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[*] posted on 8-20-2014 at 08:34 AM


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When you change addresses, you are required to notify SENTRI and explain where, why and when you moved. As you know, when crossing, you will routinely be asked why you were in MX and where you are going. Those answers could impact the SENTRI status. SENTRI is run like the Gestapo so be careful what you say and do. One person posted that the San Ysidro SENTRI office is not so Gestapo.

With SENTRI, I was sent to secondary 2 or three times in the first year and then not at all for about 2 years.


Thank you for the info.

So if I notify SENTRI of my change of address to TJ, is that acceptable and legal for me to maintain my SENTRI status and reside in TJ, they just might be suspicious, and ask me why? Or will changing my address to MX actually revoke my SENTRI status?

I'm 24, work at a reputable Broker Dealer firm in Finance in La Jolla, have zero criminal record etc. and simply spend a lot of time down there because my gf resides there.

As well, I definitely will be purchasing additional auto insurance.
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[*] posted on 8-20-2014 at 01:13 PM


Change your address with SENTRI to the Private Mail Box you have on this side. Thousands of gringos have full time or weekend houses from Playas to Ensenada. Probably no one changes their address to the MX residence.

One reason why is my MX address is so long, there is no way to fit it at all in any way into an online form on the US Side. With number, street, suite, fracciomento, delegation, city, state and postal code.

Plus you would never want to receive any kind of mail or official notices there.
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[*] posted on 8-20-2014 at 01:38 PM


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....what kind of contingency plan are you referring to?.....


You could be late to work.:saint:




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[*] posted on 8-20-2014 at 02:38 PM


Got it, I thought you were maybe referring to a backup plan in terms of something else! hah

And thanks, I would change it to a PMB then, thanks for the info everyone!
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[*] posted on 8-20-2014 at 02:55 PM


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And thanks, I would change it to a PMB then, thanks for the info everyone!


Let us know if they accept a mailbox business address for where you live.

[Edited on 8-20-2014 by SFandH]
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[*] posted on 8-20-2014 at 05:06 PM


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Hahaha, sorry about the typo!

And thank you so much, Geek, for the detailed advice!

Should I ever get sent to secondary inspection (I used to before I got SENTRI but havent ever since I got it almost a year ago), what kind of contingency plan are you referring to? What are the consequences with CBP if I were to tell them I live permanantley in TJ?

Were you referring to needing a visa to show Mexican officials I permanantley live in TJ legally if ever questioned? (basically saying that CBP will have no issue with me residing in TJ, only mx officials?)

This is something I just heard offhand so please correct me if it's completely false. But I had heard that there was a "border free zone" in which if you live within a certain proximity to the border, as a US citizen you can legally live in MX without the need of a visa... Would it be easier to simply apply and get a visa to live in TJ?

And thank you for the info on green cards, marriage, etc. Very helpful!


I mean that you need to be able to tell your employer you're going to be an hour late if you get sent to secondary. Or you make like tjsue did before she moved back north and plan to cross incredibly early and spend the days when there's no backup at a coffeeshop or something.

Seriously, I'm going to say this very directly: the United States government, CBP and ICE included, does not give a @#$% where you live. They also don't care whether you're in Mexico legally, because by the time you're in front of them, you're in the U.S. and they're not charged with enforcing Mexican immigration law. Even if you get stopped with a red light going south across the border, they don't ask you why you're coming to Mexico, they just want to make sure you're not importing anything illegal or that could be taxed.

There is no U.S. penalty for living in Tijuana other than the occasional horrible drive, even with SENTRI. Thousands do it. They're not going to ask you what was so bad about the U.S. that you moved to Mexico, because they just. simply. don't. care.

[Edited on 8-21-2014 by dasubergeek]
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[*] posted on 8-20-2014 at 05:10 PM


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I know with allstate insurance I'm covered as long as i'm within 100 miles of the border, so hopefully I won't have any issues.


You really want to make sure that's true before you live in Mexico. Allstate needs to have sent you a completely different set of papers with coverage assigned to a company with a headquarters in Mexico.

If you get in an accident and hand over your Allstate card they will just hand the U.S. insurance papers back to you and you will be in jail while you pony up the money. Not a single U.S. insurer is licensed to write coverage in Mexico. I suggest BajaBound (the link underneath the BajaNomad banner) for an actual Mexican insurance policy. Sanborns is okay too.
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[*] posted on 8-20-2014 at 05:19 PM


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I apologize if these questions are rather ignorant, I did some searching and found some answers, but was in hope someone here could maybe provide me with some concrete answers.

These are good questions to raise on VisaJourney.com under 'Forums' - 'Mexico'.




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[*] posted on 8-20-2014 at 05:20 PM


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I know with allstate insurance I'm covered as long as i'm within 100 miles of the border, so hopefully I won't have any issues.


You really want to make sure that's true before you live in Mexico. Allstate needs to have sent you a completely different set of papers with coverage assigned to a company with a headquarters in Mexico.

