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willardguy
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Quote: Originally posted by theotherone  | One of the worst examples of a pure rip-off was about 5 years ago at Rosamar Restaurant in Puerto Nuevo, BC. While I was having lunch with a group of
friends, I notice a small conversation, in Spanish, between some musicians and mexican-american patrons regarding the final price of 10 songs. The
musicians wanted $100 US dollars for 10 songs, but the patrons got upset & said that they were charging them like a bunch of "gringos". After a
protracted conversation, they were able to negotiate the price to about $50 US dollars for 10 songs.
Bottom line, in order to avoid confusion and/or disappointment, the price per song should be negotiated before services are rendered. Furthermore, be
specific about the exact number of songs you want to hear and/or are willing to pay for.
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$100! was selena gomez in the band?
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"Guantanamera" once cost me 100 dollars including a tip in Acapulco. I was young, foolish, and wanted to impress my date with my knowledge of
mariachi songs. So when the group of players came by our sidewalk table and asked if we liked their music...I didn't know to add that I only wanted
that ONE song. They sang merrily away for about an hour before I got clued in by our waiter, who thereby earned his extra tip, too.
I have also scratched my head at an auction...once. 
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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Most of those so called Mariachis aren't very good and actually can be annoying enough to ruin a nice quiet dinner. IMO they belong in saloons and not
in dinner houses.
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nothing like a good juke box
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Bajaboy
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nothing like a good juke box
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sancho
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Posted here yrs.back, was a description of what big Hotel maids
at the Cape make, approx. $5 dolls a day, they work under
some sham 30 day contract so the Hotel doesn't have to pay
benefits,etc. The Gringo' s enjoying umbrella drinks poolside
pay more for 1 drink than the maids make in a day
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DENNIS
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The Mariachis I've always seen and heard, charge by the song and they aren't cheap.
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let's see, a mariachi band can have 3-4 guys at $5 a song you guys are a bunch of squeaky tight wads. so tight that as your hand enters your pocket
you squeak!
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One of the problems with tipping in Mexico is the expectations in some places. We tend to tip on the high side for people for whom we know tips are a
big part of their income --- we understand that. And even in the states, when my 96 year old mother-in-law take us out to eat, we follow behind her
and leave a real tip --- she thinks a $5.00 tip for three people eating is a BIG tip. :-
But, on the other side, in Baja sometimes it gets carried away when some people think they should be tipped for everything --- things that others do
just to be friendly or neighborly. They invite you to dinner and expect you to pay for the dinner, or at least leave a big tip. They help interpret
a conversation for you and expect a tip. They offer the use of their wifi and expect a tip --- on and on. So at times, one does not know if someone
is being a friend or when they are expected to tip.
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micah202
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho |
They want you to pay for their their dinner?!
Traditional Mexican custom is if someone invites another out to eat, the inviting party pays the bill. Unless somehow indicated otherwise...
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I have trouble understanding how,when,why some think a friendly invitation can become a business contract without putting words to it.
....I once took a friendly invitation to go fishing with some locals at face value....boy were they disappointed when I offered them a few bucks as a
ride-a-long 
...if I had initiated the outing,I would have known to pay for boat,gas,wear,time and tip
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DianaT
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho |
They want you to pay for their their dinner?!
Traditional Mexican custom is if someone invites another out to eat, the inviting party pays the bill. Unless somehow indicated otherwise...
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We have seen it where people are invited to the home for dinner and then expected to pay, or at least leave a big tip to pay for the meal. And they
are not up front about it --- somehow, the invitee is just supposed to know.
Our experience is that this is the exception, but it happens.
[Edited on 12-31-2014 by DianaT]
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willardguy
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that the strangest thing i've ever heard!
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DianaT
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That is what we thought! It was a real surprise
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theotherone
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If that ever happened to me in Mexico, then I would simply just ask the host to sent me a bill....then I would just merely "think" about paying it.
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DENNIS
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Pay for a dinner invitation? Absurd. It sounds like a "rich gringo tax." It would be an insult if I even inquired of this in casual conversation
with my friends.
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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| Quote: Originally posted by DianaT |
We have seen it where people are invited to the home for dinner and then expected to pay, or at least leave a big tip to pay for the meal. And they
are not up front about it --- somehow, the invitee is just supposed to know. |
Yikes. My reply in that scenario would start with "No soy un cajero automatico." and end with some words that can't be printed here.
I think it's also important to distinguish between tourist-centric establishments/areas, and the 'rest' of Baja.
Sure, if you go on a guided fishing trip in Loreto, or out to eat at a nice place in La Paz, or ask a hotel concierge in Cabo for a favor, there's
going to be an expectation of a tip. The service oftentimes approaches the line of a little 'too much' - that kind of over-the-top pandering that
just feels like someone's trying too hard. Some people love the feeling of being catered to and fawned over. I don't.
Now, on the other hand, if you go to a little roadside cafe in, say, Vicente Guerrero or Santa Rosalia, you're more than likely going to receive the
exact same service as the local truck driver who's grabbing a couple of tacos to go. You're treated as a person and a customer, not as a tourist or
Mr. Moneybags. Frankly, that's the way it *should* be, and that's the way it's felt to me in most establishments in Baja.
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You nailed it, Chevycha!!!
Barry
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micah202
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| Quote: Originally posted by chavycha | | Quote: Originally posted by DianaT |
We have seen it where people are invited to the home for dinner and then expected to pay, or at least leave a big tip to pay for the meal. And they
are not up front about it --- somehow, the invitee is just supposed to know. |
Yikes. My reply in that scenario would start with "No soy un cajero automatico." and end with some words that can't be printed here.
I think it's also important to distinguish between tourist-centric establishments/areas, and the 'rest' of Baja.
Sure, if you go on a guided fishing trip in Loreto, or out to eat at a nice place in La Paz, or ask a hotel concierge in Cabo for a favor, there's
going to be an expectation of a tip. The service oftentimes approaches the line of a little 'too much' - that kind of over-the-top pandering that
just feels like someone's trying too hard. Some people love the feeling of being catered to and fawned over. I don't.
Now, on the other hand, if you go to a little roadside cafe in, say, Vicente Guerrero or Santa Rosalia, you're more than likely going to receive the
exact same service as the local truck driver who's grabbing a couple of tacos to go. You're treated as a person and a customer, not as a tourist or
Mr. Moneybags. Frankly, that's the way it *should* be, and that's the way it's felt to me in most establishments in Baja.
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.........Chavaya,,,what would you consider appropriate tipping in the circumstance you describe?
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I once invited a goat to dinner and he paid ... with his life!
Bob Durrell
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DENNIS
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I can't help but think tipping should be governed by many more variables than a percentage formula.
"Get what you pay for, and pay for what you get,"
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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