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LancairDriver
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| Quote: | Originally posted by SFandH
A 5% return on investment on 1.5 million would mean netting $6,250 a month, every month. |
I would plan on another 750k for hotel restoration. If there truly is no problem with the ejido, and competent management is in place, the potential
is there to restore the hotel to its previous historical status and turn a decent profit. This property could be the key to bringing new prosperity to
all of Mulege. With any success with the holding ponds now under construction to control the devastating flooding seen recently, Mulege could be
headed for a much brighter future.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chuckie
JC43, I'll forgive you your ignorance. I have lived in Mulege for over 30 years, and until you have met Don Johnson and get to know him, your bashing
is inappropriate. If you don't want to buy the property, please don't. |
Chucky, did you live in Mulege or did you visit Mulege for some days or month? Leaving in (a guess) March or April and maybe coming back in November
only for to leave by X-Mas again? Living in Mulege means all year round, nothing else.
Otherwise you are a guest in Mulege.
BTW this is the second time you are unfriendly not to say "snotty".. I like you a lot!
What I said is what goes around in Mulege. nothing else.
And again btw, I know the Johnson family.
Can you explain to the Nomads reading this post, why Diana and hubby left the Serenidad. Although Diana was introduced by Don Johnson as the next "El
Jefe" ?
If you got a good explanation you'll get a sardine as a winner!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
| Quote: | Originally posted by SFandH
A 5% return on investment on 1.5 million would mean netting $6,250 a month, every month. |
If one could
average a 50% occupancy rate for the year at $65 a night it would gross $48,750 a month. That doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility, if someone
fixed the place up a bit and had some marketing skills. |
Last I heard, rooms were $50 per night (or less, depending on lack of occupancy) and that would mean an average of 25 rooms a night, EVERY night, at
your estimates. I'm not bashing, i'm just counting. Did you add in 'fixer-upper' costs as well, once ownership is taken? It is a little run-down.
I wish the Johnson's well, it IS a good price for the goodies, but it's going to take investment capital to recoup for a long, long time. First order
of business will be to establish trust with the 'Good-ol'-Boys' of Mulege, the true makers and breakers, and then go to work on the rest of BAUM
(Businsess As Usual, Mexico).
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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JC43
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I would plan on another 750k for hotel restoration. If there truly is no problem with the ejido, and competent management is in place, the potential
is there to restore the hotel to its previous historical status and turn a decent profit. This property could be the key to bringing new prosperity to
all of Mulege. With any success with the holding ponds now under construction to control the devastating flooding seen recently, Mulege could be
headed for a much brighter future. |
I just talked to my friends living all year round in Mulege. All access roads to the Serenidad are partially flooded due to high tide. That is normal
every summer.
The water has reached the airstrip - ponds on it.
And what about 'the potential' when global warming rises the ocean level only about several inches???
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LancairDriver
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JC43
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I would plan on another 750k for hotel restoration. If there truly is no problem with the ejido, and competent management is in place, the potential
is there to restore the hotel to its previous historical status and turn a decent profit. This property could be the key to bringing new prosperity to
all of Mulege. With any success with the holding ponds now under construction to control the devastating flooding seen recently, Mulege could be
headed for a much brighter future. |
I just talked to my friends living all year round in Mulege. All access roads to the Serenidad are partially flooded due to high tide. That is normal
every summer.
The water has reached the airstrip - ponds on it.
And what about 'the potential' when global warming rises the ocean level only about several inches??? |
I have never heard of annual summer flooding of the roads and runway due to high tides. How about the rain there of the past few days? Russ posted
some information about that. I would tend to believe this is what your friends are looking at.
[Edited on 7-6-2014 by LancairDriver]
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JC43
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I have never heard of annual summer flooding of the roads and runway due to high tides. How about the rain there of the past few days? Russ posted
some information about that. I would tend to believe this is what your friends are looking at.
[Edited on 7-6-2014 by LancairDriver] |
LD, if you never heard about that high tide in summer, flooding the access roads, is it b/c you are never in Mulege in summer?
No wonder,,,who is talking across the border about the access roads of the Serenidad in Mulege?
It's a fact that high summer tide is flooding the entire area, every year. Mostly the access road along the river. But others as well.
Today ocean waters are right next to and on the strip. And that is ocean water, not rain water. Rain water would be drained into the ocean. No doubt,
the water is salty, so what?
