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KurtG
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| Quote: | Originally posted by divemulege
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Have to be honest in that I came very close to buying down there a few years ago. But the floods made me change my mind.
Mulege is a wonderful place. I would love to know more details about the dam project. If they can fix the flooding problem, I'll be in.
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FYI, we did not get flooding before because the river was not full of crap. Take away volume and the water has to go somewhere. Now they are making
a very deep river bed and building dams to stop the water flow. The mine put in the majority of the money so the government started doing the work to
complete. But I guess the negative people on this forum will always be grumpy and have nothing but negative things to say.
I will post a video in a few minutes of the work going on right now. They are building a 11km long river bed 300 meters wide and supposedly 30 meters
deep. They have 7 earth movers and now 5 D9 doing the work. They have also widen the roads going into the mountains so they can bring heavy
equipment up to build 3 damns. They already have built one. |
Good Lord! Have you computed how many cubic meters of dirt is involved in a channel 300 meters wide and 90 meters deep and 11km long? For non-metric
types that is nearly 1000 feet wide, 100 feet deep and 7 miles long. Just on the face of it I find this unbelievable. We're talking Panama Canal
excavation here. Hard to take seriously.
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divemulege
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Yeah, It is a lot. Do not expect them to finish this year. I imagine it is a couple year project. They are making ground but they have only been
working on about 4 km so far. I went today and they had done about twice as much as they had done two weeks ago. Mexico is not as incompetent as you
think though when it comes to dams and rivers these days. Not sure about the roads though. LOL
| Quote: | Originally posted by KurtG
| Quote: | Originally posted by divemulege
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Have to be honest in that I came very close to buying down there a few years ago. But the floods made me change my mind.
Mulege is a wonderful place. I would love to know more details about the dam project. If they can fix the flooding problem, I'll be in.
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FYI, we did not get flooding before because the river was not full of crap. Take away volume and the water has to go somewhere. Now they are making
a very deep river bed and building dams to stop the water flow. The mine put in the majority of the money so the government started doing the work to
complete. But I guess the negative people on this forum will always be grumpy and have nothing but negative things to say.
I will post a video in a few minutes of the work going on right now. They are building a 11km long river bed 300 meters wide and supposedly 30 meters
deep. They have 7 earth movers and now 5 D9 doing the work. They have also widen the roads going into the mountains so they can bring heavy
equipment up to build 3 damns. They already have built one. |
Good Lord! Have you computed how many cubic meters of dirt is involved in a channel 300 meters wide and 90 meters deep and 11km long? For non-metric
types that is nearly 1000 feet wide, 100 feet deep and 7 miles long. Just on the face of it I find this unbelievable. We're talking Panama Canal
excavation here. Hard to take seriously. |
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divemulege
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I also heard it was going to be 100 m wide by 10 m. I was told by someone else the other dimensions. I am going to go by on Wednesday and ask them
first hand so I can get the correct information. 300m by 30m sounds pretty extreme to me.
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cocoscabana
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Divemulege...can you start a new thread on this???
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KurtG
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| Quote: | Originally posted by divemulege
I also heard it was going to be 100 m wide by 10 m. I was told by someone else the other dimensions. I am going to go by on Wednesday and ask them
first hand so I can get the correct information. 300m by 30m sounds pretty extreme to me. |
Your earlier post says I think Mexico incompetent in this type of engineering which is something I did not say. Don't put words in my mouth or
attribute attitudes to me which I do not hold and did not express. I questioned the dimensions you posted which on brief examination seem impossible.
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Mulegena
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New Thread and get this back on-point
Yes, this is big news for Mulege and the peninsula and deserves its own thread.
I finally got my computer configured to enable HTML5 so I could watch your video. This is real. I'm going out to see it, too.
"Raise your words, not your voice. It's rain that grows flowers, not thunder." ~Rumi
"It's the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." ~ Aristotle
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| Quote: | Originally posted by divemulege
.... Why do you even post on post of other people? Keyboard quarterbacks are always the best online. In person, not! |
DM,
????????
I don't understand your "post on post" comment. What do you mean?
I am not a keyboard q'back....I am just not as sure as you that the engineering upstream will solve the flood problem near the town. I have seen the
flood damage way out to the west and doubt they are placing dams there....but I may be assuming something here about dam locations.
