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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chuckie
What are the symptoms??? I have had an all over itch and eye infections for several weeks..Think its shingles but dunno... |
If you have "shingles" I think you will know-----------it is so painful you will consider dying!!! Had it once-------now have the vaccination, and
presume I will never have it again ( I dearly hope, anyway).
Barry
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vandenberg
| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
Those are just the reported cases. I think most people (like me) don't bother to go to the doctor when they get it. There's really not much you can do
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So, how did you know it was dengue and not just a flue virus? Self diagnose??.. and a case of Pacifico to stay hydrated??
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Because several people I know with the same symptoms were diagnosed with it. It's really
pretty obvious when you have splitting head aches, painful joints, and a reoccurring high fever during the time when a lot of people are suffering
from dengue. Anyone that you talk to here knows several people who have had it recently.
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BFS
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I have not had a headache but do hear that is a common symptom.
Mine have been a severe fever that comes and goes throughout the day but is really bad at night. Massive joint, bone, body pains and aches which are
also way worse at night. No apetite, sweating, chills and the absolute killer being the inability to sleep. I actually dread the arrival of nightfall.
Maybe tonight will be different.
[Edited on 11-18-2013 by BFS]
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wow, thats brutal, gotta be careful with the deets as well, had a friend of mine on a camping trip ingest some of this by accident ( spray application
) whole head blew up, eyes swelled and turned red. thought i was going to have to carry him down the hill, a day later he was ok, but very scarry.
there are a lot of envoirnmental groups getting started up in mexico right now, hopefully they focus on these issues
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I want to be clear here. Though you can not get sick from the same strain do not get a sense of security... For those who have and or just had
these symptoms. You have just had one strain. This is not to panic anyone just to let you get informed. again it is still less than 1%
fatality with a second infection and generally only fatal for compromised immune systems or very young or old..
If there is a second strain of dengue going around (which I can not tell if it is, you can if you get the actual mortality rates right now you can
extrapolate it) and you get a second illness this is where the death rate is much higher, I can not remember the exact number buy it is either 10 or
100 times higher.
I implore you to wear pants and socks (if you just had it)at all times from this point out. plus do not go anywhere without deet. have deet in
your car and home. Just play it extra cautious. Even buy a net for your bed, but in general unless some near is ill your home is safe, these
mosquitoes have a normal range of 100 meters. and lifespan of 30 days.. Again you have lost your basic as I call it freeby for I think it is 5- 7
years. after 5-7 years you are back to statistically the same.
Feel free to contact me and I can dig up the documentation that I had years ago. I went through this about 8 years or so ago.
here is one quick find showing the 4 types. I have much more info.
http://www.cdc.gov/dengue/fAQFacts/index.html
Q. What is dengue?
A. Dengue (pronounced den' gee) is a disease caused by any one of four closely related dengue viruses (DENV 1, DENV 2, DENV 3, or DENV 4). The viruses
are transmitted to humans by the bite of an infected mosquito. In the Western Hemisphere, the Aedes aegypti mosquito is the most important transmitter
or vector of dengue viruses, although a 2001 outbreak in Hawaii was transmitted by Aedes albopictus. It is estimated that there are over 100 million
cases of dengue worldwide each year.
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monoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BFS
I have not had a headache but do hear that is a common symptom.
Mine have been a severe fever that comes and goes throughout the day but is really bad at night. Massive joint, bone, body pains and aches which are
also way worse at night. No apetite, sweating, chills and the absolute killer being the inability to sleep. I actually dread the arrival of nightfall.
Maybe tonight will be different.
[Edited on 11-18-2013 by BFS] |
Exactly, I would feel OK in the morning and get progressively weaker all day,
then I would get this splitting headache right behind my left eye, and my joints felt like I'd been put on the rack, at night I'd wake up with the
sheets completely soaked. I lost 10-15 lbs., no appetite for 2 weeks, the only common symptom that I didn't have is the rash that is often associated.
I know exactly where I got it, I stopped to visit a friend who lives near downtown Todos Santos, who was just getting over it, when I got home I had
mosquito bites all over my ankles, a few days later I became sick. There has been a dengue epidemic all over Mexico and Central America this year.
[Edited on 11-18-2013 by monoloco]
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laventana
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web md is a good one, remember not to take asprin.
http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/dengue-fever-reference
and here is the best read and read the comments about the getting more than one strains. this one was posted on my website.
http://yucalandia.com/science-health-issues/dengue-what-to-d...
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monoloco
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Ibuprofen helped with the pain. I
assume that aspirin could cause increased bleeding if one had the hemorragic form of the disease.
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Does anyone know if there have been any cases of dengue fever in or near Santa Rosalia?
Thanks
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BajaB
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dengue fever santa rosalia
Does anyone know if there have been any cases of dengue fever in or near Santa Rosalia?
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Mulegena
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I've heard of no diagnosed Dengue in Mulege or Sta. Rosalia, BajaB.
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Here's another useful site
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&a...
Bob Durrell
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After hearing monoloco's and BFS' current status and the link to Yucalandia with other personal accounts, I will take this much more seriously. Gotta
go to La Paz and SJC soon and we will use spray. Hope you're feeling better soon guys.
