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dasubergeek
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You can buy a car with fronterizo plates (orange border on the plate rather than blue). Then if you want to drive past Empalme, Sonora, you just do
the importation there just like if it were a US-plated car. I don't know the rules. There's also all the people driving ANAPROMEX cars which just
requires that you buy their insurance, but you can't take those to the states, whereas you can with fronterizo plates.
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805gregg
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Marry a Mexican guy or gal
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singleshot
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| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
| Quote: | Originally posted by willardguy
| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
| Quote: | Originally posted by willardguy
to become a TEMPORARY resident you must show financial solvency amounting to not less than$1900 a month ( or property worth at least $103,500).
otherwise forget the whole thing and get a tourist visa every six months (if it makes you feel better)  |
I believe that the financial requirements are only necessary for a
residencial permanente. To get anything beyond a tourist visa, you must start the process at a Mexican embassy in your home country.
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nope, those are the requirements for TEMPORARY. for a PERMANENT the requirement is $2600 a month!
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I stand corrected, I know about the financial requirements for a permanent residency, because I have one,
but I didn't realize that there was one for a temporary residency. |
I just got my second Mexican visa and I can say that the financial requirements are not something that is "set in stone".
My first year in Mexico (a different state), 2010, I got a "No Inmigrante" "Rentista-No Lucrativa" which was the temporary resident visa at that time.
This was shortly after the rules had changed. There was a lot of discussion on the expat boards about the requirements. When I posted my experience of
getting a visa with much less income than what was required, I was called a liar. (not this board)
That visa expired after I moved to Baja. I didn't renew that visa for a variety of reasons. I started trying to get a new visa last December. I was
given three information sheets from the Mexican consulate in San Diego (at three different visits) and all had different financial requirements.
The first time I went in with all my documents, I was told that the $1300/mn income requirement that I had been informed of originally was incorrect
and that I needed to show a $1400/mn BALANCE in my bank statements. My balance didn't meet those requirements, although they could have if I had known
this in the beginning.
So, I wait 3 more months, making sure that I maintain a sufficient balance in my account. When I go back in, I was told that both of the previous
income requirement amounts were incorrect and that it is actually a $2000/mn income but fortunately, after I showed the lady how to add, I made the
cut.
Bottom line is I got a "Residente Permanente" visa with less than $2600/mn income.
Bottom line is, don't believe what you're told or what you read about government requirements. I know it's nice to find out before you go but it
doesn't make any difference. Whatever they tell you the first time will be changed the second time. I think it's a test to see how bad you want the
visa.
... oh yeah and btw, the 180 day tourist visa that I wasted $25 on was not needed, I had to go back and get a 5 day pass that is free and make sure
you tell them that it is for your visa application.
[Edited on 8-3-2014 by singleshot]
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Tioloco
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Just part of the Mexican system.... You never know what you are going to get. I will say having a child of two American parents born in Mexico was as
easy and pleasant as possible. A fair amount of paperwork, but no significant hurdles. And going to a private hospital was a very positive experience
with incredible hospitality.
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dasubergeek
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$2600 m.n.? That's, like, $200 US. Seems low. Or did you mean per month?
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singleshot
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2600/mn (USD) not 2600(MP)/mn... at least that is what I assumed. It was in response to an earlier post. I don't know where that figure comes from.
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My goal at the moment is to get a Mexican drivers license so that I can buy a Mexican-plated car down here.
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I think that to get a Mex DL, you need to have a Mex status like temporary resident FMRT or permanent FMRP. Not a tourist visa. Some people probably
got lucky, or they had FMRT in addition to their electrical bills.
As others noted, to get FMRT you need to show either US 2.5K income per month or US 100K in the bank. For FMRP you need top show US 125K in the bank.
Property in Mex could help to reduce these requirements, depends on the office. I recall that 250K property eliminates these requirements altogether.