I am glad your dive business is surviving....and it really is unfortunate that your wife's pizza joint is not continuing. Her pizza was good....but I
have had better. I thought and still think that the concept is a good one.
Don't know what you are getting so peey about...but if you want to get personal, try it with someone else. Your personal attack on me is
unwarranted....it seems I hit a nerve somehow. I spend more time in Baja than you are aware of, but your time in Mexico doesn't justify your rudeness
to me in this thread.
Good luck selling your house....and hope the other one survives high water.
[Edited on 3-4-2014 by motoged]
Don't believe everything you think....
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divemulege
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Kurt,
I did not mean to offend. I too think it is a huge project to tackle but they are putting a lot of resources to it. I have always thought in the
past that Mexico construction was a joke but in the last 10 years they have brought a lot of consultants in from the States and elsewhere to teach
them how to do it right. I believe you were right on with your comment. I will update with videos twice a month to show progress on another thread.
| Quote: | Originally posted by KurtG
| Quote: | Originally posted by divemulege
I also heard it was going to be 100 m wide by 10 m. I was told by someone else the other dimensions. I am going to go by on Wednesday and ask them
first hand so I can get the correct information. 300m by 30m sounds pretty extreme to me. |
Your earlier post says I think Mexico incompetent in this type of engineering which is something I did not say. Don't put words in my mouth or
attribute attitudes to me which I do not hold and did not express. I questioned the dimensions you posted which on brief examination seem impossible.
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divemulege
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Motoged,
Any post I put up you have nothing but negative comments. You guys can go look at my post in the classifieds for restaurant equipment for sale and
see the same negative quotes. Just gets old listening to people that do not live in Mexico full time, let alone come for a week or two a year, to
constantly belittle others on a Mexico forum post like they are Mr. Mexico. Go away and do not post on my post anymore. Hell, this is a house for
sale not a forum for conversation. Funny is everyone I ask here about you they all say you are a ****.
| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
| Quote: | Originally posted by divemulege
.... Why do you even post on post of other people? Keyboard quarterbacks are always the best online. In person, not! |
DM,
????????
I don't understand your "post on post" comment. What do you mean?
I am not a keyboard q'back....I am just not as sure as you that the engineering upstream will solve the flood problem near the town. I have seen the
flood damage way out to the west and doubt they are placing dams there....but I may be assuming something here about dam locations.
I am glad your dive business is surviving....and it really is unfortunate that your wife's pizza joint is not continuing. Her pizza was good....but I
have had better. I thought and still think that the concept is a good one.
Don't know what you are getting so peey about...but if you want to get personal, try it with someone else. Your personal attack on me is
unwarranted....it seems I hit a nerve somehow. I spend more time in Baja than you are aware of, but your time in Mexico doesn't justify your rudeness
to me in this thread.
Good luck selling your house....and hope the other one survives high water.
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motoged
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| Quote: | Originally posted by divemulege
.... Funny is everyone I ask here about you they all say you are a ****.
| Quote: | | Originally posted by divemulege |
DM,
What is really funny is that no one in Mulege knows me....I have met two Mulege individuals prior to a gathering at Laura's GatoGordo in January this
year....Al (moto guy) and a woman who is a friend of a friend in BC.
While I do not have any sense of the woman's opinion of me, I believe that Al and I enjoyed each other's company with motorcycle riding being our
common interest....
The other opinions you have gleaned have come from folks who have never met me and who had previously formed an opinion about me based, most likely,
on my posts on Baja Nomads.
I am opinionated at times and am also a likeable soul in most situations (try talking with people who have actually met me....). I can live with all
that.
Your insults say more about you than me.
I guess giving my opinions about pizza and cinnamon buns has irritated you....and while it was not my intention, I will let you manage your emotional
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Don't believe everything you think....
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divemulege
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MG,
What irritates me is that you are on my post about selling my house talking about the restaurant. You are also knocking the river when you do not
even live here. I live in Mexico because I have a Mexican wife and I love Mexico. I did not move here because I could not deal with the USA, because
I was running for the law or anything else. You say that American cannot make it here in business but I do not even run the restaurant or work at it.
