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vgabndo
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Since I don't remember the motorcycle racing in Baja having been interrupted by WW I or WWII, which was the case with the actual "birth" of off road
motorcycle racing, I'm going to continue in the belief that the ISDT which began in 1913 and has been run continuously since is where 'motorcycle' off
road racing was born. It took decades for Americans to get good enough to win any of those races. What is true, David, is that Baja off road racing
was born in Baja. But then, we knew that.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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StuckSucks
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Quote: Originally posted by J.P.  | I have lived here 14 years and I admit I probably don't Have a Clue as to how bad it really is but as one small example please explain why a bunch of
drunks in high powered Pre Runners that aren't involved in the race should be allowed to trespass on private property and run the public roads with
complete disregard for public safety. I will admit it can be somewhat amusing to watch some of the locals act out during the frenzy with their
hatchet job trucks.
I am not Anti Race. the group needs to police it's self better or the same thing will happen to them that happened in the High Desert.
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Interesting fantasy world you live in, J.P. What TMW said.
I can't speak for all teams, but I believe the team I work with is representative of other teams in the sport.
Drinking while prerunning? I don't think so. If your team drives expensive prerunners with a multi-million dollar annual racing budget, you act
accordingly.
Disregard to public safety? Our Team Owner has said, repeatedly, that if we see anyone - racers or non-racers, who need help - help them. Medical or
mechanical, it doesn't matter.
Hatchet job trucks? Completing the trifecta J.P., you are once again proving that you have no idea what you're talking about. Our Team's Trophy Truck
cost almost a half million dollars to build. After every race it gets torn down to the frame, then rebuilt. Does this sound like a hatchet job to you?
Non-sequitur: someone once said that man started racing the day they built the second car.
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J.P.
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Your Reading comprehension must not be all that great. When I referred to Hatchet trucks I wasn't Referring to the actual race team trucks but to the
local driving around the streets acting out in their beater truck's.
I know a person that builds Quality Trucks and he is a Class act But don't try to Justify the Jerks that race around DRUNK in some of the Yes Very
expensive pre runners acting like the Low Class Knuckle Dragging Fools they are. i
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norte
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I see...yes while in Mexico, people like to drink in excess. Not a good reason to have a race of any kind.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by norte | I see...yes while in Mexico, people like to drink in excess. Not a good reason to have a race of any kind.
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any kind?
how about a drinking game? anyone up for a game of shots and mumbledy peg?
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TMW
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Goat stick to Off_topic with your blandering BS we don't need a dumbazz jerk like you around here.
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liknbaja127
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TMW, Well put!
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norte
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wow. is this what is meant by "puffing up their chests and fanning their peac-ck feathers"
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mtgoat666
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Yep. Though their feathers are gray, and a bit thin these days. Sorry looking birds.
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bajadogs
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This explains a ton bro. Keep talking.
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David K
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Do you have a clue as what Four Wheeler Magazine was about...? Does "tread lightly" ring a bell? Family camping and back country driving, the right
way, is always encouraged. Four wheel drive reduces damage. It is 2WD vehicles that spin tires, lacking traction, the digs ruts and tears up roads.
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vgabndo
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Do you have a clue as what Four Wheeler Magazine was about...? Does "tread lightly" ring a bell? Family camping and back country driving, the right
way, is always encouraged. Four wheel drive reduces damage. It is 2WD vehicles that spin tires, lacking traction, the digs ruts and tears up roads.
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Forty-four thousand three hundred and twenty posts and you just keep getting funnier!
This image from Fourwheeler.com clearly shows how two wheel drive would have not "treaded lightly" and very likely would have been damaging to the
environment. Good thing these guys are doing back country driving "the right way" and not ripping the crap out of the creek. Notice how they are not
leaving ruts, or tearing up the road. You're a crack up!
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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monoloco
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| Quote: Originally posted by gnukid | | How dangerous is Football? Baseball? Boxing? Horse back riding? Car racing is the number #1 sport of Baja I doubt it is going anywhere soon.
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Those sports aren't dangerous for the spectators like Baja offered racing.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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mtgoat666
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I have not seen trophy trucks treading lightly. Isn't this thread about Baja racing?
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David K
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The insult to me and/or Four Wheeler Magazine was also not about racing. How do you miss that?
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| Quote: Originally posted by monoloco | | Quote: Originally posted by gnukid | | How dangerous is Football? Baseball? Boxing? Horse back riding? Car racing is the number #1 sport of Baja I doubt it is going anywhere soon.
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Those sports aren't dangerous for the spectators like Baja offered racing. |
Spectators choose to spectate, nobody makes them go out there. They also choose to do stupid things like stand in the path of the racers. They
should just stay home.
Living Large in Loreto. Off-grid and happy.
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Bajazly
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They've just brought the game of Frogger to fruition and they are pros.
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That is a mental image that will be hard to squash!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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You have pro off road here.You have clueless off road.You have CFs here.What is CF its control freak. The CFs can rant,but that's all they can do.Will
it stop anyone I know from Off road.Don't think so.
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BajaBreak
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| Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider | | You have pro off road here.You have clueless off road.You have CFs here.What is CF its control freak. The CFs can rant,but that's all they can do.Will
it stop anyone I know from Off road.Don't think so. |
Well said.
As a motorcycle enthusiast who has spent much time around off-road racing, trucks and what have you since childhood, I'd have to agree there are a lot
of knuckleheads down in Baja pitting and pre-running around race time. Fortunately they seem to be a minority, but I avoid riding down there for that
reason. It'd be nice if a happy medium could exist, but many people like to see things suit their agenda.
I like going 'off-road', the environment, animals, helping people, and enjoying myself. Am I a unique snowflake? I'd like to think not in this regard.
I read my father's Four Wheeler magazines as a kid too, but I'm pretty sure that doesn't make me a knuckle dragger.
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