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dpwahoo
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Thank god for my Pila.
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David K
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TijuanaGirl, show what BajaNomad posted above to your landlord (I presume you can communicate with him)... it explains the scheduled outages for work
on the water delivery system... It says to collect enough water for your needs for up to 36 hours!
A pila ( "pee-lah" means storage tank or battery) and is used to store water off grid, and elevated to create some water pressure (every 10 feet of
water drop = 4.33 psi). You don't see them often in cities, but you do in the boonies where water trucks deliver water to your pila.
Welcome to Nomad, but don't run off if we are hard on you like asking what did you expect when moving to Mexico, not speaking some Spanish, or other
criticisms...
The town where Mula lives (Lopez Mateos) is hundreds of miles south of you, on Magdalena Bay in Baja California Sur. Getting the AAA Baja map is
really helpful, because locations are so much part of this forum's discussions and Baja is 1,000 road miles long with 3,000 miles of coastline and
varied from semi-arid regions, to deserts, to tropical oasis, to snowy pine mountains. What makes Baja so fascinating is the variety in one
peninsula... the magnificent peninsula of Baja California.
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dasubergeek
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Oh, I wasn't suggesting that you were in the boonies. Just that the use of pilas is really, really widespread in Mexico. The place I normally stay in
Ensenada looks out on pila after pila after pila.
Libertad is an interesting place. Years ago it was one of those places where you would just sort of "not see" the things going on. It's better now,
and it's full of people who cross the border to work (it's really close to the main crossing).
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fdt
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TijuanaGirl, on the first post from BajaNomad Doug on this thread it shows what areas / subdivisions / Colonias are affected by the scheduled
maintenance and necesary repairs. Look to see if your area is on that list. If it is then you can expect the outage to last anywere between 6 to 36
hours and that also depends on usage and capacity of the main storage tanks located at different parts of the affected areas. I don't know were you
live in Tijuana but even though all of the city is very heavily populated, not all of it is the heartland.
From west to east, Playas is Playas, from El Mirador and Soler all the way to the racetrack would be the "heartland, from there on, La Mesa is La
Mesa, anywere past La Mesa is anyones guess, It is usualy refered to in spanish as El Este de la Ciudad, I would call it the boonies. From North to
south, from the airport to an imaginary line that would go from Hipodromo, Chapultepec, Gabilondo, Cacho, Juarez, Morelos, Independencia, Mexico,
Guerrero, Hidalgo and so on would be the heartland. Anything else goes by the area name. For example the area of look alike houses past La Gloria is
Santa Fe, and that is part of the boonies.
As for water shortages here in our colonia, Juarez, maybe once every 2 to 3 years, exept if there is a water main break, that is usualy fixed within 1
day.
Saludos,
Fernando
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fdt
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
A pila ( "pee-lah" means storage tank or battery) and is used to store water off grid, and elevated to create some water pressure (every 10 feet of
water drop = 4.33 psi). You don't see them often in cities, but you do in the boonies where water trucks deliver water to your pila.
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Actualy a pila is usualy underground or at ground level and a pump is used in order for the water to be delivered thru the pipes. What you are
describing is more of a "Tinaco" and those are elevated, most of BCS uses tinacos.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fdt
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
A pila ( "pee-lah" means storage tank or battery) and is used to store water off grid, and elevated to create some water pressure (every 10 feet of
water drop = 4.33 psi). You don't see them often in cities, but you do in the boonies where water trucks deliver water to your pila.
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Actualy a pila is usualy underground or at ground level and a pump is used in order for the water to be delivered thru the pipes. What you are
describing is more of a "Tinaco" and those are elevated, most of BCS uses tinacos. |
Thank you Ferna, I was just trying to describe what dpwahoo was talking about... and perhaps because they are gringos, but I have only heard the
people with homes off grid and elevated tanks refer to them as 'pilas'. I appreciate you providing the correct word for an elevated water tank at ones
home being a 'Tanaco'! 
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tjsue
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I've been told that Colonia Libertad isn't a very good neighborhood to live in.
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fdt
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tjsue
I've been told that Colonia Libertad isn't a very good neighborhood to live in. |
Back in the 50's and 60's it was known for the pachucos that lived there. But not everyone was a pachuco. My grandmothers home was on calle 5ta and
Serdan in Libertad and that is were my dad and uncles grew up but it has changed a lot.
It does seem like TijuanaGirl is open to the idea of moving to a better area although she hasn't mentioned were she lives. I wpuld gladly show her the
better options if she would like.
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fdt
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Tinaco, with an i not an a
https://www.google.com.mx/search?q=tinaco&source=lnms&am...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fdt
| Quote: | Originally posted by tjsue
I've been told that Colonia Libertad isn't a very good neighborhood to live in. |
...I wpuld gladly show her the better options if she would like. |
You should take FDT up on his offer. Just my dos centavos on this.
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TijuanaGirl
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
TijuanaGirl, show what BajaNomad posted above to your landlord (I presume you can communicate with him)... it explains the scheduled outages for work
on the water delivery system... It says to collect enough water for your needs for up to 36 hours!
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I was hoping the water companies schedule would include dates of an expected outage that are scheduled to take place over the course of the next two
or three weeks. But it appears to focus only on today and tomorrow, I think.
