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[*] posted on 8-1-2014 at 10:12 PM


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[*] posted on 8-2-2014 at 09:38 AM


I won't use BFG All-Terrain's. Had a sidewall blowout on the Laguna San Ignacio road, and didn't see any obvious reason for it. Also knowing of a widespread BFG issue at a SCORE race out of Mexicali (now, many-many years ago), I chose personally to look elsewhere for tires. After trying out a set of Bridgestone Duelers, I've never looked back. The Bridgestone Duelers have been reliable and tough through many sets - for over 15 years now.

Of note: the Bridgestone Duelers have been for a Toyota Tacoma. The BFG blowout was on an earlier model Toyota 4WD pickup.




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[*] posted on 8-2-2014 at 10:12 AM


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I won't use BFG All-Terrain's. Had a sidewall blowout on the Laguna San Ignacio road, and didn't see any obvious reason for it. Also knowing of a widespread BFG issue at a SCORE race out of Mexicali (now, many-many years ago), I chose personally to look elsewhere for tires. After trying out a set of Bridgestone Duelers, I've never looked back. The Bridgestone Duelers have been reliable and tough through many sets - for over 15 years now.

Of note: the Bridgestone Duelers have been for a Toyota Tacoma. The BFG blowout was on an earlier model Toyota 4WD pickup.


Oh Doug, your just another BFG hater aren't you? :lol:

Thanks for your fearless post of another actual witnessed sidewall fail. There are many more I have heard about (but hearsay is not admissible here, right?)
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[*] posted on 8-2-2014 at 10:36 AM


What? No race car?

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[*] posted on 8-2-2014 at 10:39 AM


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What? No race car?



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[*] posted on 8-2-2014 at 11:05 AM


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What? No race car?



Good luck in baja with your yugo! loser!


Hey, I am not the one who said they had a race car! What does that make you?
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[*] posted on 8-2-2014 at 12:11 PM


Since 1993 using BFG TA KO tires on four 4x4 trucks I've never had a sidewall blowout or flat from a cut, I did have a large nail sticking in the sidewall when I stopped for gas at a Shell station on the US side and changed the tire before it lost air. I have had one flat from a rock thru the tread. two or three, maybe four nails in the tread but caught before going flat including last trip in July. Can of Fix a Flat saved the day, small nail the size of a pencil lead. I left LA Bay in May 2003 and after a while I heard a noise that seemed odd. I lifted my hands from the steering wheel but the truck stayed straight. I could not tell while driving that anything was wrong except that noise which at first I thought was the asphalt pavement. Finally stopped and the left rear tire was flat, roofing nail from the hotel parking lot in the tread. They were putting a new roof on while we were there. Ran on the tire so long I damaged the sidewall.
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[*] posted on 8-2-2014 at 12:14 PM


Obviously, many more people happy with them than not.
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[*] posted on 8-2-2014 at 12:24 PM


If I could make love to my Baja Champions, I would.



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[*] posted on 8-2-2014 at 12:26 PM


Depending on the tire size..... Would be like throwing a hotdog down a hallway... Jajaja
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[*] posted on 8-2-2014 at 12:26 PM


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Depending on the tire size..... Would be like throwing a hotdog down a hallway... Jajaja


That made me laugh like I've never laughed before. Thanks.

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[*] posted on 8-2-2014 at 12:30 PM


I have had to deal with 1 flat on my Baja Champions. It happened when I was living in North Park, San Diego. I had a stalker girlfriend. She would sleep on my front porch. One morning during one of her bi-polar events, she slashed my tire with an ice pick.

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[*] posted on 8-2-2014 at 07:19 PM


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I won't use BFG All-Terrain's. Had a sidewall blowout on the Laguna San Ignacio road, and didn't see any obvious reason for it. Also knowing of a widespread BFG issue at a SCORE race out of Mexicali (now, many-many years ago), I chose personally to look elsewhere for tires. After trying out a set of Bridgestone Duelers, I've never looked back. The Bridgestone Duelers have been reliable and tough through many sets - for over 15 years now.

Of note: the Bridgestone Duelers have been for a Toyota Tacoma. The BFG blowout was on an earlier model Toyota 4WD pickup.


Oh Doug, your just another BFG hater aren't you? :lol:

Thanks for your fearless post of another actual witnessed sidewall fail. There are many more I have heard about (but hearsay is not admissible here, right?)
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Ok, there's two cases, still wouldn't call that repeated.. Would you?

