8's photo? can you provide a google map link? i know of one on east side of sierra, dont know of one on
west side, this appears to be west side?
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30°19'30.48"N 115° 1'29.88"W
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@ Goat, look at El Rosario on Google map and follow the main arroyo going East, not far after "The castle" you will notice how the arroyo begins to
turn on a NE direction and the satellite imagery will tell you how big it is, also on the same general area you will see only one dirt road going on a
N to NE direction, follow it and you will see the big corral right where the road ends.
Arroyo: 30.1792,-115.550
Corral: 30.275,-115.540
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moto---find El Sauce de Carter in Central Baja and follow the arroyo upstream---that's Arroyo Grande...or if that doesn't work start at El Rosario and
follow the river upstream---same drainage!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
I spent a lot of time in the boonies as a Ranger and I have always been intensely interested in CATS------I have never seen a Puma in the wilds other
than for brief mili-seconds sighting of one crossing the road, but lots of evidence. I have seen very briefly 2 bobcats in all that time, both
crossing a road at night. Saw one Lynx in Glacier Natl. Park in the housing area at night snooping around. Cats see you, but you seldom see them.
Keep an eye on your back-side and you will be fine.
Love the pics. There is a similar but smaller stone corral in excellent condition many miles south of El Barril (San Francisquito area) in the bottom
of the upper reaches of La Fortuna/San Maguel arroyo near El Venado along the old road into Rancho San Miguel and on to Los Corrales on the SOC.
Barry |
I see bobcats all the time when I'm working around the UCI area---they've moved in from the San Joaquin Hills and become suburbanized:
[Edited on 10-23-2013 by Mexitron]
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Some pics of the area south-east of that arroyo leading out of El Rosario (red dirt area seen on Google Earth/Mapssouth side of arroyo where road
leads easterly)....very good variety of flora...
Heading east up ridge and out of arroyo (red dirt area):
BIG asparagus here: 
[img]  [/img]
Great Cirios:
A pass heading north:
Looking south from pass:
South of the pass:
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Motoged,
The flora is pic #2 is stunning.
The road in the last photo looks recently graded. Who do you think it graded it?
Ken
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ARROYO SECO
I hang out at the best kept secret in the usa...Hawaii wished it had waterfalls and pools like this...about 30 miles east of big sur ca.. and has the
most cats of anywhere in the USA..Its called arroyo seco in the los padres nat. forest...but if you google (any browser) all you will find is the los
padres near santa barba ca...camping on a clear,clean river with turtles,frogs,crawdads,fresh water eel's and condors that are not on a
list....btw..First time in my life that I have put this in print.....The only book in print about this secret JEWEL is called "arroyo seco" "calif.
centrails coast grand canyon"...and to top it off...the camp ground that you can drive to has host/managers that hang in LA PAZ for the winters...Go
figure...don't beat yourself trying to find it on the internet....Nobody that knows,,,,,,would ever put it on the web...../. K&T for nomads only
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Sony Espinoza (one of Mama's boys who looks identical to his dad) made a lot of the roads out there around San Juan de Dios 10+ years ago.
Everyone here on Nomad should really get a Baja Almanac... but, as long as I am around, I will help as much as possible!
El Sauce de Carter is on the left side of this map, and it is on Arroyo Grande... the solid lines are roads I added in, that are not on the map. Note
San Juan de Dios and El Metate. See a road going north between them to Arroyo Grande. That is the access road used by Dr. Bob Vinton in his 1990
article...
Older Almanac, see Arroyo Grande just above the shaft of the arrow pointing out San Juan de Dios:
[Edited on 10-24-2013 by David K]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
Some pics of the area south-east of that arroyo leading out of El Rosario
BIG asparagus here:
[img] [/img]
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Bob Durrell
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I am totally jealous of those of you seeing multi-cats in the wild!!!!
Not being a hunter, I probably don't know how to look for them. 
I love everybodies input into this.
Barry
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
Motoged,
The flora in pic #2 is stunning.
The road in the last photo looks recently graded. Who do you think it graded it?
Ken |
Ken,
I do not think a grader had been up there recently....my thought was that recent rainfall had created a "sweeping flow" on that section of road that
was not quite strong enough to create washouts. The berms/curbs on either side display some grading, but that section of road was unique....the roads
before and after were the usual rough stuff:
At the pass:
Before the pass....south side:
Other parts:
North side of pass:
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
I am totally jealous of those of you seeing multi-cats in the wild!!!!
Not being a hunter, I probably don't know how to look for them.
I love everybodies input into this.
Barry |
Barry,
My cat sightings were all by chance while riding dirtbikes in BC....first was a cat lounging comfortably beside a large Ponderosa Pine deadfall:
it was just looking at my buddy and me as we pulled up to a stop to converse....it watched us (about 100' away) for about 2-3 minutes before it stood
up and sauntered away down the hill. No drama....I guess we interrupted a snooze or a hunt
Second and third were cats bounding across a logging road from one side to the other in one jump.....it was a two lane gravel road and each time the
cat bounded from the bush on one side, one landing in middle of road, and it disappeared into bush on other side.
These cats seem to be able to jump 10-15 feet with no problem when running....or from a dead stop.
I am a cat lover, so seeing big ones in the wild is a special experience.
I stopped hunting in 1978 after murdering my second deer (a kill from a distance is "hunting"....shooting it in the head from 4' away was like murder.
Just don't need to kill to eat....would if I needed to).
Please folks, let's not turn this geography/cat story into a debate on hunting ethics.... let's keep it "on the road" 
P.S. I have seen Baja bobcats three times....Shari has cats that are crossbreeds and offered kittens some months ago....SO tempting
[Edited on 10-24-2013 by motoged]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
| Quote: | Originally posted by elgatoloco
Nice.
Why do they call it Arroyo Grande? |
I don't know! |
I think its because its a Grande Arroyo. 
I was just kidding. Really. Thanks for sharing the pics.
Makes me want to head out that way. Maybe this fall.
I have seen a big healthy bobcat at Bajamar whilst golfing. Saw Lion in Botswana and Cheetah in Zimbabwe. Cheetah caught a very large Spring hare
right in front of us. That was something to see. All the time that I have spent in the wilderness of So Cal never seen a mountain lion, darnit.
MAGA
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
I am totally jealous of those of you seeing multi-cats in the wild!!!!
Barry |
Barry,
There is a zoo out there.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AihvuZiDhsg
Cats at the end....
[Edited on 10-24-2013 by motoged]
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VERY SHORT VIDEO COMING BACK FROM LAS CRUCES BAJA CALIFORNIA
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