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[*] posted on 4-1-2015 at 02:49 PM


Can the end of hwy 5 be driven at night?
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[*] posted on 4-1-2015 at 02:52 PM


is it possible to drive the end of hwy 5 to hwy 1 at night
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[*] posted on 4-1-2015 at 03:01 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Zola  
is it possible to drive the end of hwy 5 to hwy 1 at night


yup! gets real spooky out there though!:o
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[*] posted on 4-1-2015 at 03:35 PM


unless Los Pinos has fixed them in the last week there are places where the road drops off on the sides and some pretty bad holes in the center (its a mud road bed that the rains have fun with). You would have to go very slow at night.
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[*] posted on 4-1-2015 at 03:37 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Zola  
is it possible to drive the end of hwy 5 to hwy 1 at night


Anything is possible but if you aren't familiar with it there are a lot of side roads that head off the main track. When it's light the main track is pretty easy to see but when it's dark :no: It's pretty easy to get somewhere you don't want to be.




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[*] posted on 4-1-2015 at 03:39 PM


Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
Last report since I went through a couple of weeks ago, said the rocky pass is much worse. how was it for you?

I haven't driven it but it cant be any worse than this:




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[*] posted on 4-1-2015 at 04:28 PM
Yes!!


Quote: Originally posted by Zola  
Can the end of hwy 5 be driven at night?


We drove a portion after dark with our boat guy tagging along.
I cannot imagine how you could get lost, it is a well defined road.
As to the mud middles and the big dropoffs.....????
It rained really hard the night before we crossed and it was absolutely dry.
Dropoffs are along every road in Baja, nothing unusual or scary.
And, the road is wide enough that meeting semis should not be a problem.

I think some folks here have seriously over reacted to driving on a non-paved surface... just my observation.
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[*] posted on 4-1-2015 at 04:35 PM


not big drop offs but portions washed out. Maybe in a Tacoma :biggrin:, you can pass. But with a full size truck there are places on the "cuesta", the grade through the pass where we could not pass and I had to back up to a wide spot. If that is seriously over reacting, so be it.
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[*] posted on 4-1-2015 at 04:39 PM


Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
not big drop offs but portions washed out. Maybe in a Tacoma :biggrin:, you can pass. But with a full size truck there are places on the "cuesta", the grade through the pass where we could not pass and I had to back up to a wide spot. If that is seriously over reacting, so be it.


A-trac offers safe, secure passing in every situation! just push the button, ease the seat back,crack a coldie and let A-trac do the work! :lol:
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[*] posted on 4-1-2015 at 04:48 PM


A-TRAC is a LOW RANGE 4WD traction system, standard on the Off Road TRD Tacoma and other Toyota and Lexus vehicles. It is comparable to the traction obtained with front and rear locking differentials, but without the steering difficulty that comes from locked differentials.

The point is, in Low Range, you are not driving at a passing speed or on any graded road for that matter.

You would be more correct in speaking about TRAC which is the limited slip system and VSC (vehicle stability control) that works in 2WD and 4WD HIGH RANGE (ie. at highway speed).




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[*] posted on 4-1-2015 at 07:24 PM


R U guys kidding me? This is getting ridiculous...... Jajajajajajajajajaja!!!!!!!!!
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[*] posted on 4-1-2015 at 08:26 PM
What is difficult from some is easy for others


Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
not big drop offs but portions washed out. Maybe in a Tacoma :biggrin:, you can pass. But with a full size truck there are places on the "cuesta", the grade through the pass where we could not pass and I had to back up to a wide spot. If that is seriously over reacting, so be it.


How do you generalize the road conditions for all types of drivers?
For me, this unpaved portion of 5 is a very easy stretch of road.
I drove much of it in my "full sized" F-150 at 50- 60 mph.
The guys with the boat in our group likely never topped 15 mph and much of the time much slower.
By "Baja Standards" this is a very benign piece of territory IMO.
If you are concerned, just take it easy, it will all work out.
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[*] posted on 4-1-2015 at 08:43 PM


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Agreed.
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[*] posted on 4-1-2015 at 08:49 PM


Quote: Originally posted by thebajarunner  

How do you generalize the road conditions for all types of drivers?
For me, this unpaved portion of 5 is a very easy stretch of road.
I drove much of it in my "full sized" F-150 at 50- 60 mph.
The guys with the boat in our group likely never topped 15 mph and much of the time much slower.
By "Baja Standards" this is a very benign piece of territory IMO.
If you are concerned, just take it easy, it will all work out.


Thank you! What you said! Bravo!




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[*] posted on 4-1-2015 at 08:52 PM


Quote: Originally posted by thebajarunner  
Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
not big drop offs but portions washed out. Maybe in a Tacoma :biggrin:, you can pass. But with a full size truck there are places on the "cuesta", the grade through the pass where we could not pass and I had to back up to a wide spot. If that is seriously over reacting, so be it.


How do you generalize the road conditions for all types of drivers?
For me, this unpaved portion of 5 is a very easy stretch of road.
I drove much of it in my "full sized" F-150 at 50- 60 mph.
The guys with the boat in our group likely never topped 15 mph and much of the time much slower.
By "Baja Standards" this is a very benign piece of territory IMO.
If you are concerned, just take it easy, it will all work out.


Because, maybe you have forgotten, but someone who obviously never driven the road before asked if it was OK at night. If they were as highly qualifyed as you, they would not have even asked...Geeze...speed on. Hopefully not one of the times I am on the road going the other way.
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[*] posted on 4-1-2015 at 09:21 PM


I drove in to Gonzaga once from the dry lake through the canyon at night, the middle of the night, back in the early 70s. We did it in an old Jeep Wagoneer. Slow going but no real problems UNTIL-
we met a Military road block in the canyon somewhere (where is lost in the annals of history and memory).
They asked a coupe of questions (my companions were fluent in Spanish) and away we went.
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[*] posted on 4-2-2015 at 11:26 PM


We drove through in the black of night. It was a peaceful, enjoyable ride. We did come across tractor-trailer trucks, which traveled in small convoys and had personal graders as escorts. It is a fun drive if you have a serious off-road vehicle (we have an FJ Cruiser). I think it is not a wise choice for regular 2-wheel drive cars or anyone who has a trailer. There will be too much wear and tear on the vehicle at certain points.

But I give fair warning: Now that I have driven Mexico 5, I have a strong motive for hoping that it remains exactly the way it is :) What you miss are some of the great places to see and surf in BC Norte, but what you gain is not becoming utterly frazzled by making the drive from San Miguel to San Quentin. But you also miss the amazing drive from El Rosario to Catavina, which is a magical stretch of road, along which lies the magical pueblo of El Rosario and the stunning mountain drive to the southeast.

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[*] posted on 4-3-2015 at 01:44 AM


As I have said in the past, Hiway? 5 is no worse than most of the Baja back roads. I suspect that the people who find it "bad" havnt spent much time in Baja....Get LOST? HOW? Geezo....



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[*] posted on 4-3-2015 at 01:52 PM


There are two schools of thought for driving the 23 miles of dirt/rock:

15-20 MPH with no or little air-down on the tires
45 MPH+ with about 18 PSI in the tires

My personal philosophy is the second one.




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[*] posted on 4-3-2015 at 05:53 PM


A total of three.



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