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[*] posted on 2-4-2015 at 06:22 PM


Quote: Originally posted by rufflife  
Ah, thanks for the heads-up! I have not been visiting Nomad lately and must have missed the part about not being able to paste. I shall sit down and type out the info...

Thank you!


My pleasure... it was in the Nomad Issues forum.

You can try pasting again, but remove all " and ' as well as the other things I mentioned.




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[*] posted on 2-4-2015 at 06:34 PM


Here is a detailed report of hazards/potential hazards on the road between the town of San Ignacio and San Ignacio Lagoon. The road is quite drive-able (even in a compact car), but one should keep their eyes on the road.

There is also a rumor that a road crew has been hired to clear the debris from the road... In the meantime, and in case that does not become a reality, here is the road report.

The numbers reflect the mileage from the start of the road to the lagoon. If you reset your trip miles at the "KM Zero" sign - just as the road to the lagoon truly begins - you should be able to be aware ahead of when these obstacles will appear.

7 - Right lane has a bit of slide debris leftover from Odile
9.8 - Pile of dirt (hard to see) acts like big speed bump. Most vehicles use the left lane where the bump is a bit lower
10.9 - BIG dirt pile! Right lane is closed. Have to use left lane to go around. Paved road is a bit broken up after this pile
16.3 - Right lane debris (sand & gravel) just around the bend
16.4 - Right lane debris (sand & gravel) have to use left lane
16.9 - Left lane blocked due to drifting sand
17.7 - There is a turnoff to the left. Bypass turn and keep going straight
19.6 - Left lane blocked with sand
24.5 - Sharp left turn (not really any reflective signs. At night, or if going too fast, there is the potential to miss the turn)
24.5 to 25.2 - Debris (sand & gravel) on both sides of road, so people drive down center
25.2 - Left lane around this curve has gravel in it, so people take the curve in the right lane
25.9 - Right lane blocked with sand drifts
28.7 - Pavement ends
28.8 - Dirt road goes down to 1 lane
29.5 - Dirt road goes back to 2 lanes
29.9 - Dirt road goes mostly back to 1 lane (there are a few turnouts for passing) until mile 31.8
31.8 - Beginning of washboard road
33.3 - Left turn (there is a sign) to go toward Kuyima, Baja Ecotours, Antonio's (whale watching camps) and points beyond. If you keep going straight on the road you have been traveling, you will come to Pachico's Eco Tours on the right, a little over a mile past this sign for the other camps.
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[*] posted on 2-4-2015 at 07:27 PM
Mil Gracias for the report RuffLife!


I appreciate your detailed Information!

I'm organizing a caravan to various lagoons for Semana Santa, with a group of whale watching newbies. Wanted to know status of road for their benefit, as we discuss which cars to drive, approx schedule, etc.

Compared to the pre-pavement lagoon road, this new road is a fast and relatively easy drive. It is a real benefit to the lagoon community- both for delivering paying tourists/visitors TO the lagoon, and getting their catch OUT.

(I understand why the east coast towns would not welcome a west coast paved road- but it would be a great benefit for those of us who prefer the cooler Pacific side.)

[Edited on 2-5-2015 by Whale-ista]




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[*] posted on 2-4-2015 at 08:53 PM


One thing for sure, they will keep that road passable for the tour vans from town.

The pre-pavement road always varied in condition and pavement is good for the locals.

Can't wait to go out there again!
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[*] posted on 2-4-2015 at 08:56 PM


Whale-ista, If some are not comfortable driving out in there own autos out to the lagoon. you can make arrangements in town to take a van out and back, they charge about $100.00 usd for the load. Kuyima can take maybe 10 or so in the van.



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[*] posted on 2-4-2015 at 09:56 PM


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Whale-ista, If some are not comfortable driving out in there own autos out to the lagoon. you can make arrangements in town to take a van out and back, they charge about $100.00 usd for the load. Kuyima can take maybe 10 or so in the van.


Thanks- good suggestion. I'll keep that in mind. I use their campground at lagoon, have not used shuttle service before.

Do you know if they have a safe/secure parking area for cars left in town if people choose to stay overnight at campground, or is for day trips only?




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[*] posted on 2-5-2015 at 07:53 AM


The road is passable and people are making the drive in compact vehicles and RVs at this time. There are just some sections where slowing down is a really good idea. Most of the mess is on the paved section of road....

Even if the road crew doesn't get some of the sand/gravel/debris moved (and, I think it will happen) - The current state of the road is still a heck of a lot easier to drive than it used to be!

Not sure of any secured parking in San Ignacio if you should opt to spend the night out at the lagoon. If you do decide you want to spend the night out at the lagoon, you might be paying 2x for the van. Not sure how Kuyima prices their taxi shuttle service (I have heard closer to $120.00 USD for pricing per van load), but if you come back a different day, you might have to pay again.

Dago Fischer also offers shuttle service to the lagoon, so that is also an option if Kuyima happens to be full around Semana Santa.

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[*] posted on 2-5-2015 at 10:17 AM


Does this mean that the road to the Lagoona is clear, and that to go to San Juanico it is no longer necessary to take the detour to the high road that obliges you to cross through high water and destroy the underside of your car :D
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[*] posted on 2-6-2015 at 05:51 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by Bajahowodd  
Isn't this supposed to be the first leg of a paved highway down the West side to Ciudad Insurgentes?


That was the long range plan, but reported to be halted by businesses in Santa Rosalia, Mulege, and Loreto since all traffic going south of those places would stay on the Pacific side of the mountains and avoid thiose towns along with the two big grades, and a hundred extra miles of driving.


That does not surprise me. Saving a bunch of miles and a bunch of time versus businesses on the Sea Of Cortez side, I guess they win. Not that I should complain too much because of so many great hotels and restaurants in those towns.
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[*] posted on 2-6-2015 at 07:08 PM


Yes, they have a place to park your autos, is a locked up place out by rice and beans. I have not checked on the price of the van in two years, check their web site. We drove a Honda van to S. I. and took the van out and back with our camping gear worked great.



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Quote: Originally posted by MMc  
Whale-ista, If some are not comfortable driving out in there own autos out to the lagoon. you can make arrangements in town to take a van out and back, they charge about $100.00 usd for the load. Kuyima can take maybe 10 or so in the van.


Thanks- good suggestion. I'll keep that in mind. I use their campground at lagoon, have not used shuttle service before.

Do you know if they have a safe/secure parking area for cars left in town if people choose to stay overnight at campground, or is for day trips only?




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[*] posted on 2-8-2015 at 09:48 AM
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The road crew was apparently hired and seems to have begun clearing some of the obstacles from the road to San Ignacio Lagoon.

Mile 9.8 - Pile of dirt that acted as a speed bump has been removed

Mile 10.9 - The REALLY big pile of dirt has also been removed. Please watch for the broken section of pavement that is just beyond where this pile was located.

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[*] posted on 2-8-2015 at 10:32 AM


Thanks!

Quote: Originally posted by rufflife  
The road crew was apparently hired and seems to have begun clearing some of the obstacles from the road to San Ignacio Lagoon.

Mile 9.8 - Pile of dirt that acted as a speed bump has been removed

Mile 10.9 - The REALLY big pile of dirt has also been removed. Please watch for the broken section of pavement that is just beyond where this pile was located.





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[*] posted on 2-8-2015 at 11:31 AM


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