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gnukid
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Why not expect to itemize every item and unload it and reload it? So what? Expect the worst and nothing will be surprising, besides what's your hurry
anyway?
Keep your parents out of it, tell them to sit in a hotel nearby in San diego at the pool, and when you get done, whether its in a few hours or days,
you'll call and tell them to leave the hotel and catch up to in San Quintin.
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mojo_norte
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
Why not expect to itemize every item and unload it and reload it? So what? Expect the worst and nothing will be surprising, besides what's your hurry
anyway?
Keep your parents out of it, tell them to sit in a hotel nearby in San diego at the pool, and when you get done, whether its in a few hours or days,
you'll call and tell them to leave the hotel and catch up to in San Quintin. |
Yes, I would send the Blazer and ATV and Camry down 1st on a tourist visa - on a reconnaissance - try and sort out your residency permit ( a number of
agencies can help you with this - Seven Seas , Pay Dennis) and then drive the Camry back up and collect the Truck/ Trailer. Try and do the one time
import of goods as mentioned by DK or if you are going to 'Go For It' at least have a detailed list of goods and with realistic values and expect to
pay some duty. The conventional wisdom here is expect the unexpected , don't be in a hurry and stay as legal as possible.
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desertcpl
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when do you plan on doing this,, i sure would think twice about
doing this in the summer months, i would think you would be asking for problems
your trailers really need to be in tip top shape
i know from experience,, broken springs,
and yes cross at Tecate
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by majicparrot
why is not going to work?
People on here have said you can do it and given examples of how to do it. But the ones who say don't, have no real examples. I know it can be done I
have had friends and family do it. Unfortunately my Family member is no longer with us. Just like on here I get conflicting story's.
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You are getting conflicting stories because:
A. Everyone has a different experience (even those who have no real examples)
B. You are dealing with Mexico, and can't base your expectations on reality
C. No matter who you talk to or deal with in the Mexican government, you will get conflicting stories, even from the same person several hours apart
Better to get a shipping company or importer who has a "working agreement" with Mexican Customs.....it will make your life easier........or not.
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gnukid
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You can get the residents temporal or permanente started by going to the Mexican consulate in your home town in the USA. If you have income or savings
you can qualify for a residents permanente with a $26 dollar fee and be on the way to Barriles and then go to the INM in La Paz to complete or have
"pay dennis" do it for you. Then you can one time import the casa de menaje.
Go to mexconnect forum > live work > for more residents permanente info or ask.
You do not need a utility bill though it helps since you need to know your address, a bill can help or the esrituros fido / title papers.
Good advice about waiting for it to cool down, also there is more of this type of traffic Oct 15-May15th so it can go more smoothly. Most gringos
don't understand if you stand in the boiling sun for 15 minutes, let alone loading heavy items you put yourself at great risk, especially if you are
not used to it.
Even if you get past the border, if you do not have a proper importation of goods, at any point you are still at risk of being asked about it by
aduana if they are at a military inspection, though very unlikely.
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beachbum1A
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| Quote: | Originally posted by majicparrot
This is going to be an epic trip we are bringing 3 cars 2 trailers. We will be crossing at San Diego
[Edited on 8-7-2014 by majicparrot] |
EP-IC defination;
: telling a story about a hero or about exciting events or adventures
: very great or large and usually difficult or impressive
IT WILL BE THAT - GUARANTEED.
Just do it!
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Pescador
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If you are doing a one time importation called a Menaje de Traje you need to get all the information from a broker and have a complete list of what
you are carrying, itemized with serial numbers and the like. There is a limit on value at somewhere around $4,000 I believe, but I am not exactly
sure on that. You will have to cross at Otay Mesa or at Tecate, they will not allow you to do that at San Ysidro.
In the old days we used to "wing it" and you schmoozed your way through with some fancy talking and a few bucks, but those days are long gone. Do not
try it, as you will have lots of problems with that approach. Tecate is no better or worse than the other crossings and all of the new border people
are educated and have been trained in doing their job effectively. The election of Pena-Nieto has increased the collection of all possible taxes and
they are treating tourists and locals alike in that regard. So do yourself a big favor and find out exactly what you need to do to legally import
your things on the trailer.
I helped a person go through this just this year and it is much different than when I moved down here some years ago.