If you get in an accident and hand over your Allstate card they will just hand the U.S. insurance papers back to you and you will be in jail while you pony up the money. Not a single U.S. insurer is licensed to write coverage in Mexico. I suggest BajaBound (the link underneath the BajaNomad banner) for an actual Mexican insurance policy. Sanborns is okay too.


he is so right.... they do not recognize ANY U.S. carrier's insurance (even though yours extends liabilty and/or comp & collision a ways south)
Get a liability-only Mexican policy and make sure it has "legal" included. Make sure the Mex policy has the NEW larger laibility coverages

So you will stay out of jail and then Allstate can handle the physical damage to your vehicle
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[*] posted on 8-20-2014 at 06:29 PM


I used to leave at 3:30am before I had my Sentri, and after I got it, I was able to leave around 6. But even with a Sentri, there can be a backup, and you never know when you're going to be sent to secondary. Once you're in secondary, you're stuck, you can't go anywhere until they get to you, and that can take anywhere from 1 hour or more.

Just keep that in mind when you leave for work, and don't expect to "just zip" over the border in no time flat. You never know what's going to happen.
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[*] posted on 8-20-2014 at 06:33 PM


xlnt advice sue!
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[*] posted on 8-20-2014 at 06:35 PM


A bit off course, but,

Have the Americans finished the construction yet?

This is taking longer than the Panama canal did 100 years ago.
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[*] posted on 8-20-2014 at 09:21 PM


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I used to leave at 3:30am before I had my Sentri, and after I got it, I was able to leave around 6. But even with a Sentri, there can be a backup, and you never know when you're going to be sent to secondary. Once you're in secondary, you're stuck, you can't go anywhere until they get to you, and that can take anywhere from 1 hour or more.

Just keep that in mind when you leave for work, and don't expect to "just zip" over the border in no time flat. You never know what's going to happen.


The voice of wisdom right here. Otay is sometimes faster (especially if you're starting in Chapultepec, you fancy fresa you, hahaha) but all it takes is one stupid moran mouthing off to the inspector in the SENTRI line and you're all hosed.

I guess what I'm saying is that if you have the kind of job where you need to punch in at 0830 on the nose, you need to assume you're going to take two hours to get there.
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[*] posted on 8-21-2014 at 09:09 AM


Also keep in mind, that the line that you're in may have a Sentri officer that decides to walk around vehicles in the line, have the driver open all the doors to look inside, plus go around them and knock on the sides.

This happened to me numerous times. I worked swing shifts, but had to leave way earlier than the time that I had to be at work. I wasted a lot of time while I was waiting to go to work.

Moving back, I went through the Sentri lines each time with a loaded van, and was only stopped once.

It all depends on who you get. You may get a "gung ho" newbie officer, or one who's been there for a while, and doesn't care.

You never know.
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[*] posted on 8-21-2014 at 09:47 AM


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And thanks, I would change it to a PMB then, thanks for the info everyone!


Let us know if they accept a mailbox business address for where you live.

[Edited on 8-20-2014 by SFandH]


Be careful! lIf SENTRI decides you lied to them, it is a lifelong revocation. Check to see if it is legal to use a PO box address as your residence, I don't think it is. I'm only concerned about your protection.

Before you do or say anything to SENTRI, I advise you to research whether your response is honest. Do to the fact that SENTRI can and will revoke your SENTRI if they see you lied or did not revile the true situation. With today's data bases, it might be possible for CBP to check if your new address is a commercial or residential address.

Is the address you have on file still a usable address? If you can continue to use the address, maybe you could just leave it alone.

Or tell the truth and give your new Tijuana address.

Just do your homework and thinking before you tell them something that may not hold water. Think about it, they have heard it all before...over and over and it will be easy for them to spot a hole in your answers.

I have a local PO box address listed with SENTRI for my mailing address but they don't ever mail anything there.

SENTRI is not your friend...they don't let small things slide!
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[*] posted on 8-21-2014 at 10:08 AM


I have never had a problem in dealing with SENTRI, however I strongly suggest you use your TJ residence address and your PMB as your mailing address.

Don't fudge anything on your SENTRI application......list EVERYTHING and then explain when you go to the interview.......also make a copy of your application and take it with you to the interview

When we applied we told them we have a house in the US, "snowbird" in Baja and have a PO box mailing address....listed two cars, no problems with anything.

The big thing is the CBP person you get for the interview. Be polite, answer all the questions. Hopefully you will get an interview with a chatty CBP person with a sense of humor.....we did and it worked out great




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[*] posted on 8-21-2014 at 10:13 AM


uh, he already has a SENTRI and has been crossing 3-4 times a week.......
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[*] posted on 8-21-2014 at 10:16 AM
In that case


Go on-line and access your GOES account and change your residence address and add a mailing address for you and your vehicle(s)


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uh, he already has a SENTRI and has been crossing 3-4 times a week.......




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[*] posted on 8-21-2014 at 10:38 AM


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Go on-line and access your GOES account and change your residence address and add a mailing address for you and your vehicle(s)


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uh, he already has a SENTRI and has been crossing 3-4 times a week.......


That's the starting point. Then you will select an appointment date to go in and explain and document your new residence address change. As I did a couple months ago.

I did change my mailing address online on the GOES site.

[Edited on 8-21-2014 by bajalearner]
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[*] posted on 8-21-2014 at 11:11 AM


And how did the appointment go regarding changing your residence address? What was your situation, no issues?
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