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TijuanaGirl
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fdt
| Quote: | Originally posted by tjsue
I've been told that Colonia Libertad isn't a very good neighborhood to live in. |
It does seem like TijuanaGirl is open to the idea of moving to a better area although she hasn't mentioned were she lives. I wpuld gladly show her the
better options if she would like. |
I don't know if Colonia Libertad is an all around better neighborhood than where I am currently located. But it does appear to have less water
outages.
Funny, I don't think I've ever been to Libertad, but there's a small chance I've been through Libertad (or have seen it) in going from point A to
point B.
I think it's safe to assume that the regulars here know that the personality and complexion of a neighborhood can change in drastic fashion from one
street to the next.
I'll have to take into account that tjsue did say that Libertad is not a very good neighborhood to live in
P.S. I'd like to thank everyone in this thread who provided helpful information
[Edited on 1-9-2014 by TijuanaGirl]
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fdt
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| Quote: | Originally posted by TijuanaGirl
I was hoping the water companies schedule would include dates of an expected outage that are scheduled to take place over the course of the next two
or three weeks. But it appears to focus only on today and tomorrow, I think. |
They advise everybody well in advance and they use all means of communication, they announce it on the radio, tv, all newspapers and here all over the
social media.
As for your particular case having so many outages, I have heard that from other Tijuana residents and, sorry, but it is because of the area you live
in. I don't know why but it happens lot twards the east side of town. As I wrote before, you have not disclosed what area you live in, you just
mentioned the heartland, so I cant really say more.
Saludos
Fernando
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fdt
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| Quote: | Originally posted by TijuanaGirl
| Quote: | Originally posted by fdt
| Quote: | Originally posted by tjsue
I've been told that Colonia Libertad isn't a very good neighborhood to live in. |
It does seem like TijuanaGirl is open to the idea of moving to a better area although she hasn't mentioned were she lives. I wpuld gladly show her the
better options if she would like. |
I don't know if Colonia Libertad is an all around better neighborhood than where I am currently located. But it does appear to have less water
outages.
Funny, I don't think I've ever been to Libertad, but there's a small chance I've been through Libertad (or have seen it) in going from point A to
point B.
I think it's safe to assume that the regulars here know that the personality and complexion of a neighborhood can change in drastic fashion from one
street to the next.
I'll have to take into account that tjsue did say that Libertad is not a very good neighborhood to live in
P.S. I'd like to thank everyone in this thread who provided helpful information
[Edited on 1-9-2014 by TijuanaGirl] |
I agree about what tjsue said about Colonia Libertad and as I wrote before, it has changed a lot and even though my dad was raised there, the main
reason I remember him mentioning as to why he decided on the area we presently live in, Colonia Juarez was precisely because he didn't want his
children growing up in Colonia Libertad.
One question; Do you think someone would be able to pinpoint your location just by you mentioning a general area as to were you live? I ask this
because I don't see how anyone can help somebody who is asking questions regarding to were they live if the only descriptions you've given us is "the
heartland" and "from point A to point B". Just sayin'
saludos,
Fernando
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tjsue
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When I decided to move to Tijuana, I started researching out neighborhoods, and asked questions on the Tijuana blog. Most everyone on the blog lives
in Tijuana, so they can answer questions about most anything, and that's where I was told that Libertad not being a good place to live.
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fdt
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I would probably agree with them. I would definetly not show that area to anyone looking to live in Tijuana.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
... the correct word for an elevated water tank at ones home being a 'Tanaco'! |
"Tanaco?" 
Your maps are great. Your spelling lessons often discredit you. 
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Baja place names is what I provide help with, all other words I have no expertise in! Thank you.
Pila is the word I have heard for any and all home water storage tanks (above or below ground), so TINACO was totally NEW to me... and yes, when I
repeated back to Ferna, I did spell it wrong. I was NOT trying to tell him or anybody the correct way to spell Tinaco. I APPRECIATE the correct
information/ spelling and welcome it. Thank you Ferna!
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dasubergeek
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaNomad
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RESTORATION OF SERVICE
We inform you that the work on the Florido-Otay aqueduct have completed successfully and the neighborhoods still waiting to have water service
restored as of yesterday should regain it overnight tonight.
We invite those people who already have this vital liquid to use it rationally in order to allow the storage tanks to reach their optimum operational
level.
[Edited on 1-9-2014 by dasubergeek]
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bajalearner
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| Quote: | | I know Agua Caliente is supposed to be a nice area to live. How about Colonia Libertad, is it as nice (or near as nice) as Agua Caliente?
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No. Libertad is a normal, middleclass area with a bad reputation but is a good area now. It is along the border fence at San Ysidro. It is amoung
the oldest neighborhoods of Tijuana being adjacent to the Palacio Municipal and the border crossing. During the 60's, when many families had young
teenagers, Libertad cultured gangs and punks. These days those punks have long moved on and many normal people reside. It is a great colonia if a
person crosses the border routinely. Libertad does not have any good restaurants or clubs or much of anything else worth talking about.
A great asset to Libertad is that it rises from the rio, up a steep hill which allows a great view of the city. Of course, most of the construction
did not build to include the vista due to the extra cost of construction such as large windows or balconies. There are some casa's that make use of
the view. I got the idea that Libertad was a "cheap" development compared to Cacha and Mira Vista on the west side of Centro. Those areas reflect
more money and nicer buildings and both are along the hills with buena vistas. I predict many nice homes with eventually transform Libertad as people
build to take advantage of the location and views.
[Edited on 1-9-2014 by bajalearner]
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