The suggestions about vehicle preparation is learned from many years of experience by members of this forum but you certainly have the freedom to
either follow that or completely disregard that. In either case I don't think I will be handing out my phone number until your trip is completed.
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David K
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Great replies from elizabeth and Pescadero, others too! I wasn't sure what the new visa was called, so thanks for clearing up the FM-3 name for me.
I have not done this, but I have been a member of this forum the longest and have read enough posts to know that you can't just move a home into
Mexico like you can crossing a state line in the U.S.
I am glad you have enough replies now to let you know of what would happen at the San Ysidro/Tijuana crossing. You do need to use Otay for cargo (or
other ports to the east).
Best of luck to you!
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fixtrauma
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PLEASE.........a post trip report!
I read this entire thread to my wife as we relived many driving experiences. The hair stood up on the back of our
necks for multiple reasons as we read your initial post. Yes......we made some trips that fit into this category and survived but the chances for
significant trouble was peering around every corner. We have augmented our travel in many ways because of our experiences and the advice from this
forum. We believe that the advice of caution offered by those before me should weight heavily.
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sd
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My sister crossed Tecate southbound last week in a Camry. Border crossing was having many cars open their trunks and hoods. Never had them ask me to
open the hood.
When I cross with a quad they always check my registration on the quad.
Always very professional. I have seen a large enclosed trailer being off loaded for inspection going south bound.
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bajalearner
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4 years ago, I brought 2 trailer loads of household goods and furniture thru Otay on a rented long Uhaul open trailer and my van. I was moving to a
rental house in Tijuana. The customs girl made a list of items in about 10 minutes and asked for my residency visa. I did not have one which she
said I could not bring my load into MX. She disappeared for 20 mins and returned to tell me I need to pay $65 dllrs and I could proceed. I paid
and went on my way. I did the same thing a few hours later with the second load with a different guy who did not ask for a visa and accessed another
$60. They only listed the larger items for the most part.
I think the opinions and experiences given on this forum are valuable but I read them and form my on plan based on my abilities and limitations. Then
I accept the problems and dead ends that I sometimes encounter and I smile when things go smoothly. I am resourceful and accept changes.
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micah202
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
| Quote: | Originally posted by Pescador
If you are doing a one time importation called a Menaje de Traje... |
It does rhyme, (and made me giggle) but
I believe that's "Menaje de Casa". |
...perhaps ole'Pescad's got something else on the mind!
........darn!....now I'm all distracted too 
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
| Quote: | Originally posted by Pescador
If you are doing a one time importation called a Menaje de Traje... |
It does rhyme, (and made me giggle) but
I believe that's "Menaje de Casa". |
Maybe he's thinking of un traje de bańo. 
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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elizabeth
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
| Quote: | Originally posted by Pescador
If you are doing a one time importation called a Menaje de Traje... |
It does rhyme, (and made me giggle) but
I believe that's "Menaje de Casa". |
Maybe not if it's all clothing!
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boe4fun
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Here's someone we use for our Rotarian Clinic in La Paz - she's very reasonable on pricing (at least for the La Balandra Rotary Club):
Monica E. Page
Monica Page Logistics Corp.
7577 Airway Road Ste. # 103
San Diego, Ca. 92154
Tel (619) 777-8909
Fax (619) 671-7014
Cell (619) 666-4529
Email: mpage@monicapagelogistics.com
http://www.monicapagelogistics.com/
Two dirt roads diverged in Baja and I, I took the one less graveled by......
Soy ignorante, apático y ambivalente. No lo sé y no me importa, ni modo.
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weebray
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Gone are the days when you could slip someone 50 bucks to "look the other way". As has been pointed out, things have changed in the last few years.
A menaje de casa will help smooth the ruffles, it will not absolve you of some fees which you will have to pay to the importer. I have a friend that
just crossed the border a couple of weeks ago with a menaje. If you would like to pm me I will give you his name an number for the latest situation.
They rolled the dice for a green light and got one. They still got pulled over. That same thing has happened to us.
Every beautiful beach in the world needs a few condo towers - NOT.
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majicparrot
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To clarify -
We consider ourselves reasonably intelligent adults, and are doing everything we can to prepare for this wild ride.
We have been to Baja multiple times over the years.
We are having a house built there.
We're not leaving until Nov, to avoid the heat.