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LancairDriver
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JC43
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I have never heard of annual summer flooding of the roads and runway due to high tides. How about the rain there of the past few days? Russ posted
some information about that. I would tend to believe this is what your friends are looking at.
[Edited on 7-6-2014 by LancairDriver] |
LD, if you never heard about that high tide in summer, flooding the access roads, is it b/c you are never in Mulege in summer?
No wonder,,,who is talking across the border about the access roads of the Serenidad in Mulege?
It's a fact that high summer tide is flooding the entire area, every year. Mostly the access road along the river. But others as well.
Today ocean waters are right next to and on the strip. And that is ocean water, not rain water. Rain water would be drained into the ocean. No doubt,
the water is salty, so what? |
No, I never spend any time in Mulege between May and September. I'm acclimated to 65 degree summer temperatures on the Oregon Coast. Maybe a full time
Mulege resident could comment on the summer high tide flooding covering the south bank of the River?
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chivatojoe
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As a resort operator in the area it would be nice to hear from Bob and Susan from the lighthouse??
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Serenidad Hotel
| Quote: | Originally posted by chuckie
JC43, I'll forgive you your ignorance. I have lived in Mulege for over 30 years, and until you have met Don Johnson and get to know him, your bashing
is inappropriate. If you don't want to buy the property, please don't. |
I second Chuckie on this one.
I have lived in Mulegé since 2000 and kept my own aircraft at the Serenidad for many of those years.
I have known Don well during this time and although I don't know how this sits with others here, I have always found him to be the perfect gentleman.
He and Nancy have been solid citizens and I wish them well in their retirement.
[Edited on 7-6-2014 by cessna821]
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chuckie
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Just a few weeks ago, JC43 was asking basic questions about Mulege, now he is a self proclaimed expert. However so far all he has posted is rumour or
negatives, with some smoke about global warming and rising waters. I feel no need to present my creds to him as to my term of residency, or to answer
or explore questions about Dons family. The Serenidad has gotten a bit long of tooth, and Don has gotten old, we all know that. Both the hotel and the
Man, are of strong character, and a sort of legend in the area. The hotel can come back, and I wish Don a quick sale and a happy retirement. He has
earned it. This is my last post on this thread, to engage JC further would be non productive.
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willyAirstream
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JC43 is exaggerating the high tide river road flooding. There are places with 6`` deep puddles, but easily passable. The current storm has made every
dirt road a muddy mess, every steep drive a problem, butit dries quickly and will be back to normal washboard soon.
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JC43, FYI, When they built the Mulege Prison up on the hill, they built it AROUND Chuckie; he was a bit feisty in his youth (but not any more, we now
call it 'eccentric'). Get to know your 'peeps' before you lord your new knowledge over them. The estero is and always has been a flood-plain, and
even the biggest floods usually dissipate to only 4 or 5 feet deep down at that end where the water can spread out. The Hotel, houses, and Serenidad
has been there long before most of us, and will probably be there a while after.
Buena Suerte to the Johnsons; they've earned their retirement. The price is good, should be more, but times are hard. Sounds like a lot of price,
but there's a lot for the price. As stated, will need some work in more areas than one, but I had my first dance there the winter of '95 and learned
about using vanilla for bobo's there that coming April. A cook showed me in the kitchen back when Don hosted the Rotary Pig Races (with much bigger
pigs than they use now... entered one with a buddy, and damn near got trampled!). Most everyone has a Serenidad story or two. I'm going down to the
local grocery store this morning and buying a lottery ticket or two; that'd be my retirement wish, and Chuck, you can pick your own room. I get to
run the bar.
bb 
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How old are the Serenidad main buildings?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
Make some rich folks a pretty b-tchen' private home.
I"ll spend some time dreaming about it....... |
I am gonna go shake my piggy bank.....
Don't believe everything you think....
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JC43
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chuckie
Just a few weeks ago, JC43 was asking basic questions about Mulege, now he is a self proclaimed expert. However so far all he has posted is rumour or
negatives, with some smoke about global warming and rising waters. I feel no need to present my creds to him as to my term of residency, or to answer
or explore questions about Dons family. The Serenidad has gotten a bit long of tooth, and Don has gotten old, we all know that. Both the hotel and the
Man, are of strong character, and a sort of legend in the area. The hotel can come back, and I wish Don a quick sale and a happy retirement. He has
earned it. This is my last post on this thread, to engage JC further would be non productive. |
Who can read,,, has clearly an advantage, right Chucky?
