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Alm
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David, I haven't seen St Rosa in 1985 and before. But it has definitely gotten worse for tourists and gringos in the last 5-6 years due to new mine.
More congested, more polluted, more "mainland" problems.
GN though seems to be frozen in time. Salt mine, flats and mangrove canals are still the same. Big whales are degenerating, I've been told. Never
recovered after mass killing of the 19th century. We can see them now only because they live few hundred years, but genetic pool is narrow.
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rts551
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Just Because...to answer your question.
Has anyone toured the saltworks housing? and eyeopener as to how they take care of their employees (at least the white collar ones).
Ya I know too many meskins.
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tiotomasbcs
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The armpit of the Baja Peninsula! Windy and cold looks inviting in August. Good food, wide open beaches. I'm looking for property and a summer
destination for Cortez people. A location/destination. Fishing and cool Climate! Nice folks, they put up with weather most of the year. Mostly
an overnite as most know. I used to camp out on the northern beaches as many have done but economical hotels make it inviting! Love Funky! Tio
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bajagrouper
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ateo
Whaddaya got against Guerrero Negro? =)
I've always dug the place. It has the coolest name for a town ever. |
You do know the name came from the name of the Whaling Ship of Capt. Scammon.....In English "Black Warrior"
I like it because it has a Banamex in town.......
I hear the whales song
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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It's the gente, the people, the inhabitants that make or break a town not the other way around.
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajagrouper
| Quote: | Originally posted by Ateo
Whaddaya got against Guerrero Negro? =)
I've always dug the place. It has the coolest name for a town ever. |
You do know the name came from the name of the Whaling Ship of Capt. Scammon.....In English "Black Warrior"
I like it because it has a Banamex in town....... |
Above I posted a link to my article in Baja Bound on the town history, you may enjoy. Here is the part about the name:
What began as a salt mine camp called Salina Vizcaino in 1954 became the company town of Guerrero Negro in 1957, named after the lagoon the
town is next to. Guerrero Negro is the Spanish translation for "Black Warrior" which was a ship that was wrecked on the sand bars near the mouth of
the lagoon back on December 20, 1858.
Captain Robert Brown sailed into Frenchman's Lagoon on November 2, 1858. He was unaware of the events that in fewer than two months caused the
lagoon's name to be changed for all time, and that a town of over 10,000 inhabitants would be named after his ship.
Robert Brown purchased the Black Warrior in Honolulu in December of 1854. The Black Warrior's previous captain was J.C. Bogart who was well known in
the early days of San Diego history. Bogart first sailed into San Diego Bay in 1834. The Black Warrior was already a well known whaler before it was
directed towards the lagoons of Baja California, the year following Charles Scammon's discovery of one of the gray whales largest breeding grounds.
Captain Brown had picked up a load of whale oil and was being pulled out of the lagoon when strong currents pushed the Black Warrior onto the sand
bars of Frenchman's Lagoon. The coast of central Baja California has claimed many ships over the years. The sailors call the coast near Scammon's
Lagoon Malarrimo which roughly means "bad to be near".
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Alm
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In terms of climate, when I look at the weather stats, it's still hot on this section of Pacific coast in June-August. Almost as hot as on the Cortez
side. Likely with more breeze (stats don't tell this), but hot. It becomes a lot cooler to the North of El Rosario, - in Ensenada and Rosarito.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Alm
In terms of climate, when I look at the weather stats, it's still hot on this section of Pacific coast in June-August. Almost as hot as on the Cortez
side. Likely with more breeze (stats don't tell this), but hot. It becomes a lot cooler to the North of El Rosario, - in Ensenada and Rosarito.
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what the heck weather sites are you looking at!
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Alm
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| Quote: | Originally posted by willardguy
what the heck weather sites are you looking at! |
Weather "stats". Stats = Statistical Data.
There are many weather sites with both current weather and stats for previous years. Try accuweather.com for example. Click on Month, then on Year,
then on 2013, then on June (or whatever month you want). GN - around 108. La Paz - 100. Ensenada - 75.
Being in desert and about 2 miles inland, the town GN itself could be (should be) hotter than the nearby Pacific shores though.
[Edited on 5-22-2014 by Alm]
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rts551
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Accuweather not very accurate.
look at what weather channel says
http://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/graph/Guerrero+Neg...
or weather .com
http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/Guerrero+Negro+Mexico+...
That being said...there is something disjointed in Accuweathers data graph. Historical data is way higher than current data....maybe their historical
data is being reported from the gulf!
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Alm
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weather.com only shows stats for the last 2 months, i.e. from now to April 2014. When I click on "Averages", it says "No data available".
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rts551
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That's OK I am taking bets that Guerrero Negro, BCS will average cooler than 108, even with Global Climate Change! You on?
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Bird watching!!
Certainty is the child of ignorance, knowledge is the mother of doubt. Question everything!
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shari
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we always get a laugh out of AccuWeather as it the most inaccurate weather site for these parts of central pacside. GN has it's own microclimate
caused by the thousands of hectares of evaporation ponds...evaporation = cold and it is usually cloudy in the mornings till around 10, then sunny for
a few hours and socked in again in the mid afternoon but go just a few miles in any direction and is is lovely and clear.
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tiotomasbcs
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"Bacon" to tourism? Had to laugh, DK! I think you meant "bekon" as in calling out to tourists!? I'd stay an extra day for a free Bacon meal
Special, je, je, je!! Tio
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David K
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I like bacon! 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
we always get a laugh out of AccuWeather as it the most inaccurate weather site for these parts of central pacside. GN has it's own microclimate
caused by the thousands of hectares of evaporation ponds...evaporation = cold and it is usually cloudy in the mornings till around 10, then sunny for
a few hours and socked in again in the mid afternoon but go just a few miles in any direction and is is lovely and clear. |
The GN area is one of the few fog deserts in the world and was so before the salt companies arrived. The plants in that areas have adapted as they
have in the Namibia and Atacamba fog deserts.
Another nomad once contacted Accu Weather about their reports for BA and they admitted that they just took the numbers from other places -- no
connection to reality.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
Has anyone toured the saltworks housing? and eyeopener as to how they take care of their employees (at least the white collar ones).
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If I understand what you're referring to, it is a unique community of well kept, nice homes. Quite liveable. Looks somewhat like an American suburb. I
remember thinking it would be a good place to disappear to.
I spent a several days there while getting my RV repaired.
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Alm
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| Quote: | | Another nomad once contacted Accu Weather about their reports for BA and they admitted that they just took the numbers from other places -- no
connection to reality. |
This site sometimes just malfunctions. Like trying to open "Guerrero" state instead of Guerrero Negro city.
Is there any reliable source for weather averages for this area?
[Edited on 5-23-2014 by Alm]
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Alm
| Quote: | | Another nomad once contacted Accu Weather about their reports for BA and they admitted that they just took the numbers from other places -- no
connection to reality. |
This site sometimes just malfunctions. Like trying to open "Guerrero" state instead of Guerrero Negro city.
Is there any reliable source for weather averages for this area?
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for years, in the fine print, they reported that their station for this area was Guaymas. But you had to go to the bottom and read the fine
print...Twas no error.
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