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So the farmacia goes Scott free?
They can continue breaking the law (selling drugs requiring Rx, without Rx)?
Only I have a problem in that the pharmacy had no part in this ordeal they put this woman through... to make a quick buck? Really 'human' of them!
If that drug requires a prescription to buy, then how the hell did she buy it? The pharmacy broke the law, and Dawn paid the price... $4,000 and 19
months of hell.
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Obviously
she should have gone to Market Street in S.D. or Anahiem St. in Long Beach.
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For all of those who would like to contribute, I just found this online: Contributions for Dawn:
"If you can't use PayPal.com and would like to send a check you can send it to:
Terrance Kennedy
2726 Shelter Island Dr #89
San Diego, Calif 92106
Checks should be made payable to "Terrance Kennedy" and have the memo: "Dawn Wilson Fund" and have the email on the check if possible."
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Quote: | Originally posted by David K
So the farmacia goes Scott free?
They can continue breaking the law (selling drugs requiring Rx, without Rx)?
Only I have a problem in that the pharmacy had no part in this ordeal they put this woman through... to make a quick buck? Really 'human' of them!
If that drug requires a prescription to buy, then how the hell did she buy it? The pharmacy broke the law, and Dawn paid the price... $4,000 and 19
months of hell. |
David,
You don?t get arrested in Mexico by buying drugs without a prescription unless the drug is a controlled substance drug, and no farmacia that i know
off croked or not would dare to sell controlled drugs without a prescription. Farmacias can?t just sell a controlled drug, they order X amount of
drugs from the pharmaceutical companies, and then they have to show a doctors signed prescription with the state seal of approval for all the drugs
sold, if they dont, the Health secretaria will inmediately jump on them, regardless if the drugs where sold to Mexicans or Americans.
Crooked farmacias sell controlled medications ilegaly by 1st sending the buyers to a doctor who is working in partnership with the farmacia, this
doctor writtes you a prescription for lets say, Valium, and charges like 50 bucks for his prescription and state seal ( only selected doctors are
authorized to sell controlled substances, regular prescriptions wont do). After this the buyer goes back to the farmacia and buys the drug, but he has
to leave the doctors prescription in the farmacia in order for them to probe to the goverment that the drugs where sold legaly.
As you can see, it makes no sense for any farmacia to sell a controlled drug without prescription, why?
1.-They need a prescription in order to show that they legally sold the drug.
2.-Its very easy and simple to get a prescription, why risk it when you dont have to.
3.-Controlled drugs are not the same as other drugs, seizure medications are not controlled.
What ever she was got with, was not just regular medication, you can be sure of that, she got a huge break at the fact that the cops got greedy and
used her credit card, if they hadnt, she would still be in jail.
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The farmacia made me do it ?
Granted the farmacia should be prosecuted and enforcement in Mexico does seem to be very selective, however; she still broke the law.
I tried the "I had no idea !" defense with the IRS a few years back and it didn't work then either...
I tried the "My accountant made me do it" defense and they laughed harder...
Love paying those middle class taxes..
Why do I always feel like I have a republican on my back ? (or an Iraqi ?)
Oh well, that is another subject for another time...
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According to the Mexican Goverment "Federal Law of Health Services" the following is the law:
"En M?xico, a excepci?n de estupefacientes y psicotr?picos, todo los medicamentos son de venta libre"
Translation:
In Mexico, with the exception of illegal drugs and mind altering drugs, all medications are freely sold.
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David K
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Jesse, and others... please forgive me as I lapse into a senior moment (at 47)... BUT, She WAS arrested for having drugs without a prescription!!! She
got those drugs at a pharmacy (without a prescription).
You just posted that was not possible... Huh? I must be missing something here!?
If the pharmacy did not break the law, then she didn't either.
Because the pharmacy DID violate the law (first), then and only then did Dawn have the drugs illegally.
Again, if no drugs are ever sold without a Rx: Dawn would not be jailed. Drugs WERE sold freely to Dawn (without a prescription), and then she got
arrested...
The country this happened in makes no difference, Mexico or the U.S... The pharmacy gave Dawn a 'hot bag' for her to carry, and was very aware of it
being hot (illegal). The pharmacy is the criminal.
