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sancho
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| Quote: | Originally posted by SFandH
Mexicans at the beach don't seem to have any consideration for the people around them. |
Us Gringos need a little more space around us, as well as a quieter
soundscape, but it doesn't seem to bother the other Mex locals,
they don't find it inconsiderate to have the musica loud.
the last time I checked, IT IS THEIR COUNTRY, I believe most of
us are visitors
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monoloco
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One should be careful leaving anything unattended in Mexico, that said, in 21 years of living in BCS, we have experienced one minor burglary (the
police caught the offenders and the stolen items were recovered) and had a car stereo stolen from an unlocked truck, in the previous 21 years of
living in the states, I had 4 vehicles broken into and cleaned out, was burglarized twice, had 3 bicycles stolen, had all my camping gear stolen from
a campground while kayaking, had tools stolen off job sites twice, and was assaulted once, in all those cases, the police never caught the
perpetrators. All in all, Mexico hasn't been all that bad to me.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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DianaT
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Minor and not enough to stop us from going
Had sewage back up into our sewer hose on a small trailer we had --- YUK and kept a closer eye after that.
Left school supplies for teachers with someone only to discover they were never delivered; lesson learned to always make a direct delivery.
Have a town tell us that the front of our property was at the federal zone and there were to be no more lots in front of us and then change their
minds; in the end, we just ended up with more property.
So nothing to stop us of being there. Had a truck stolen in Guatemala and we will still go back there.
Things happen
[Edited on 7-12-2014 by DianaT]
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805gregg
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I got a speeding ticket south of Rosarito in 1968, one cop wrote the ticket the other one collected returnable bottles, I was speeding
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wessongroup
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Mood: Suicide Hot line ... please hold
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Fell in cactus once ... never did that again, the first time really stuck ...
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Whale-ista
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Inconsistent land use policies.
my friend and I bought lots w/ocean views, and were told no one would be given permits to build over 1 story tall in front of us. Ha! someone knocked
down the house in front of mine and built a two-story monstrosity.
Often it's the ones with bigger checkbooks who get the last say, but that also happens in the US.
That said: on my recent trip to Cabo Pulmo I saw a problem created by American part time residents: they blocked off a walkway adjacent to their
house, that had existed long before they moved in and that gave direct access to the beach, shops and restaurants. They simply built concrete walls,
without asking for permission from neighbors or local government.
People now can't get to these restaurants and shops without walking more than twice as far, so it's created problems for the businesses adjacent to
the closed walkway.
Something tells me they would not have blocked off a walkway to the beach in the United States the way they did in this situation. Compounding the
problem, they're only there a few months out of the year.
And oh yes-both the husband and wife are attorneys in the US.
[Edited on 7-12-2014 by Whale-ista]
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
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Floatflyer
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Theft of a $150,000 airplane in '04 and attempted theft of the replacement 6 months later!! Thankfully full covered by insurance but a long walk back
to the USA!
Having squatters move into a neighbor's place and spending $80,000 on lawyers for nothing in trying to get them removed. Cost split 18 ways, whew.
There are many more but we still keep coming back.
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Ateo
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I once had to drive all the way from Salsipuedes to La Salina to restock the tequila during my 30th b-day party.
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woody with a view
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last time i drank corona we were camped "out there" during summer. after 3 days the ice was gone so we used a dive bag to keep the beers in the water
6 feet deep with an empty 2 liter for a buoy. 70 degree corona beats 100 degree corona but i'll never drink the stuff again!
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wilderone
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The only thing that will pop my bubble is the destruction of Baja itself - turning pristine beaches into hotels, no fish to catch, drug boat
operations - you see their little supply structures along the coast and know you can't be anywhere near there. Eliminating dirt road access with new
highway berms, barbed wire fences. permanent gringo encampments perched on bay cliffs that used to be free of such clutter. Though still plenty of
places to go for adventure and solitude.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wilderone
The only thing that will pop my bubble is the destruction of Baja itself - turning pristine beaches into hotels, no fish to catch, drug boat
operations - you see their little supply structures along the coast and know you can't be anywhere near there. Eliminating dirt road access with new
highway berms, barbed wire fences. permanent gringo encampments perched on bay cliffs that used to be free of such clutter. Though still plenty of
places to go for adventure and solitude. |
Yep!
Others who have recently 'discovered' Baja call all that 'progress'!! 