One of us is a mechanic, so the vehicles are in near-perfect condition and have been pretty well prepped for Baja life.
The mechanic is also familiar with driving large vehicles and towing trailers.
We've driven around the southern end of the peninsula many times over the years, so we are familiar with the roads, drivers, livestock, etc. They're
definitely entertaining.
We simply had not driven across the US-MX border, so we don't know what to expect for that segment of the trip.
It sounds like our best bet is to expect the unexpected, pack extra tires, bring tools for the inevitable roadside repairs, make a detailed list of
the contents of the trailer, have every imaginable piece of official paperwork handy, and get both our temporary resident visas & a menaje de casa
before we arrive at the crossing (most probably from the local consulate).
Am I missing anything?
We deeply appreciate all of the constructive comments, and welcome any more information, thoughts, or ideas that will help us get to our new casa
mexicana. It is because of the abundance of helpful, positive, adventurous folks like you that we are making this move.
For those that doubt our ability to accomplish this... we will undoubtedly post up a comical and entertaining trip report once the dust settles.
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chippy
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You´ll be fine. I would cross in Tecate. Don´t let some of the "arm chair quarter backs" put you off your plan. Its been done by many and probably
(me) with longer rigs. Nov. is perfect. Keep a sense of humour with the officials.
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vandenberg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by majicparrot
To clarify -
We consider ourselves reasonably intelligent adults, and are doing everything we can to prepare for this wild ride.
We have been to Baja multiple times over the years.
We are having a house built there.
We're not leaving until Nov, to avoid the heat.
One of us is a mechanic, so the vehicles are in near-perfect condition and have been pretty well prepped for Baja life.
The mechanic is also familiar with driving large vehicles and towing trailers.
We've driven around the southern end of the peninsula many times over the years, so we are familiar with the roads, drivers, livestock, etc. They're
definitely entertaining.
We simply had not driven across the US-MX border, so we don't know what to expect for that segment of the trip.
It sounds like our best bet is to expect the unexpected, pack extra tires, bring tools for the inevitable roadside repairs, make a detailed list of
the contents of the trailer, have every imaginable piece of official paperwork handy, and get both our temporary resident visas & a menaje de casa
before we arrive at the crossing (most probably from the local consulate).
Am I missing anything?
We deeply appreciate all of the constructive comments, and welcome any more information, thoughts, or ideas that will help us get to our new casa
mexicana. It is because of the abundance of helpful, positive, adventurous folks like you that we are making this move.
For those that doubt our ability to accomplish this... we will undoubtedly post up a comical and entertaining trip report once the dust settles.
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You're talking a lot more sense here than in your original post.
Good luck and God's speed!!
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majicparrot
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vandenberg
| Quote: | Originally posted by majicparrot
To clarify -
We consider ourselves reasonably intelligent adults, and are doing everything we can to prepare for this wild ride.
We have been to Baja multiple times over the years.
We are having a house built there.
We're not leaving until Nov, to avoid the heat.
One of us is a mechanic, so the vehicles are in near-perfect condition and have been pretty well prepped for Baja life.
The mechanic is also familiar with driving large vehicles and towing trailers.
We've driven around the southern end of the peninsula many times over the years, so we are familiar with the roads, drivers, livestock, etc. They're
definitely entertaining.
We simply had not driven across the US-MX border, so we don't know what to expect for that segment of the trip.
It sounds like our best bet is to expect the unexpected, pack extra tires, bring tools for the inevitable roadside repairs, make a detailed list of
the contents of the trailer, have every imaginable piece of official paperwork handy, and get both our temporary resident visas & a menaje de casa
before we arrive at the crossing (most probably from the local consulate).
Am I missing anything?
We deeply appreciate all of the constructive comments, and welcome any more information, thoughts, or ideas that will help us get to our new casa
mexicana. It is because of the abundance of helpful, positive, adventurous folks like you that we are making this move.
For those that doubt our ability to accomplish this... we will undoubtedly post up a comical and entertaining trip report once the dust settles.
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You're talking a lot more sense here than in your original post.
Good luck and God's speed!! |
that's cuz I'm wifey (the 'parrot' part of this loco duo), and I'm a little bit more... experienced, shall we say... at this interwebs stuff.
[Edited on 8-8-2014 by majicparrot]
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