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windgrrl
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| Quote: | Originally posted by elgatoloco
| Quote: | Originally posted by windgrrl
Link to Hansard Urbana's Cabo Cortez Project in BCS:
http://www.nrdc.org/international/files/Baja%20Investor%20Br...
This report is an interesting read from the conservation perspective that includes arguments against development, desalinization and brief summaries
of studies, including tourism data in the area. |
After reading that report I have decided not to invest.  Wonder if someone
can translate that into mandarin?
Have only been to Cabo Pulmo area once very briefly. Need to get back there for an extended visit. |
Yeah, I'm getting worried about what the future holds. We once thought about putting we down roots, but it seems like a bit of a boomlet happening
with out the mega plans again. If it wasn't so windy here we'd look for somewhere quieter.
When the way comes to an end, then change. Having changed, you pass through.
~ I-Ching
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grizzlyfsh95
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajajudy
I signed the petition to stop this project at the organic market Saturday. |
The harder I work, the luckier I get
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durrelllrobert
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| Quote: | Originally posted by elgatoloco
| Quote: | Originally posted by windgrrl
Link to Hansard Urbana's Cabo Cortez Project in BCS:
http://www.nrdc.org/international/files/Baja%20Investor%20Br...
This report is an interesting read from the conservation perspective that includes arguments against development, desalinization and brief summaries
of studies, including tourism data in the area. |
After reading that report I have decided not to invest. Wonder if someone
can translate that into mandarin?
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this is translation but BN site changes it to gibberish:
西班牙开发商Hansa厄巴纳打算建立一个换上
旅游、房地产复杂要求科尔特斯角的
尖东南部的墨西哥的下加利福尼亚半岛。
由于其
拟议的范围和规模%2C项目可能导致无法弥补
0340;伤害
,易受保护地区和濒危物种%2C以及
当地社区产生负面影响。
环境和社会的可持续性
是必要的,不仅为保护当地生态系统
和社区%2c,但也要确保长期
成功的金融一个沿海旅游项目本身。
潜在的投资者
必须充分认识到的严重关切和风险
科尔特斯角。
[Edited on 4-7-2014 by durrelllrobert]
Bob Durrell
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dtbushpilot
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| Quote: | Originally posted by grizzlyfsh95
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajajudy
I signed the petition to stop this project at the organic market Saturday. |
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X2
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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Feathers
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| Quote: | Originally posted by dtbushpilot
Not likely to happen any time soon... |
That's what they told Udo, too. 
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Osprey
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The Gov is back in town today. If I see him riding around in a gold plated Tahoe with Sansong stickers all over it, I'll alert the press.
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Gaucho
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Not that it matters, but, I hear it's a joint Chinese/American project.
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azucena
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That is correct. They have been given permission to drill wells for water, which makes no sense here on the East Cape, where water is a premium.
Ironically, it has recently been reported some wells in Ensenada are going dry,an area that receives double or more of rainfall than the East Cape.
The project is trying to tout itself as "low impact " saying they will only develop a portion of the property held, but the amount of proposed rooms
and golf courses will devastate the area, not to mention the reef. it is doubtful there will be many repeat customers however, after folks endure the
north wind howling for days on end in January, February, March... I wonder if the developers have spent much time here...
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Cancamo
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The propaganda machine is out in force handing out "Cabo Dorado Si!" bumper stickers to local folks. Must be greasing the skids for the anticipated
push-back.
Word is if the permitted wells do not provide, water will be piped in from Santiago. There is also a new airport proposed on the Santiago mesa to
service this Mega-Resort.
Many local contractors and workers were left with big money owed to them by the in-limbo Cabo Riviera project in near by La Ribera, (not to mention
the disgruntled lot buyers who have filed suit). In think the mindset is to go all in on this one.
I understand the need folks have to feed their growing families and the promise of jobs for those children down the road. What I don't understand is
why we don't look at what has happened in the past. Use CSL as an example; where great numbers of immigrants were brought in to fill construction and
service jobs, which brought many of their home grown values and problems with them. The social dynamics change forever. Then in time the folks
originally living in the area cannot afford to stay, as "Exclusive Resort Living" is very exclusive. In twenty years you have a small city to service
the needs with all the problems of a small city. Where went the peace? Cabo San Lucas has huge problems with crime, people don't leave to the beach
anymore for Semana Santa as they are afraid their house will be broken into while they are gone. A taxi driver got his throat cut two nights ago,
there are assaults daily, (read the local paper, policiana ), and murders more often than you can imagine.
Unfortunately this happens all over the world to the most pristine places, first becoming controlled by the wealthy, then quality of life diminishes
for those who can't pay.
There goes the neighborhood.....So Sad......
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DJL
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And here's the pushback -
http://cabopulmoinfo.wordpress.com/
Take a very close look at those water numbers
D.~
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captkw
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YIKES !! MUY MALO!!
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grizzlyfsh95
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Statistics are made up from whole cloth 76.4% of the time.
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DJL
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| Quote: | Originally posted by grizzlyfsh95
Statistics are made up from whole cloth 76.4% of the time. |
I don't understand the meaning of that ?
At any rate .... 22,000+ rooms , and where is the water coming from ? That'll totally wipe-out the area from Punta Arena (One of my favorite spots on
the Planet) down past El Rincon .
D.~
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grizzlyfsh95
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I don't understand the meaning of that ?
At any rate .... 22,000+ rooms , and where is the water coming from ? That'll totally wipe-out the area from Punta Arena (One of my favorite spots on
the Planet) down past El Rincon .
Ask someone over 25.
Are they going to use nuclear devices to blast for water? Exactly how are"THEY" going to "wipe-out" this area? That area is "off the grid" anyway.
Ohhh...you want it kept for people who want no other people there..I get it. Then sell more coffee and buy the place, and you can pitch your dwelling
anywhere you want and there will be nobody else around.
The harder I work, the luckier I get
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DJL
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Ya got me , I should never take the bait .
D.~
[Edited on 5-7-2014 by DJL]
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Cardon Man
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| Quote: | Originally posted by grizzlyfsh95
Are they going to use nuclear devices to blast for water? Exactly how are"THEY" going to "wipe-out" this area? That area is "off the grid" anyway.
Ohhh...you want it kept for people who want no other people there..I get it. Then sell more coffee and buy the place, and you can pitch your dwelling
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Are you kidding? Put a mega development there and the only people allowed there will be those that bought into it.
Of course we want such an amazing area kept pristine...and yes, with as few people around as possible. Isn't that why we all fell in love with Baja
in the first place? A mega resort in one of the last undeveloped places does absolutely nothing to enhance the Baja experience the vast majority of
visiting tourists are looking for.
If Mexico doesn't protect Baja's natural unspoiled places and it's sport fishery they will kill the goose that laid the golden egg. There are lots of
places in the world where you can sit by a pool in a mega resort. However, Baja "in the raw" is totally unique.
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