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mulegemichael
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in over 40 years of visiting/living in baja been ripped off three times...a wallet stolen out of my hotel room,(which was not lockable), a wallet
stolen out of my house,(which was not locked), and a battery stolen out of our car,(which was not locked).....now.....who do you think was at fault in
all these incidents?....yup!
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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MMc
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I have always believed "the worse it gets the better the story" I have great stories.
"Never teach a pig to sing it frustrates you and annoys the pig" - W.C.Fields
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mulegemichael
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nope....wrong answer....it was MY fault for not locking up and making a thief!...and i am FINALLY diligent in that regard.
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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wiltonh
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We started going to the mainland in the late 60s and then we found Baja. On our first or second trip we were camped on the beach at San Felipe. We
had taken down 2 motorcycles and windsurfing gear. One evening we had come back from riding the motorcycles and everyone was in a hurry to go out to
eat, so we parked the bikes and went with them. In the morning the motorcycles were gone. They had been locked until that evening so we blamed the
locals, until we talked to our neighbors. They had seen two Americans come into our camp after dark and push the bikes out to the beach. At that
time they thought it was us and did not sound an alarm. The guys came back with bolt cutters and took their locked up 3 wheeler. During this period
the Americans were coming down with their motorcycle trailers half full and going back with a full load.
We are more careful now and have spent up to 4 months per year in Baja for the last 12 years.
We have had the "what would pop your bubble" discussion several times while sitting in Baja. The one thing that might make my bubble burst for a
while would be a whale or some other large animal deciding to choose my beach for its final resting spot. It would be time to at least change
beaches.
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Alm
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What exactly was the OP question, if there was a question at all? 
To "pop a bubble" in this context means something suddenly makes you change your previous impressions. Happened to many gringos in Mexico, there is
no reason to even ask.
But... This forum is what it is. Many Nomads have been living in Baja for decades, and before they had moved, they've been coming here for decades.
Their learning curve is now flat, anything that could've happened, has already happened. If any major "bubble popping" occurred, it was a while ago,
they have already digested it, incorporated it in their perception of the place, and to them it's not "popping a bubble".
Besides, many just can't go back North. No home there anymore, or have got used to everything "Baja" to the point when getting used to anything "NOB"
would be painful.
A few repeated assaults with weapons would probably pop the bubble for some people to the point when they just can't stay there anymore, or would stop
coming. And for some people it wouldn't.
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willardguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Alm
What exactly was the OP question, if there was a question at all?
To "pop a bubble" in this context means something suddenly makes you change your previous impressions. Happened to many gringos in Mexico, there is
no reason to even ask.
But... This forum is what it is. Many Nomads have been living in Baja for decades, and before they had moved, they've been coming here for decades.
Their learning curve is now flat, anything that could've happened, has already happened. If any major "bubble popping" occurred, it was a while ago,
they have already digested it, incorporated it in their perception of the place, and to them it's not "popping a bubble".
Besides, many just can't go back North. No home there anymore, or have got used to everything "Baja" to the point when getting used to anything "NOB"
would be painful.
A few repeated assaults with weapons would probably pop the bubble for some people to the point when they just can't stay there anymore, or would stop
coming. And for some people it wouldn't. |
sounded like a question to me!
pop your bubble?
I am like a kid in disneyland when it comes to baja or all of mexico, love it, love it. Not to be negative and it probably will come out that way but
what if anything actually popped YOUR bubble about mexico?
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bledito
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I always thought the saying was, "What burst your bubble?". Mine so far I guess, when in Cabo, is the relentless timeshare hawking. It just gets
annoying. reason why, while I was considering Cabo as a part time home I decided on the East Cape instead. no timeshare hawkers there so far.
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Alm
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I am like a kid in disneyland when it comes to baja or all of mexico, love it, love it. Not to be negative and it probably will come out that way but
what if anything actually popped YOUR bubble about mexico? |
Nothing so far, but, hypothetically, it would take same things as with YOUR bubble. Or anybody else, for that matter. Repeated violence. Depends on how often and how much. There are a lot of things not to love and even not to
like in Baja, some of them guys have already mentioned, like over-development. And there are others - omnipresent theft, dirt, piles of garbage on
the shores or even in arroyos in town. I think, what will eventually make my living here impossible and meaningless, is not a violence or theft or
garbage, but over-development and Americanization.
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Marc
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I leave at home the Rolex and the Nikon.
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