It is completely Mexican ran and owned. I think locals stay in business because they will accept making $2000 per month. It is not worth it to me
for my wife to work all those hours and only make $100 per day. The dive shop does extremely well during the season and it makes sense. Stop posting
on post when nobody wants to hear your input unless it is positive. Negativity gets you know where but enemies!
| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
| Quote: | Originally posted by divemulege
.... Funny is everyone I ask here about you they all say you are a ****.
| Quote: | | Originally posted by divemulege |
DM,
What is really funny is that no one in Mulege knows me....I have met two Mulege individuals prior to a gathering at Laura's GatoGordo in January this
year....Al (moto guy) and a woman who is a friend of a friend in BC.
While I do not have any sense of the woman's opinion of me, I believe that Al and I enjoyed each other's company with motorcycle riding being our
common interest....
The other opinions you have gleaned have come from folks who have never met me and who had previously formed an opinion about me based, most likely,
on my posts on Baja Nomads.
I am opinionated at times and am also a likeable soul in most situations (try talking with people who have actually met me....). I can live with all
that.
Your insults say more about you than me.
I guess giving my opinions about pizza and cinnamon buns has irritated you....and while it was not my intention, I will let you manage your emotional
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Well now !!
first the san jose marina,,then La ribera Gig and lets not forget the nautical stairway...ohh and bay of the dead,, aka "los
Sueno's....Napolo....port escondido....I love Baja and all its.charms....But Cabo was a nice place not to long ago IMO... as for a damn on the
river...hope its done right the first time...after all...We are all only humans...and we cant give up !!! PS...almost forgot,,what was that
Big,Orange tall a$$ building that stood near the bay in La Paz forever,,empty??
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When, not if, another event like John, Julio, or Jimena hits the area I wonder how well the dams will work? 100x10 meters is not much given the
amount of water that flowed during those events....and could the dams make it worse? Hold water back until they break loose....
Hope the Engineering is there.
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divemulege
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Guys, go make a post on the General forum. This is a house for sale. Not a place to BS. They should call this Baja woman because everyone bickers
like a bunch of women. No offense Mulegena. LOL
| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
When, not if, another event like John, Julio, or Jimena hits the area I wonder how well the dams will work? 100x10 meters is not much given the
amount of water that flowed during those events....and could the dams make it worse? Hold water back until they break loose....
Hope the Engineering is there. |
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If they are building dam(s), I would guess that they know they'll have to open the flood gates with subsequent flooding during Jimena type events and
the dams are being built to provide a constant water supply during normal weather conditions.
I wonder if the river through Mulege will dry up except during storms.
[Edited on 3-5-2014 by SFandH]
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divemulege
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From what they told us they will have automatic gates that will open on different levels as water peaks to let water out. It is about controlling the
water and also keeping the water for the mines. They are suppose to be diverting the flow of water to the valley where San Ynez is and that is where
they are going to put the big damn. That way the trucks do not have to come into Mulege to get water daily.
| Quote: | Originally posted by SFandH
If they are building dam(s), I would guess that they know they'll have to open the flood gates with subsequent flooding during Jimena type events and
the dams are being built to provide a constant water supply during normal weather conditions.
I wonder if the river through Mulege will dry up except during storms.
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SFandH
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So is there still going to be a river going through Mulege?
Jeez, I hope so.
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divemulege
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Yes, but it will not handle the heavy rain water.
| Quote: | Originally posted by SFandH
So is there still going to be a river going through Mulege?
Jeez, I hope so. |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by divermulege......It is about controlling the water and also keeping the water for the mines. They are suppose to be
diverting the flow of water to the valley where San Ynez is and that is where they are going to put the big damn. That way the trucks do not have to
come into Mulege to get water daily.
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Now that answers some questions I had. Appreciate the videos of the construction progress.
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rts551
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I think it was you that originated the comment about dams!
first post!
| Quote: | Originally posted by divemulege
Guys, go make a post on the General forum. This is a house for sale. Not a place to BS. They should call this Baja woman because everyone bickers
like a bunch of women. No offense Mulegena. LOL
| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
When, not if, another event like John, Julio, or Jimena hits the area I wonder how well the dams will work? 100x10 meters is not much given the
amount of water that flowed during those events....and could the dams make it worse? Hold water back until they break loose....
Hope the Engineering is there. |
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