Not hating on you dude, just want you to back up your claims so you don't look like such a blowhard.. Just giving you that chance that's all.. Take it or leave it..
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[*] posted on 8-2-2014 at 08:40 PM


Ateo, surprised the tire couldn't repel a psycho chick. I will have to consider that failure on my next tire purchase. I bet some of the other brands would've shrugged that off, no sweat.
Gnukid, that is a clean older Bronco.
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[*] posted on 8-3-2014 at 07:32 AM


I ran BFG TA's for years, then cheeped out a few years back and bought a set of Cooper tires. This last spring in Mulege headed out to Playa Naranos (SP) blew two of the coopers...rocks through the center of the treads on both. Front and back tires on the same side. Same rock?
My spare (original tires) was a new BFG TA and reminded me how hassle free these tires are. Found a lantana (SP) to repair the other and when back home replaced the Coopers.... happy, happy, happy.
(other than road noise when wearing down to 50% of tread life)




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[*] posted on 8-3-2014 at 08:08 AM


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I won't use BFG All-Terrain's. Had a sidewall blowout on the Laguna San Ignacio road, and didn't see any obvious reason for it. Also knowing of a widespread BFG issue at a SCORE race out of Mexicali (now, many-many years ago), I chose personally to look elsewhere for tires. After trying out a set of Bridgestone Duelers, I've never looked back. The Bridgestone Duelers have been reliable and tough through many sets - for over 15 years now.

Of note: the Bridgestone Duelers have been for a Toyota Tacoma. The BFG blowout was on an earlier model Toyota 4WD pickup.


Oh Doug, your just another BFG hater aren't you? :lol:

Thanks for your fearless post of another actual witnessed sidewall fail. There are many more I have heard about (but hearsay is not admissible here, right?)
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Ok, there's two cases, still wouldn't call that repeated.. Would you?

Not hating on you dude, just want you to back up your claims so you don't look like such a blowhard.. Just giving you that chance that's all.. Take it or leave it..


How many times do I need to repeat myself Tomas? I was in a truck in 2001 and again in 2014 with new All Terrain TAs that had a sidewall failure. That's 2. Doug just posted of one, total 3.

Now, if others are not afraid of your repeated questioning of this matter, they may come forward? There is no doubt that BFG has the most popular tire, that it is great for MOST people. I just think they use their 3 ply sidewall as a selling feature and that does not make the tire invulnerable to sidewall damage, so be warned. I see MANY BFGs along the side of roads with sidewall rips.

No hate, nothing made up, just observations, ie. science.

Do you hate Toyo, Cooper, Hankook, GoodYear, Yokohama, Bridgestone? Because you don't talk positive about them, I am wondering? The point is, tires are supposed to be good, so posts about good tires don't really add to the knowledge base. However, when a tire fails, it is good to report either to save others from disappointment or so the word gets back to the manufacturer to IMPROVE the product.




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I ran BFG TA's for years, then cheeped out a few years back and bought a set of Cooper tires. This last spring in Mulege headed out to Playa Naranos (SP) blew two of the coopers...rocks through the center of the treads on both. Front and back tires on the same side. Same rock?
My spare (original tires) was a new BFG TA and reminded me how hassle free these tires are. Found a lantana (SP) to repair the other and when back home replaced the Coopers.... happy, happy, happy.
(other than road noise when wearing down to 50% of tread life)



Since Cooper (like BFG) makes many different kinds of tires, please tell us which tire failed. I am also wondering what was the pressure you were running and how fast where you driving. Yes, it sounds like the same object indeed!




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[*] posted on 8-3-2014 at 09:23 AM


Along the same line ...

This is one of the COPS Trophy Truck BFG Baja TA tires after the SF250 a couple years ago - the bigger stick was about 2x the diameter of a pencil. Yep, still holding air.





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[*] posted on 8-3-2014 at 09:53 AM


1998 We was going into Abreojos with a new truck sporting Goodyear tires. This was when the road was washboard most of the way in. That trip I was doing the 45 mph and just hitting the tops of the washboard. About 50 miles in the rack get lose I fix it and 3 more miles I get a flat. We go into town to fix the tire before making camp.

Next day I am on the beach south of camp clamming and when I back to the truck, flat tire. Swich it out and back to the tire guy. This one can't be fixed, rock didn't penetrate the tire but busted the tire enough it had a leak. So I purchase a new BFG KO. while talking to the trie guy he says" "I see a lot of tires, The BFG are the best for out here.

Leaving be come back home I get a flat before the highway. We get it fixed in GN the guy put a nails though it so he knows where the hole is. He pushes the nail back from the inside and patches it up. He didn't pull the nail out however, I will learn this when I am replacing another flat.

We are meeting some friends on the beach at Colonet, I have another tire going flat on the road in. This is the tire that has the patch and nail in it. We limp into their camp with the idea they'll be able to take the tire going flat and the flat spare. I as pull up into camp my body says you know you have a flat? I say "yup the left rear" he says "no, the right front". All three get fixed in town, and yes, he gets a flat driving into town.
That trip I put a hole in all my tire including the spare.

When I get home all the tires including the spare are replaced with a larger BFG KO's.

I no longer drive 45 mph over the top of washboard.

I no longer run tire at 50 PSI with a overloaded truck.

I no longer run a truck off road with full tire pressure.

I only run premium tires, Michelin, Generals BFG's and I have put on the truck before I pick it up.




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