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VegasNick
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Wow! Thank you all for your responses.
Mulege was just mentioned as an area that is "must see" by another FJ owner that lives in TJ. If it doesn't really hold any more value of things like
we mentioned so far such as beach views/camping, missions, etc then we may consider turning west towards Guerro Negro after Bay of LA.
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If you do make it to Mulege, be aware that most of the town roads are one way and narrow, making it almost impossible to navigate with a trailer. You
can park on the highway, near the arch, and walk into town for supplies and to see the sex slave market.
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VegasNick
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Quote: Originally posted by Alm  |
Yes, you can make it all in 10 days, with Mulege. The question is - Will it be fun doing it this way.
Cool street market? Baja is a sanitized/americanized version of Mexico. Shopping here isn't an exotic experience.
[Edited on 4-26-2015 by Alm] |
And that is it. I want it to be that experience that makes us want to come back for more!
My wife will disheartened to hear about the shopping.  She is one that likes to
gather all sorts of trinkets. Hopefully we find that "experience" for her.
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So a few questions:
Is Mulege and back possible in ten days or should we cut off at Bay of LA?
It is very possible with not too much driving. Conception Bay (south of Mulege) is on of my favorite places in Baja. Gonzaga Bay is anther with BOLA
in third place.
What is the best place along the way for a cool street market?
San Felipe has the best street market I have been to. That would mean crossing at San Luis or Algodones. Both are easier than Mexicali. San Luis
has a place where you can get tourist permits.
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VegasNick
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| Quote: Originally posted by willyAirstream | | If you do make it to Mulege, be aware that most of the town roads are one way and narrow, making it almost impossible to navigate with a trailer. You
can park on the highway, near the arch, and walk into town for supplies and to see the sex slave market. |
Thanks! It will be great to see where I could be employed if all goes south.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Alm | | Don't know how well their rig will handle those 40 miles dirt road from Gonzaga to Hwy 1 - probably alright when it's dry. |
we have put more dirt miles on that rig that asphalt.  Just came back
from two days in the Mojave. everything from rock crawling to river crossings that camper in tow.
So Hwy 5 down to Gonzaga is all dirt/gravel? Looks like a night there is a must!
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| Quote: Originally posted by VegasNick | | Quote: Originally posted by Alm | | Don't know how well their rig will handle those 40 miles dirt road from Gonzaga to Hwy 1 - probably alright when it's dry. |
we have put more dirt miles on that rig that asphalt. Just came back
from two days in the Mojave. everything from rock crawling to river crossings that camper in tow.
So Hwy 5 down to Gonzaga is all dirt/gravel? Looks like a night there is a must! |
NO... the pavement south is now reached a dozen miles south of Gonzaga/ 10 miles north of Coco's Corner + 13 more to Hwy. 1... total unpaved miles=
23. They are 2WD graded dirt miles... it just had lots of rocks in the bed of the road, and not all smooth and fast. Campers and trailers won't have
fun driving so slow for 23 miles... but I think saving 200 and all the town traffic on the west coast is well worth the slow drive for a couple hours.
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Vn:
Nice rig, you'll have a great time.
Be sure to get insurance and put your trailer on the policy.
The other thing to consider regarding insurance is the minimum liability amount is different for baja and baja sur. mulege is in baja sur.
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| Quote: Originally posted by fandango | Vn:
Nice rig, you'll have a great time.
Be sure to get insurance and put your trailer on the policy.
The other thing to consider regarding insurance is the minimum liability amount is different for baja and baja sur. mulege is in baja sur.
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Important indeed... If your truck is insured (annually or ?) for Mexico, but pulling a trailer is a new deal, you must alter the policy to include
towing for the policy to by valid.
As for the different liability, I sure hope that either Discover Baja or Baja Bound only sells policies that would work in all of NW Mexico! I
wouldn't go cheap, and have the premium plan with legal aid included.
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| Quote: Originally posted by soulpatch | Do the baja trip and then, next time, head down the mainland side.... you would hit some baja style desert and ocean and then you could pop into
Mazatlan or other places on the way down if your wife really wants to experience a tianguis.
I am guessing from Vegas it's a toss up as to which would involve more driving.
They are an experience. |
I have been told the area of Copper Canyon on the mainland is one to be seen for sure.
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K |
NO... the pavement south is now reached a dozen miles south of Gonzaga/ 10 miles north of Coco's Corner + 13 more to Hwy. 1... total unpaved miles=
23. They are 2WD graded dirt miles... it just had lots of rocks in the bed of the road, and not all smooth and fast. Campers and trailers won't have
fun driving so slow for 23 miles... but I think saving 200 and all the town traffic on the west coast is well worth the slow drive for a couple hours.
