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sancho
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There are some memorable quotes here, 'arrested development,
Baja variety Neanderthal, Hippie brainwashing, lower standard
of living liberating', I have enjoyed reading this thread, good
insight
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rts551
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Too bad there s not a way to get "the other side of the story". Those who could not take it and moved somewhere else. Asking the question here is
kinda like bringing up the question of crime in Mexico.
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Gulliver
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The couple we bought from here claimed to be moving back to the states full time due to concerns over access to specialized health care. They were 85
and 75. I suspect that repeated cleanups and serious damage from the flooding may have had more to do with it. There have been quite a few in Mulege
whom have found the tremendous increase in flood frequency to be too much to deal with.
We have made out peace with it all but ask me again after a few more such events.
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Alm
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Quote: Originally posted by Cliffy  | Interesting thread
It seems to say that what some (most) NOB would call moving into a much lower standard of living, to those who have done it, refer to to it as a very
liberating experience. |
It's not that simple.
Less choice and lower quality of almost everything is one part. Living with fewer rules and restrictions is another. Being able to live better on less
money is another aspect yet.
This latter part is complicated as well, some things here cost more, so if you "have" to have it, then you're spending same much as NOB, or have to
deal with pains of pony express because many items are not available locally. Doesn't have to be high-ticket items, even somebody living in a small
shack on a leased land may need medications or maintain a certain diet.
Whale-ista opened a too broad topic, a lot depends on who is immigrating, not just "then" vs "now".
[Edited on 4-22-2015 by Alm]
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Cliffy
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Unfortunately I know just enough Spanish to get myself into trouble.
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Gulliver
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I have gotten in sooo much trouble trying to ask about eggs in the market. And asking about chilies is fraught with possibilities.
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sancho
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One does early on, learn the old standby huevos/chile humor.
A Mex aquaintence of mine here in Ca, was telling me of his Mex
hometown of Guanajuato and their famous Museum of Mommies, after repeating himself, getting a bit worked up
that I couldn't grasp the Mommie part, I realized he was
referring to the somewhat famous Museum of Mummies
in Guanajuato
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Whale-ista
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So, to summarize: it seems the challenges/adjustments include:
- access to specialized healthcare
- language acquisition (or lack thereof)
- cultural differences
- access to certain replacement parts (until you get to know the locals)
- limited food/ingredient choices
- ...and no reliable shipping/delivery/mail service to help w/2 previous points
Benefits:
- inexpensive, lower cost of living
- great weather, fishing, beaches
- fewer people/less traffic
- fewer regulations/restrictions
- slower pace of life/less stress
And I would add:
- incredible natural beauty on land, sea & air
Thanks to all who commented. I appreciate the feedback.
Not looking for "right/wrong" answers- just curious about people's experiences while living as "transplants" in Baja.
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
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MulegeAL
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Whale-i,
Park all the new brainbound stuff you just learned for a minute...
Baja is a decision of the heart.
That's all you really need to figure out if it's the right place for you. The rest is easy, or irrelevant.
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vandenberg
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| Quote: Originally posted by MulegeAL | Whale-i,
Park all the new brainbound stuff you just learned for a minute...
Baja is a decision of the heart.
That's all you really need to figure out if it's the right place for you. The rest is easy, or irrelevant. |
Right place for this old codger.
Never a minute of regret!!
  
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Whale-ista
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Willy-
Did you finish the other post? I'm interested in reading your experiences.
| Quote: Originally posted by willyAirstream | I am working on a full post for this thread, but have to jump in now.
Motorcycle tires and parts are very easy to get here. You are new here, but once you get to know the locals, you can find everything you need. Tires
are available at the big tire store in Loreto via email and Baja Pak, 3 days. Loius at the tire shop by light house road can also get most tires for
cars, motos and off road. Danni can get tires from Ensenadia, 4 days. And FB classifieds are another great source. Contrary to rumors, tires are
cheaper here than usa places such as tire rack. I buy tires and tubes often. |
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
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willyAirstream
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Nudge acknowledged 
I will get back to it.
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Alm
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Correction: Access to any healthcare.
In places like Mulege, BA, BOLA, a real hospital is many-many hours away. A decent pharmacy is usually also not around the corner.
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Whale-ista
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thanks- look forward to it
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
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Alan
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"Manana - The busiest day in Mexico! Manana does NOT mean tomorrow. It only means Not Today!
In Memory of E-57
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Also remember. Responses are very one sided. Not many, if any, from someone who came. did not like it, and left.
I would also add, absence from family, especially grandkids (for those of us that have them).
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Alm
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| Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | | Also remember. Responses are very one sided. Not many, if any, from someone who came. did not like it, and left. |
True. This would be an academic debate though - as you noted, we don't hear from those that are not here, no pun intended.
I guess most of reported "cons" or "challenges" would still be the same, for those who left.
Also, traveling few hundred miles to see a dentist - what an adventure...
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Back then the most difficult thing was convincing my girlfriend to move to Baja with me. Nowadays its convincing my wife not to go back to Canada 
[Edited on 5-2-2015 by durrelllrobert]
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Thanks for chiming in here, Frank!
It's nice to hear from someone on the mainland, because we all assume everyone on this board is about Baja.
Udo
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The only reason North-Central Baja is better for me than Mainland, is dry climate and proximity to sea. On the Mainland it's either this, or that. In
rare places where you can have both, it becomes too touristy and densely populated.
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