The only way I could see Dawn be guily is if she presented a counterfitt prescription to the pharmacy and tricked them into selling her those drugs.
If the pharmacy was legit. then they would have told Dawn to get a prescription FIRST, before they can sell that stuff to her. THEY DID NOT! They took
her money and sent her onto the street knowing full well what lay in store, if she was searched!
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On Saturday nights when I go to the "Hood" for drugs, the dealer never mentions that what we are doing is illegal. It's amazing that he's never
advertised the illegality of his trade. I for one, never had a clue that it wasn't legal and since the dealer didn't tell me, I should be freed if
arrested.
I also understand that I won't ever be arrested unless the dealer is arrested first !
Now I've got it !
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David
Wear a helmet!!!
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Funny JR.
Diver, are you saying that a drug dealer on the street selling narcotics is the SAME as a Pharmacy???
Well...
That pretty much agrees with my point, then:
1) The pharmacy broke the law first (like the street dealer).
2) If they hadn't broke the law, then Dawn wouldn't be in possesion of those drugs.
3) The phamacy people should be jailed.
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Alright already !
No one is saying the the farmacia is innocent, only that Dawn was guilty at some level.
Don't you think she already knew it was illegal but hoped it wouldn't be enforced like it normally isn't. Don't you think she would have gone to
another farmacia or source for the drugs if this source had declined the sale ?
If it's a senior moment, your's are starting earlier than mine.........I'm older.
Now what was I saying............?
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Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Jesse, and others... please forgive me as I lapse into a senior moment (at 47)... BUT, She WAS arrested for having drugs without a prescription!!! She
got those drugs at a pharmacy (without a prescription).
You just posted that was not possible... Huh? I must be missing something here!?
If the pharmacy did not break the law, then she didn't either.
Because the pharmacy DID violate the law (first), then and only then did Dawn have the drugs illegally.
Again, if no drugs are ever sold without a Rx: Dawn would not be jailed. Drugs WERE sold freely to Dawn (without a prescription), and then she got
arrested...
The country this happened in makes no difference, Mexico or the U.S... The pharmacy gave Dawn a 'hot bag' for her to carry, and was very aware of it
being hot (illegal). The pharmacy is the criminal.
The only way I could see Dawn be guily is if she presented a counterfitt prescription to the pharmacy and tricked them into selling her those drugs.
If the pharmacy was legit. then they would have told Dawn to get a prescription FIRST, before they can sell that stuff to her. THEY DID NOT! They took
her money and sent her onto the street knowing full well what lay in store, if she was searched! |
David,
The thing here is that your actually believing what shes claiming, her story makes no sense whatsoever, its simply too strange and too far out.
From what i learned when i asked about this case is that other drugs other than seizure where involved, and the cops did use her ATM card and stole
her money, after all this happened both sides started to lie and lie until the story settled into this.
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Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Funny JR.
Diver, are you saying that a drug dealer on the street selling narcotics is the SAME as a Pharmacy???
Well...
That pretty much agrees with my point, then:
1) The pharmacy broke the law first (like the street dealer).
2) If they hadn't broke the law, then Dawn wouldn't be in possesion of those drugs.
3) The phamacy people should be jailed. |
And how do you know this David? just because Dawn said so its now a fact?
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I'm with you on this one Jesse (probably the first time) - something just doesn't smell right in her story. As messed up as cops are in Mexico they
don't need to be planting stuff on tourists like that just to make a few hundred bucks.
And with the publicity that ensued it would have been a lot easier for the mexican authorities to let her go a long time ago - I think they really
believe she's guilty of possession of the stuff they stated.
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American woman speaks out about Mexican imprisonment
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/state/20041215-0646-ca-me...
December 15, 2004
CHULA VISTA ? An American woman who spent 18 months in a Mexican prison for buying large amounts of controlled substances without a Mexican doctor's
prescription took partial blame for her predicament, saying she should have been more respectful of the country's laws.
"A lot of retired people go to Mexico to buy prescription drugs," said Dawn Marie Wilson, 49. "People need to be aware of what they are doing, and to
pay attention, that it's not a free-for-all, but a country that has laws. ... I didn't know I was doing that, but I did break the law."