Edit - PS: these are relatively new regs. The numbers are calculated from minimal Mex wages in pesos, so they are approximate, give or take a few
percent. In the past gringos could get permanent status with nothing but social pension. Not anymore.
[Edited on 8-6-2014 by Alm]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Alm
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My goal at the moment is to get a Mexican drivers license so that I can buy a Mexican-plated car down here.
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I think that to get a Mex DL, you need to have a Mex status like temporary resident FMRT or permanent FMRP. Not a tourist visa. Some people probably
got lucky, or they had FMRT in addition to their electrical bills.
As others noted, to get FMRT you need to show either US 2.5K income per month or US 100K in the bank. For FMRP you need top show US 125K in the bank.
Property in Mex could help to reduce these requirements, depends on the office. I recall that 250K property eliminates these requirements altogether.
Edit - PS: these are relatively new regs. The numbers are calculated from minimal Mex wages in pesos, so they are approximate, give or take a few
percent. In the past gringos could get permanent status with nothing but social pension. Not anymore.
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I don't know about the driver's license but if the numbers stated for a visa were firm, I would not have a permanent resident visa in my possession.
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Mulegena
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mulegena
1. Check with your Mexican immigration officer upon entering Mexico at any US-Mexican border crossing as to the rules and requirements on getting a
180-day entrance visa.
2. Check with your local driver's license office (don't know the name, probably in the pólice station) as to the rules and requirements on getting a
Mexican driver's license.
3. Check with your local Oficina de Finanza and Onapafa offices as to the rules and requirements on owning and registering a Mexican car.
4. Check with your local Oficina de Aduana as to the rules and requirements on importing a car from the US or elsewhere.
4. Check with your local Oficina de Inmigrado as to the rules and requirements on entering the Mexican resident immigrant system.
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"Raise your words, not your voice. It's rain that grows flowers, not thunder." ~Rumi
"It's the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." ~ Aristotle
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Alm
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if the numbers stated for a visa were firm, I would not have a permanent resident visa in my possession. |
Numbers in pesos are firm. But there are some exceptions. People with property can get a visa with less money. People who were already in possession
of one of "old" visas by the time that new legislation came into effect, were exempt from these requirements. People who were in the process of
getting their "old" permanent visa, were also exempt.
There is also a vague paragraph about foreigners that score a certain number of points based on their education, experience in professions of high
demand, investments, even knowledge of Mexican culture and language, believe it or not. Not much details - it appears that they left it in discretion
of local INM offices, "con estilo Mexicano".
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singleshot
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Alm
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if the numbers stated for a visa were firm, I would not have a permanent resident visa in my possession. |
Numbers in pesos are firm. But there are some exceptions. People with property can get a visa with less money. People who were already in possession
of one of "old" visas by the time that new legislation came into effect, were exempt from these requirements. People who were in the process of
getting their "old" permanent visa, were also exempt.
There is also a vague paragraph about foreigners that score a certain number of points based on their education, experience in professions of high
demand, investments, even knowledge of Mexican culture and language, believe it or not. Not much details - it appears that they left it in discretion
of local INM offices, "con estilo Mexicano". |
I stand by my statement.
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Mulegena
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mulegena
| Quote: | Originally posted by Mulegena
1. Check with your Mexican immigration officer upon entering Mexico at any US-Mexican border crossing as to the rules and requirements on getting a
180-day entrance visa.
2. Check with your local driver's license office (don't know the name, probably in the pólice station) as to the rules and requirements on getting a
Mexican driver's license.
3. Check with your local Oficina de Finanza and Onapafa offices as to the rules and requirements on owning and registering a Mexican car.
4. Check with your local Oficina de Aduana as to the rules and requirements on importing a car from the US or elsewhere.
4. Check with your local Oficina de Inmigrado as to the rules and requirements on entering the Mexican resident immigrant system.
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At the risk of redundancy I stand by my statement.
"Raise your words, not your voice. It's rain that grows flowers, not thunder." ~Rumi
"It's the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." ~ Aristotle
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