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Sign me up! I am great for that! I have taken two days to make 140 miles, so rambling along on a dirt road is fine! We built the camper just for this
kind of travel.
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Insurance:
I don't recall any difference in liability insurance btw Baja and Baja Sur. At least, those few times when I bought it through Bajabound and Discover
Baja. Normally they sell short-term coverage for "all Mexico", and sometimes for "North West" which means the entire peninsula of Baja California.
| Quote: Originally posted by VegasNick | | If it {Mulege} doesn't really hold any more value of things like we mentioned so far such as beach views/camping, missions, etc then we may consider
turning west towards Guerro Negro after Bay of LA. |
You are confused.
There is a little old mission in Mulege, restored and well preserved.
There are no views other than the view of the river delta from surrounding hills or from the lighthouse (if the tower is still there after all the
floods and if the road is not washed out as it usually happens).
There is no beach, the town is tucked upstream on the river.
There are camps in town, nice and shady with date palms, but there is no view of any kind on those camps.
There are beaches North of town around P. Chivato, and South of town in Bahia Concepcion.
(IMO, there is no real view on Concepcion beaches either because there is no horizon - all you can see is the bay and mountains 3-4 miles across, like
on some mountain lake. But the water is warm, and beaches are nice - some of them).
[Edited on 4-27-2015 by Alm]
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You can do next trip to Mulege - though I would spend there 1 day at most and headed South to beaches of Concepcion Bay.
Then you take the ferry from Sta Rosalia to Guaymas on the Mainland, less tiresome than driving around. The cost for a car with trailer can be
disastrous though: Tarifas. I can't figure out the cost for a small trailer, but you'll pay 300 bucks or more for a truck+driver alone.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Alm |
You can do next trip to Mulege - though I would spend there 1 day at most and headed South to beaches of Concepcion Bay.
Then you take the ferry from Sta Rosalia to Guaymas on the Mainland, less tiresome than driving around. The cost for a car with trailer can be
disastrous though.
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That sounds like an even better plan. I have no doubt that this will just be the beginning of many trips down that way!
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Baja California (the first Califrornia) is home to 27 missions, founded from 1697 to 1834... several were made of stone and many are still intact and
used today as parish churches. Others are in ruins or have vanished but they give a connection to the past when visited.
I have posted much on the missions here on Baja Nomad and I maintain web pages to inform on the missions: http://vivabaja.com/bajamissions
In 2012, I helped history author Max Kurillo produce the first book that correctly catalogs all 48 California missions in the order they were founded,
with brief history, photos and maps: http://oldmissions.com
All previously published books only deal with missions on one side of a line that didn't exist when the missions were founded and built!
Mission Santa Rosalia de Mulegé, founded in 1705 as the 4th California mission:
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Thank you David! That adds a LOT of help to my trip planning.
I'll post up somewhat of a map this week and let you guys pick it apart. 
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Mulege lighthouse after rain
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Ck out these links
Bahia Conception and off roading near Mulege
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=44194#pid4932...
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=72247#pid8855...
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| Quote: Originally posted by VegasNick | First off, thanks ahead of time to all of you for sharing your knowledge. If I listened to all of my friends, I would never do this trip! I have heard
everything from me being killed to turning my family into cartel sex slaves.
Planning a trip for Thanksgiving week. This will be my first time driving down. Planning on crossing at Mexicali and will have our offroad camper with
us. We want to go to at least the Bay of LA, and hopefully to Mulege if time allows. We will have 10 days to get from Las Vegas and back. I'd like to
do as much off road as possible and be able to mix in some hotel/shower stops every few days. Also looking to beach camp as much as possible.
So a few questions:
I hear one crossing in Mexicali is easier than the other with the camper. Which one? Also, I understand we need to get our FMM stamped at the
crossing. Is this correct?
Is Mulege and back possible in ten days or should we cut off at Bay of LA?
What is the best place along the way for a cool street market?
Thanks again for the advice! |
Too many questions! Just go! Figure it out when you get there.
My first trip we had a map, a surf guide, and lots of ignorance. We had a feeling of exploration. There was no internet, no online mommies to answer
our questions.
If you have too much info, you will not have an adventure.
Quit asking questions, get out of here and just do it!
[Edited on 4-28-2015 by mtgoat666]
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Amazing!!! For once I agree with the goat....Seems as if people have lost their cojones when it comes to do anything that isn't choreographed for
them...Need GPS coordinates to the cheapest taco stand .....Sad state of affairs....
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