Wilson was imprisoned in April 2003 after she was stopped in the Mexican port city of Ensenada carrying anti-anxiety medication, diet pills and pain
killers, and convicted of possessing controlled substances.
She was transferred in October to a U.S. prison under an option in a U.S.-Mexico treaty, and was released from U.S. federal custody Friday.
Wilson held a news conference Monday with her fiance, Terry Kennedy, at the Chula Vista office of Rep. Bob Filner, D-San Diego, who has worked for her
release. She said she is grateful for her freedom.
Wilson and Kennedy said she was drawn to Mexico's affordable medicine because she and Kennedy do not have health insurance. Most Mexican pharmacies
don't ask for Mexican prescriptions despite the country's laws, the couple said.
Wilson said she purchased medicine to help prevent epileptic seizures, and bought other medicine for a friend.
She and Kennedy also said they were disappointed with the U.S. Consulate's efforts to help her.
David Stewart, consul general in Tijuana, said consulate officials visited Wilson seven times, but can't get prisoners released automatically. Instead
they provide a list of attorneys, protest to authorities about any alleged mistreatment, communicate with family and friends, and provide dietary
supplements.
Stewart said that Wilson wasn't transferred sooner to the United States because she was pursuing several appeals that ultimately were dismissed by
Mexican courts.
Wilson, who will remain on probation in the United States for six months, said she hopes to return to Mexico when she is off probation.
"We still want to be there but would never ever buy prescription drugs without a Mexican doctor's prescription," she said.
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Mistakes made in Mexico, she admits
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/20041216-9999-2m16...
By Anna Cearley
December 16, 2004
CHULA VISTA ? Dawn Marie Wilson, who spent a year and a half in a Mexican prison for buying large quantities of controlled substances without a
Mexican doctor's prescription, said she takes part of the blame for her plight.
"A lot of retired people go to Mexico to buy prescription drugs," said Wilson, 49. "People need to be aware of what they are doing, and to pay
attention . . . it's not a free-for-all, but a country that has laws, too . . . I didn't know I was doing that, but I did break the law."
A Mexican judge sentenced Wilson to five years in prison after she was arrested in Ensenada. She was transferred in October to a U.S. prison through
an option provided through a U.S.-Mexico treaty. She was released from U.S. federal custody Friday.
It's still unclear why there was a discrepancy between the types and quantities of medications that Mexican police said they found on her and what she
claims she was actually carrying.
Wilson held a news conference Monday with her fiance, Terry Kennedy, at the Chula Vista office of Rep. Bob Filner, D-San Diego, whom they credited for
helping obtain her release. She said she is enjoying her freedom.
"Just smelling a flower is fantastic," she said. "I smelled the ocean the other night . . . there's been a lot of laughter."
The couple said Americans without health insurance, like themselves, purchase affordable medicine in Tijuana, but most of these pharmacies don't ask
for Mexican prescriptions despite Mexican laws.
"I've never been asked for a prescription," said Kennedy, 61. "It's not something that's practiced."
Wilson said she purchased some of the medicine to help prevent epileptic seizures and that she also purchased medicine for a friend.
She said that her situation was a result of bad judgment and bad luck. After her arrest in April 2003, someone used her credit card to ring up about
$4,200 in charges to her account, she said. She and Kennedy also said they were disappointed with the services provided by the U.S. Consulate.
David Stewart, consul general in Tijuana, said consular officials visited her seven times during her incarceration. During one of those times, he
said, they arranged for prison doctors to administer epilepsy medication, but the family never provided the medication.
"In her case, and other cases, people assume the consulate has a get-out-of-jail-free card," he said. "We make the protection of Americans arrested
here our top priority, but it's important to know what we can and can't do."
He said the consulate can't get anyone released, but its officers can visit the prisoner, provide a list of attorneys, protest to authorities any
alleged mistreatment, communicate with family and friends and provide dietary supplements. He said that Wilson wasn't transferred sooner to the United
States because she had been pursuing several appeals, which ultimately were dismissed by Mexican courts.
Wilson, who will remain on probation in the United States for six months, said she hopes to return to Mexico after she is off probation. She and
Kennedy had been living on a boat off the Baja California coast.
"We still want to be there but would never ever buy prescription drugs without a Mexican doctor's prescription," she said.
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