We were in Loreto overnight 3 weeks ago and got a few bites at the Coco Cabañas part of town. On the way home stopped by the nursery at Nopolo/Loreto
Bay around 10:00am and I have never encountered so many mosquitoes - not Nicaragua, CR, Guatemala,Puerto Rico, and even San Blas was mild in
comparison. Arms and legs were covered in black as well as our faces. Worst I've ever seen. Don't know if it was just the tree shaded nursery area and
from watering the plants or the entire Loreto Bay area. I mean really,really bad and I came home with lots of bites.
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laventana
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any reports of cerritos beach area, is it only in Todos so far?
A friend was camping out there this weekend and was eaten by mosquitoes. I have discussed with him we do not know when he can be infectious if he
did have an infected mosquito bite him.
As a proactive measure he has agreed to only go out with deet on and or socks and long pants for the next 10 days as a protective strategy for our
area..
this is the perfect example of how valuable the internet and forums can be if he does come down with it he will not be passing it on because we had a
early warning.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by oladulce
We were in Loreto overnight 3 weeks ago and got a few bites at the Coco Cabañas part of town. On the way home stopped by the nursery at Nopolo/Loreto
Bay around 10:00am and I have never encountered so many mosquitoes Don't know if it was just the tree shaded nursery area and from watering the
plants or the entire Loreto Bay area. I mean really,really bad and I came home with lots of bites. |
Same time frame, about three weeks ago:
We were just passing by the south entrance to the Loreto Bay area and were stopped by the road construction. Turned off the engine, put the windows
down, and were instantly INUNDATED with mosquitoes. Had to put the windows back up, run the engine, and sit there with the A/C on, while waiting our
turn to continue on southbound.
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Yes, I know of one confirmed case in Cerritos. It was a doozy as the person almost needed a blood transfusion.
And Monoloco is in Pescadero so you can assume that this entire area is holding.
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Info from another site.
I hope this information may help..I am recovering from Dengue fever in Lo de Marcos. If you get any flu-like symptoms with a fever, go see your doctor
and ask for the blood test to check for dengue BEFORE you self medicate. never take aspirin to bring down the fever until you have a diagnosis.
Aspirin thins the blood and if you are unlucky enough to get the heamorrhagic dengue where there could be internal bleeding, it may be a matter of
life or death. My doctor told me that most of the deaths that occur are because the patient thought it was "just the flu, didn't go to the doctor and
by the time they did, it was too late. Not meaning to be gloom and doom but this is a life-threatening disease.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by comitan
Info from another site.
I hope this information may help..I am recovering from Dengue fever in Lo de Marcos. If you get any flu-like symptoms with a fever, go see your doctor
and ask for the blood test to check for dengue BEFORE you self medicate. never take aspirin to bring down the fever until you have a diagnosis.
Aspirin thins the blood and if you are unlucky enough to get the heamorrhagic dengue where there could be internal bleeding, it may be a matter of
life or death. My doctor told me that most of the deaths that occur are because the patient thought it was "just the flu, didn't go to the doctor and
by the time they did, it was too late. Not meaning to be gloom and doom but this is a life-threatening disease. |
That's probably the best advice there is right there.
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laventana
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a second more recent article by Dr. Fry at yucalandia, the other is much more detailed he is just adding a few things ....
this one includes sightly more info about what I mentioned regarding getting second strains.
http://yucalandia.com/science-health-issues/dengue-what-to-d...
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except a few items:
Scientists used to think it took 10 days or more between being bitten by a Dengue infected mosquito and the onset of fever & symptoms, but there
have been recent reports of as short as a 4 day incubation period between the insect bite and the Dengue infection…
A single dengue infection sets the patient up for future more intense dengue infections, with the symptoms getting worse with every subsequent
infection, with the possibility of death increasing dramatically with every new infection.
Each dengue infection confers a very brief immunity (3-4 months) to ONLY that strain of Dengue, but that single infection leaves the patient even more
susceptible to more serious symptoms from the other 3 remaining Dengue strains (serotypes).
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The type of mosquito responsible for dengue is active during the daytime and not at night. When it swept through Las Peñas, Michoacan, everyone got
it, including me. A lot of folks commented on the itchy rash that appeared on the chest and abdomen. Fever, and joint pain comparable to the worst
case of flu added onto a magnitude 10 mescal hangover.
I like to use a more natural repellent mostly. Like PENNYROYAL oil added to 100% DEET. The pennyroyal keeps the critters further away from my ears so
I don't hear them. One single drop of pennyroyal oil applied to all exposed skin surfaces works like a charm. When I see mosquitoes hovering, I'll add
a thin application of 100% DEET.
Dengue mosquitoes like other mosquitoes are territorial. Only a stiff prolonged breeze will move them any distance from the birth place. Clean up an
acre around your place and you'll be battling fewer mosquitoes.
Zip tie mosquito screen over septic tank vents, gray water drains, etc. Tip abandoned tires over to drain them. A spritz of chlorine bleach into
standing water in a tire ends the problem. Toilets that are not flushed and unused sink drains make breeding grounds that are scary. One sink drain
can support the hatching of several hundred mosquitoes. Flushing the sink every day with a liter flow of water ends that problem. A dash of chlorine
bleach ends it for weeks.
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