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woody with a view
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mine's a 2.
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Pompano
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Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
mine's a 2. |
Then it really doesn't matter that much, Woody.
Best not to raise the prop end above the powerhead. You rest the big end on something because you don't want water to flow up the exhaust pipe back
into the engine.
Probably rest it prop side down - on the cavitation plate at the bottom of the shaft, protecting the prop, and the back of the gas tank. Not
complicated with 2-strokes...easy peasy.
edit...tried to use the word, 'Dibble'. Hmm...?
[Edited on 11-23-2014 by Pompano]
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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bajabuddha
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4 STROKES are all different. My Yamaha is the opposite side that my Honda was; they both leaked a little on long journeys. Pompano's right on (as
always), you don't want the prop shaft higher than the motor head. I use a couple of boat cushions to raise the head up. I run it behind my
passenger seat in my Ford King Cab, and it barely fits; 4-strokes are deeper in length also. And, run the carb dry too. That should be done even if
the motor is going to sit more than a couple of days. They have their foibles, but man, what great mileage and less stink/noise.
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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Floatflyer
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Here is another $.02 worth of opinion. Taking it off is the safest AND help is readily available virtually any place you are going to be.
With that said, I use a "transom saver" on my 19 ft Bayrunner. This is clamped directly to the trailer frame and then onto the lower unit of the
engine. This directs any up and down motion of the engine to the trailer frame and NOT to the transom.
You should have a great time. FF
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Martyman
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My 4 stroke 15 caballos Honda has little legs to use when you place it on the "right" side. Also I've never drained the oil when travelling on it's
side. You might (or might not) lose a few drops but don't hassle draining the oil.
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JakeinVegas
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I towed my 13' Avon inflatable with a 4-stroke 20hp Honda down to Bahia Concepcion in June. I drained the oil from the engine and brought new oil with
me. We had the boat inflated on a trailer and loaded the motor onto the aluminum floor with a foam pad underneath and a movers blanket on top. We then
piled light gear on top of it until it was no longer visible. We then secured the whole mess with a cargo net. This ensured that I arrived with an
intact transom and motor. I also wasn't advertising my brand new outboard to anyone with sticky fingers along the way. I hit a few topes (giant speed
bumps) on the way down much harder than I wanted to and was glad that the motor was safely over the axle of the trailer and not on the transom.
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cortezpirasea
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Transport the motor on an old used tire. Used tire because it won't be as rigid as one with a lot of tread. Lower tire pressure on trailer and
vehicle. There is always someone to help you in Baja.
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woody with a view
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isn't it fun the first time you see the sign that says, TOPE?
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JakeinVegas
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Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
isn't it fun the first time you see the sign that says, TOPE?
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Sign? It seems that 50% of them are unmarked and unpainted. I found it easier to just look for bumpers and other car parts on the side of the road
that had fallen off of previous victims cars.
[Edited on 12-1-2014 by JakeinVegas]
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Skipjack Joe
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Quote: | Originally posted by JakeinVegas
Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
isn't it fun the first time you see the sign that says, TOPE?
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Sign? It seems that 50% of them are unmarked and unpainted. I found it easier to just look for bumpers and other assorted car parts on the side of the
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That's the remarkable thing about them. They are all painted yellow for you to see. But sometimes the paint is old and worn off and those topes can't
be seen. At other places there is a yellow stripe on the road which, when approached, reveal no bump at all. I feel tricked when I encounter those.
It's good to have a young pair of eyes next to you who lets you know the real from the fake. If the sun's in your eyes then anyone can miss them. I
think the expats know them all by heart and just slow down where necessary.
I also wanted to point out that although the road to BOLA is paved from the border you are unlikely to be riding on it the whole way. There is
construction going on somewhere virtually every time you drive down. Those sections can be 100 yds or 3-4 miles and very chewed up. These are places
of traffic congestion with drivers behind that have little patience for someone who slowly navigates around each bump.
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Skipjack Joe
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Topes and Mimicry
Painted stripes are akin to Batesian mimicry. In the natural world one species will evolve to resemble another (usually a poisonous one) to acquire
it's benefits. The mimicry is successful if the model species is present in great numbers. If the model is rare then the birds eat the bugs with a
rare one giving it indigestion. But if the toxic bug is common then the birds stop feeding entirely and the mimic is safe.
Baja stripes are similar. They work because the real topes are frequent and dangerous. The Mexicans understand this fundamental law of nature and have
painted just enough stripes to get away with.
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Pompano
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I like the ones that are worn down to fit your wheel base ...and don't send every dish and glass in the cupboards into space.
Or threw the refrigerator door open. Have you ever cleaned up after a catsup calamity?
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woody with a view
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mid 80's Pto Esondido, Oaxaca and 4 of us in a rented VW bug taking a drive down the coast when, all of a sudden (that happens at 50+ mph) an new sign
appears. "Look, up ahead, it's sign post" which says, TOPE. quick look at the passenger like WTF is a..... LOOK OUT!!! it seems like it was 2 feet
tall, to this day.
I still marvel at the toughness of them VW's. didn't even lose a hubcap!
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bajabuddha
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Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
...... I think the expats know them all by heart and just slow down where necessary.
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YABUT, even us ex-spurts have bounced HARD on a few... don't deny it neither...
I think the answer's solv-ed.... ya spends yer money and ya takes yer chances. I knew a guy who hit one too many topes a little too fast, cost him
only a new battery on his boat. Back end is a sling-shot; a LITTLE too fast is a LOT lost.
The choice is to the owner.
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
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.....TMI.....
Don't believe everything you think....
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chavycha
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As someone who just tweaked a back thinking "that outboard is plenty light to lift" I can understand why you're wanting to trailer the boat with it
on.
That said, I'm going to put mine inside the boat for the trip down and back when we go in a few weeks. Don't want it running off in the middle of
the night.
If you can lay it at even a 30 degree angle (think powerhead on the seat and prop on the floor) you won't have much trouble with oil. I used to do
that with a 6hp Suzuki 4 stroke all the time, and that was trailering it long distances over some nasty stuff, way worse than Hwy 1.
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chavycha
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Also, if you want, I bought a frame-mount adjustable transom saver from Cabelas last week to try out. It's not quite right for my application, but
I'd be happy to send it to you for the price of shipping.
Drop me a note at scott@chavycha.com if you're interested.
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Is that length or width?
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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woody with a view
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both!
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Combined?
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