I never, ever proclaimed myself as a Mulege expert.
Read again what I posted: I said I talked to folks living in Mulege all year round.
And, yes, yesterday I Skype'd with them. They did drive to the Serenidad yesterday and yes, mud peddlers every where, just like WillyAirstream
confirmed. Maybe from rain. Possible. But as the tide is on the same level then the strip or the access roads or the Serenidad itself, , water can't
drain.
And that is the news from yesterday from folks living there and watching. Not from somebody like Chucky living cross the border and b-tching around.
Q to Chuck: R U living in Mulege? Means, is your first residence located in Mulege? Or in the US. R U paying taxes in Mx? Your car is a MX car w/ an
MX plate on it? R U holding a 'Residente Permanente'? Or r u traveling to Mulege on an FM >> visitors Visa?
If u r a permanent resident I apologize! If not, don't talk like you know something better than the Mulege residents.
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It can become dangerous on Nomads sometimes when a person makes a comment about a community that falls short of only offering praise....
Some folks get kinda territorial and take shots at "outsiders" who don't meet certain made-up criteria.
I remember arguing with siblings about who had the toy first...
Don't believe everything you think....
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willyAirstream
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Chucky has probably been in Mulegè longer than anyone on this board, most of it full time.
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The fool just cant get it right. I NEVER suggested he couldn't ask questions. I said (go read it) his response was snotty, it was. I do reserve the
right to call someone on the posting of character damaging rumor, to defend good people and to decry pure BS. Mulege has many faults, I know all of
them, we don't need someone who has never been there, making up more based on a few phone calls.
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HOTEL SERENIDAD - A RARE OPPORTUNITY TO OWN A PIECE OF HISTORY
Don and Nancy Johnson have decided to pass on the legendary Hotel Serenidad for the next generation of hoteliers.
This is an incredible opportunity for an individual or a group of investors to have a prime location and viable business in beautiful Mulege.
Peruse the following link and let your imagination wander:
http://bajasur.es.craigslist.com.mx/reb/4552511196.html
I am available for any questions via Skype at mulegeproperties or via my website at www.mulege-properties.com
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JC43
| Quote: | Originally posted by chuckie
Just a few weeks ago, JC43 was asking basic questions about Mulege, now he is a self proclaimed expert. However so far all he has posted is rumour or
negatives, with some smoke about global warming and rising waters. I feel no need to present my creds to him as to my term of residency, or to answer
or explore questions about Dons family. The Serenidad has gotten a bit long of tooth, and Don has gotten old, we all know that. Both the hotel and the
Man, are of strong character, and a sort of legend in the area. The hotel can come back, and I wish Don a quick sale and a happy retirement. He has
earned it. This is my last post on this thread, to engage JC further would be non productive. |
Who can read,,, has clearly an advantage, right Chucky?
I never, ever proclaimed myself as a Mulege expert.
Read again what I posted: I said I talked to folks living in Mulege all year round.
And, yes, yesterday I Skype'd with them. They did drive to the Serenidad yesterday and yes, mud peddlers every where, just like WillyAirstream
confirmed. Maybe from rain. Possible. But as the tide is on the same level then the strip or the access roads or the Serenidad itself, , water can't
drain.
And that is the news from yesterday from folks living there and watching. Not from somebody like Chucky living cross the border and b-tching around.
Q to Chuck: R U living in Mulege? Means, is your first residence located in Mulege? Or in the US. R U paying taxes in Mx? Your car is a MX car w/ an
MX plate on it? R U holding a 'Residente Permanente'? Or r u traveling to Mulege on an FM >> visitors Visa?
If u r a permanent resident I apologize! If not, don't talk like you know something better than the Mulege residents. |
Well, JC, I shore am glad I read your posty thing on this here internet report. I had this little ol oil well here in my backyard in Oklyhoma and was
all set to plunk down about 2 million dollars to buy that real purty piece of property, but if it is as bad you you say it is, and fur shure, yu
should know, I think maybe you saved me somewhere in the neborhood of at least 2 million smackeroos.
Mama always wanted a nice place where she culd cook for them pilot types and I em pretti handi with a saw and hammer, figuring we culd turn thet
propetie into a real nice plasce.
Yurs truli,
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